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 Post subject: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:23 am 
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I just have a question about these 2 servers. Before, Venus was the "Let's make this legit" Server. Now a lot of people are talking about Phoenix. I know the Blade uni disbanded on Venus because Foudre moved to Phoenix.

So, is Phoenix any better? Or is it just a Venus clone but a newer server? Venus was ok. But the 'legit' rules made a lot of people v.s. each other and not bots. Anyone in Avalon felt that they were just the most badass person ever, and they'd admit it lol. And if you didn't join a legit guild within a certain time it was like you were a bad guy. Accusations flying and what not. It was basically. Legits that have 'proven' themselves legit over a long time v.s. Legits that haven't been playing super long v.s. Bots. Even if you claimed to be legit, any guild you tried to join would practically make you fill out a survey of questions to prove yourself. That kind of stuff isn't necessary. We're all here to play and if we say we're legit. We should be considered so until proven guilty, not the other way around. And I just want to know if Phoenix is like this as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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funny how u should bring that up. take a look at the two servers carefully. on which server is bots the bitches of legits?

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Chill, he's just saying it wasn't for him he's not putting it down.


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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In before "VENUS IS THE BEST.... VENUSIANS HAY OHH!"


To be honest, the only militant person I remember going to Phoenix was WitchHazel, who is now back on Venus.


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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I just have a question about these 2 servers. Before, Venus was the "Let's make this legit" Server. Now a lot of people are talking about Phoenix. I know the Blade uni disbanded on Venus because Foudre moved to Phoenix.

So, is Phoenix any better? Or is it just a Venus clone but a newer server? Venus was ok. But the 'legit' rules made a lot of people v.s. each other and not bots. Anyone in Avalon felt that they were just the most badass person ever, and they'd admit it lol. And if you didn't join a legit guild within a certain time it was like you were a bad guy. Accusations flying and what not. It was basically. Legits that have 'proven' themselves legit over a long time v.s. Legits that haven't been playing super long v.s. Bots. Even if you claimed to be legit, any guild you tried to join would practically make you fill out a survey of questions to prove yourself. That kind of stuff isn't necessary. We're all here to play and if we say we're legit. We should be considered so until proven guilty, not the other way around. And I just want to know if Phoenix is like this as well.


Only on Venus. if you don't want their rules (Venus) join Phoenix then ^^

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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You just answered your own question. You don't like Venus. So move to Phoenix.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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yep there is a big difference between the legits on venus and on phoenix
Phoenix is a server where the legits dont mind botters. They party with them, they help them lvl up, and they use loaders.
Venus doesnt allow botters here to have fun. We spawn camp them. We dont let them party with us. We dont help them lvl up. We constantly lure mobs/chasers on their plvls. We dont use loaders.
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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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why the fck is this in GD?

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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why the fck is this in GD?


"Silkroad General Discussion

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and because it doesn't have anything to do with just 1 server. So posting in Venus or posting in Phoenix, would be further off course. And the general server forum says nothing about asking questions, its for commuting. That's why, any more dumb questions to raise your post count? No? Ok.

Anyway, I don't necessarily dislike Venus. I was just wondering if Phoenix had become the new legit server or something because it becomes talked about a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Phoenix doesn't have this confederation $hit, the people who left venus for phoenix were most likely thinking "How can we win the war against bots if were being suspected and accused left and right". Just now it seems that the true botters are the ones controlling the confed, i mean nobody can have listened to that recording and believe that NB is suddenly legit. If you didnt hear it bassicaly she said that she always has bot in games and you could easily be under the impression that she was conveying the message that she always will bot aswell. Now ofcourse her current build is a cleric which is impossible to solo bot which is almost part of the cover up, as almost everybody knows (thinks?) she babysits and p lvls her alts.

The Phoenix system is better, join up with other legits have fun trading, and communicating with bots, and if your friends are bots then without this confed shit you can freely go make/join a guild with them without fears that you'll never be able to party with ur legit friends. The venus/confed approach was Nazist/Communist like and thats not the right way to do this.

The legits on Phoenix tollerate botters just dont let them in their guilds, Venus also tollerate botters but only if ur high in management or in Avalon.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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God, all you people make me upset.

I'm one of the few who went to Ares. I have a party almost any time I come on, from people all over the world, from Egypt, to Turkey, to India, to Germany, to France, to Czech Republic, to even North and South America and I just met a Russian today!

I'm lvl 59, I go on and I play when I want, I have a great core party group and alot of people on my friend list instantly go "hey man, whats up, lets play" every time I log in. Yeah, theres bot.. It's silkroad, what can you expect? But I know I play by hand, because.. it's a game!

Who cares what the majority does, the criticism of the militant people on here, the odd ways of the botters.. Its all ON YOU to be able to find a server where you can LOG IN, HAVE FUN and log off knowing you had a great, relaxing time or a buzzed up, intense, rewarding grind or a victorious trade or a crushing robbery of your opponents.....

So if you want to play legit, yeah there are communities out there... but remember, every server there are multitudes of people and cultures who honestly do play legit. We assume everyone bots.. yeah, those same botters also like to play. Some honestly just hand grind because its faster, thought about that?

I had my first PEG party today.. Wow, that was the fastest EXP I have ever gotten. Afterwards, 4/8 of the people went to town, and set up an overnight stall...

It's up to each of us to find our own fun and our own environment. Every server has it, it's just a matter of meeting people, going across language barriers and abandoing the "if your not 100% clean, your evil" attitude.. It might work for venus, but if your having fun and you know yourself your a fair player..

Who CARES?

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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God, all you people make me upset.

I'm one of the few who went to Ares. I have a party almost any time I come on, from people all over the world, from Egypt, to Turkey, to India, to Germany, to France, to Czech Republic, to even North and South America and I just met a Russian today!

I'm lvl 59, I go on and I play when I want, I have a great core party group and alot of people on my friend list instantly go "hey man, whats up, lets play" every time I log in. Yeah, theres bot.. It's silkroad, what can you expect? But I know I play by hand, because.. it's a game!

Who cares what the majority does, the criticism of the militant people on here, the odd ways of the botters.. Its all ON YOU to be able to find a server where you can LOG IN, HAVE FUN and log off knowing you had a great, relaxing time or a buzzed up, intense, rewarding grind or a victorious trade or a crushing robbery of your opponents.....

So if you want to play legit, yeah there are communities out there... but remember, every server there are multitudes of people and cultures who honestly do play legit. We assume everyone bots.. yeah, those same botters also like to play. Some honestly just hand grind because its faster, thought about that?

I had my first PEG party today.. Wow, that was the fastest EXP I have ever gotten. Afterwards, 4/8 of the people went to town, and set up an overnight stall...

It's up to each of us to find our own fun and our own environment. Every server has it, it's just a matter of meeting people, going across language barriers and abandoing the "if your not 100% clean, your evil" attitude.. It might work for venus, but if your having fun and you know yourself your a fair player..

Who CARES?

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Would you like a happy meal with that spaz attack?

Anyway, aside from anger issues, all your post really says to me is that all servers can be fun legit rules or not, and that we should find out ourselves. But, since when is asking not a form of finding out? Yeah, I could make a character on every server, and get to level 50 and see how it worked on each. Or I could save 20 years of my life and just ask and get a simple answer.

P.S. Therapy is efficient.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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In before "VENUS IS THE BEST.... VENUSIANS HAY OHH!"




VENUSIANS UNITE! HAY OHHHHHHHHHH!

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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God, all you people make me upset.

I'm one of the few who went to Ares. I have a party almost any time I come on, from people all over the world, from Egypt, to Turkey, to India, to Germany, to France, to Czech Republic, to even North and South America and I just met a Russian today!

I'm lvl 59, I go on and I play when I want, I have a great core party group and alot of people on my friend list instantly go "hey man, whats up, lets play" every time I log in. Yeah, theres bot.. It's silkroad, what can you expect? But I know I play by hand, because.. it's a game!

Who cares what the majority does, the criticism of the militant people on here, the odd ways of the botters.. Its all ON YOU to be able to find a server where you can LOG IN, HAVE FUN and log off knowing you had a great, relaxing time or a buzzed up, intense, rewarding grind or a victorious trade or a crushing robbery of your opponents.....

So if you want to play legit, yeah there are communities out there... but remember, every server there are multitudes of people and cultures who honestly do play legit. We assume everyone bots.. yeah, those same botters also like to play. Some honestly just hand grind because its faster, thought about that?

I had my first PEG party today.. Wow, that was the fastest EXP I have ever gotten. Afterwards, 4/8 of the people went to town, and set up an overnight stall...

It's up to each of us to find our own fun and our own environment. Every server has it, it's just a matter of meeting people, going across language barriers and abandoing the "if your not 100% clean, your evil" attitude.. It might work for venus, but if your having fun and you know yourself your a fair player..

Who CARES?

*Done*


Would you like a happy meal with that spaz attack?

Anyway, aside from anger issues, all your post really says to me is that all servers can be fun legit rules or not, and that we should find out ourselves. But, since when is asking not a form of finding out? Yeah, I could make a character on every server, and get to level 50 and see how it worked on each. Or I could save 20 years of my life and just ask and get a simple answer.

P.S. Therapy is efficient.


Dude I just got 3 of those double cheese burgers from McDonalds, I feel amazing xD

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Ares, EoS and Gaia are much the same as Phoenix, honest legits who have there own no-bot unions and prefer to party with only legits but dont discriminate or boycott someone just cause they use a bot to lvl overnight/during school. If these servers grew/the legit communites inside them joined together it would easily rival and surpass Venus.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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You, sir, are uninformed and spreading rumors. I don't see any problems with a guild leader asking someone questions before they're allowed to join his/her guild. After all it is the master's guild and he/she can have whatever rules they want. That element is not exclusive to Venus. As for your statements, sir:

  1. Avalon does not control the Confed
  2. Avalon does not control the Confed
  3. Avalon does not control the Confed
  4. Avalon does not control the Confed
  5. Avalon does not control the Confed
  6. One more thing
  7. Avalon does not control the Confed!

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but dont discriminate or boycott someone just cause they use a bot to lvl overnight/during school.


errr.... you're wrong buuuuuuuudy.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Ares, EoS and Gaia are much the same as Phoenix, honest legits who have there own no-bot unions and prefer to party with only legits but dont discriminate or boycott someone just cause they use a bot to lvl overnight/during school.
lol, if you feel you can't compete because you can't play overnight or during school, stop bitching and go find another game.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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You, sir, are uninformed and spreading rumors. I don't see any problems with a guild leader asking someone questions before they're allowed to join his/her guild. After all it is the master's guild and he/she can have whatever rules they want. That element is not exclusive to Venus. As for your statements, sir:

  1. Avalon does not control the Confed
  2. Avalon does not control the Confed
  3. Avalon does not control the Confed
  4. Avalon does not control the Confed
  5. Avalon does not control the Confed
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  7. Avalon does not control the Confed!

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but dont discriminate or boycott someone just cause they use a bot to lvl overnight/during school.


errr.... you're wrong buuuuuuuudy.


1. You can already see that the people on servers other than Venus dont care the slightest bit about wat someone does while not in there pt, all they care is they dont bot while in the pt.

2. While Avalon does not control the Confed, the Confed is manipulated by Avalon solely because they are the FW owners. The confed was founded by the founders of Avalon too

3. IF avalon lose the fortress and fail to get it back, losing it to a bot union and another bot union getting bandit fortress. Venus will eventually fall apart, it is strung together by legits owning the fortress.

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Yeah, I have to say phoenix is on the good way to become the new legit server. We don't mind bots as long as they don't bot in the party. I can't stop them when they're outside the party. We don't accept botters in guilds and use 3rd party programs and that's legit enough for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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nightbloom is a botter

but go to venus to make her life hell :D

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 Post subject: Re: Phoenix v.s. Venus?
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Isn't versus a 1 word? I see 2 dots xD. If you don't like confed go to phoenix if you like it or dont care go to venus. Btw useless topic. Everyone have they're own choice.

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nightbloom is a botter

but go to venus to make her life hell :D

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Just so you know, you sir, are a joke to the Confederation. xD

xxbrentonxx wrote:
1. You can already see that the people on servers other than Venus dont care the slightest bit about wat someone does while not in there pt, all they care is they dont bot while in the pt.

2. While Avalon does not control the Confed, the Confed is manipulated by Avalon solely because they are the FW owners. The confed was founded by the founders of Avalon too

3. IF avalon lose the fortress and fail to get it back, losing it to a bot union and another bot union getting bandit fortress. Venus will eventually fall apart, it is strung together by legits owning the fortress.


1. You can see the bot population is completely over the top on servers other then Venus.
2. Avalon didn't found the Confederation. It was an idea formulated by several people outside of Avalon.
3. The fort has little to do with anything, but I'll give you a gold star for trying.

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lol what else is there to say.

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Spoiler!


1. You can already see that the people on servers other than Venus dont care the slightest bit about wat someone does while not in there pt, all they care is they dont bot while in the pt.

2. While Avalon does not control the Confed, the Confed is manipulated by Avalon solely because they are the FW owners. The confed was founded by the founders of Avalon too

3. IF avalon lose the fortress and fail to get it back, losing it to a bot union and another bot union getting bandit fortress. Venus will eventually fall apart, it is strung together by legits owning the fortress.


  1. Legit guilds like Revanent on Gaia do not allow botters in our guild; so don't generalize. We care what you do outside the party. If you're in a legit guild you better be legit or get ready to receive the boot
  2. I played Venus. Avalon did not found the confederation. I was there before it was created, and after it was created. It was a joint effort by the only two Legit Unions on the server, BHA and Avalon, to consolidate their power into one super union. Now it's controlled by 3 Unions, several independent guilds, and quite a few guild-less independent players. Avalon only has power over their Union and tbh BHA and Avalon don't really get along well. Stop spreading your bullshit.
  3. Fortress isn't really that important. There are no botter guilds strong enough to take it from the Super Union.

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its a joke, along with Foudre

whos Foudre?

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Foudre was the founder of the 4th Legit union on venus, and also the killer of the union 4th union. He is the most undeticated person on sro, were all glad he went to phonix so we don't have to deal with him anymore.

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Foudre was the founder of the 4th Legit union on venus, and also the killer of the union 4th union. He is the most undeticated person on sro, were all glad he went to phonix so we don't have to deal with him anymore.


*Raises hand* Don't type for me. Foudre was and still is awesome.

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