thing is have you guys ACTUALLY tried a 1:2? i know i have and in pve killed up to 5 lvls above me no problem and in pvp could kill ints in a few hits and tank glaviers long enough to kill them.
Yeh i have tried 1:2 many times, though it wasn't very high so pvp kinda sucked. And lady any build can kill mobs 5 lvls higher if you play em right. Pvp depends more on gear.
@Strwarrior; i meant using nukes in pvp as a 1:2 won't be much help because the damage isn't very good for the long amount of time it takes to cast your nuke; phy skills would do the job better.
watch the video.. any ways.. that guy was able to do 10k with flame wave wide.. that was at 80 cap.. and i think thats VERY good
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evilpeta wrote:
str bow (ecsro): str bow (isro): str glaive/bow dual (isro): str glaive (ecsro): int s/s (isro/ecsro): int s/s hybrid (ecsro): int s/s and spear hybrid (ecsro): 1:2 hybrid spear (isro):
no hybrid strs on the list i see. dont even try to say hybrid str sucks because my build will prove you wrong every time.
who said hybrid str sucks i got 2 chars hybrid str and both 7x and 8x .. and actually its great
i do have experience, i actually tried the build up to 67, you just watched a video and act all cool about it. most of the parts in that video were 2v1 even 3v1+ in favor, and most of the 1v1s were close calls (he almost died) especially vs de various glaivers. it was pretty pathetic imo. since, when making a video, a person takes the best scenes. i can see how that guy has trouble tanking just by watching the video. additionally, most of the 1v1 in capes were fkin retarded fights, most of the time the opponent was slashing or lagging, or random 1hits. out of those 8 minutes of edited video, i wouldn't be surprised if a good 35 minutes were taken out due to deaths and gangbang, lol. and of course, you said it, it's ISRO. he has SNOW SHIELD, making it a completely different build. without snowshield this build is bound to suck. period.
i do have experience, i actually tried the build up to 67, you just watched a video and act all cool about it. most of the parts in that video were 2v1 even 3v1+ in favor, and most of the 1v1s were close calls (he almost died) especially vs de various glaivers. it was pretty pathetic imo. since, when making a video, a person takes the best scenes. i can see how that guy has trouble tanking just by watching the video. additionally, most of the 1v1 in capes were fkin retarded fights, most of the time the opponent was slashing or lagging, or random 1hits. out of those 8 minutes of edited video, i wouldn't be surprised if a good 35 minutes were taken out due to deaths and gangbang, lol. and of course, you said it, it's ISRO. he has SNOW SHIELD, making it a completely different build. without snowshield this build is bound to suck. period.
when i said its isro i was talking about the flame wave wide dmg .. that should be same as psro
u kept talking about the video if u really say that u have experience in the build and u really tried it .. so tell us whats wrong with it?
every build got some weakness points .. and that almost dead thing... every one may have some times like that.
i do have experience, i actually tried the build up to 67, you just watched a video and act all cool about it. most of the parts in that video were 2v1 even 3v1+ in favor, and most of the 1v1s were close calls (he almost died) especially vs de various glaivers. it was pretty pathetic imo. since, when making a video, a person takes the best scenes. i can see how that guy has trouble tanking just by watching the video. additionally, most of the 1v1 in capes were fkin retarded fights, most of the time the opponent was slashing or lagging, or random 1hits. out of those 8 minutes of edited video, i wouldn't be surprised if a good 35 minutes were taken out due to deaths and gangbang, lol. and of course, you said it, it's ISRO. he has SNOW SHIELD, making it a completely different build. without snowshield this build is bound to suck. period.
when i said its isro i was talking about the flame wave wide dmg .. that should be same as psro
u kept talking about the video if u really say that u have experience in the build and u really tried it .. so tell us whats wrong with it?
every build got some weakness points .. and that almost dead thing... every one may have some times like that.
have you read any post in this thread before posting? i've said 1:2 hybrid int spear doesn't have any survivability without snow shield, the lack of snow shield in ecsro makes it a build not even to consider. being 1:2 implies a lot of str in the build, making it WEAK. "1:2 hybrid int spear -> can't hit as strong, can't tank as long." that's what's wrong with it. IF ecsro gets snow shield, this build would also be kinda pointless, since a 1:5 would hit MUCH harder and still be able to tank very well with snow shield. out of all the chinese builds i had the privilege to try, 1:2 hybrid int is the worst of all. most of you will check on youtube videos and tell me i'm wrong. make/play the char, then come here and talk all the shit you want. every char i played gave me that nice feeling of wanting to pvp and own everyone in cape fights after a long grind. with the 1:2 that was rarely the case. that's why i dumped it. if you're good at it, good for you, i'm just saying that i really hate that build. and IMO, there are much better builds to try out in ECSRO.
i do have experience, i actually tried the build up to 67, you just watched a video and act all cool about it. most of the parts in that video were 2v1 even 3v1+ in favor, and most of the 1v1s were close calls (he almost died) especially vs de various glaivers. it was pretty pathetic imo. since, when making a video, a person takes the best scenes. i can see how that guy has trouble tanking just by watching the video. additionally, most of the 1v1 in capes were fkin retarded fights, most of the time the opponent was slashing or lagging, or random 1hits. out of those 8 minutes of edited video, i wouldn't be surprised if a good 35 minutes were taken out due to deaths and gangbang, lol. and of course, you said it, it's ISRO. he has SNOW SHIELD, making it a completely different build. without snowshield this build is bound to suck. period.
when i said its isro i was talking about the flame wave wide dmg .. that should be same as psro
u kept talking about the video if u really say that u have experience in the build and u really tried it .. so tell us whats wrong with it?
every build got some weakness points .. and that almost dead thing... every one may have some times like that.
have you read any post in this thread before posting? i've said 1:2 hybrid int spear doesn't have any survivability without snow shield, the lack of snow shield in ecsro makes it a build not even to consider. being 1:2 implies a lot of str in the build, making it WEAK. "1:2 hybrid int spear -> can't hit as strong, can't tank as long." that's what's wrong with it. IF ecsro gets snow shield, this build would also be kinda pointless, since a 1:5 would hit MUCH harder and still be able to tank very well with snow shield. out of all the chinese builds i had the privilege to try, 1:2 hybrid int is the worst of all. most of you will check on youtube videos and tell me i'm wrong. make/play the char, then come here and talk all the shit you want. every char i played gave me that nice feeling of wanting to pvp and own everyone in cape fights after a long grind. with the 1:2 that was rarely the case. that's why i dumped it. if you're good at it, good for you, i'm just saying that i really hate that build. and IMO, there are much better builds to try out in ECSRO.
1st.. when u said that " will check videos and tell me im wrong" then say that we should go and play..didnt these guys made this char? arnt these guys playing in the video too? lol
2nd.. this build DOESNT NEED a high snow shield.. 40% or 30% would be great because it doesnt have alot mp... and let me tell u some thing.. chinese are meant to be hybrid.. and this build got a good amount of str .. the heu skills in this build would hit good.. and the nukes will be good too. .... and i will show u that.. after im back from the fkn visit i will make one and see... what should i believe videos or words?
videos like that are compilations of good scenes. seeing a compilation of good scenes will make any build look nice. you have now confirmed you HAVEN'T played that build, so it's fair to assume you don't have a clue what you're talking about. if i make a 1:1 hybrid str ice blader and uploaded a 5 minute video of myself pwning some noobs around my lvl, you will go "OMG HYBRID 1:1 BLADER FTW". fail. my intentions are good, you will suffer with this build in ecsro without snow shield. i've experienced that. believe what you want, as of now i've stopped giving a fuck. /leaves thread
videos like that are compilations of good scenes. seeing a compilation of good scenes will make any build look nice. you have now confirmed you HAVEN'T played that build, so it's fair to assume you don't have a clue what you're talking about. if i make a 1:1 hybrid str ice blader and uploaded a 5 minute video of myself pwning some noobs around my lvl, you will go "OMG HYBRID 1:1 BLADER FTW". fail. my intentions are good, you will suffer with this build in ecsro without snow shield. i've experienced that. believe what you want, as of now i've stopped giving a fuck. /leaves thread
thats better... any ways.. who the fk said i played this build? lol .. stop saying somethings u dont know.. or somethings i didnt say.. my best friend had this build i watched him for like 3 months pvping before i left isro and i almost knew everything about that build .. and every 1 i talked to him about that build he said its great .. because i wanted to make one, but didnt make one . so i should say that every one is stupid and u are the only fkn smart guy.. WTF? and i didnt base all my info about that video .. i saw alot friends pvping with that build .. and alot players talked about it.. and i at the end i see some1 like u saying that build is gay.. lol..
1:2 is a great all around build lol but one time i pvped a 1:2 didnt go so well for him because my build is just that good :p
what phy mg balance u have? .. and what lvl are u atm?
im now lvl 77 and i have 95% phy .. doing good.. bladers cant kill me .. and i cant kill them if i dont do 2 good crits in row .. the other builds i can kill them easy
when i faced that 1:2 with my current build i was pure blader at the time was around 90+% phy dont remember the mag %. but ya didnt take me long to kill him more then normal though.
when i faced that 1:2 with my current build i was pure blader at the time was around 90+% phy dont remember the mag %. but ya didnt take me long to kill him more then normal though.
actually i meant in that post my new pure glavier.. the old char.. the bow .. i left it.. i dont play much in it now
I have a 1:2 hybrid spear in iSRO, but abandoned him when the new skills came out
Back at 80 cap it was the ownage, it was 67 before the skills were upgraded and it got nerfed. But before that, it pretty much pwned everyone in PVP, with sos+5 spear and full sos+4/5 gear it was the char i enjoyed most
Don't expect a 1:2 hybrid spear's nukes to be any good in PVP(except maybe as a start skill), it's good in PVE though. This kind of hybrid will make your nukes do about as much damage as a weapon skill (soul spear, ghost spear) but crits will be crazy
IMO it's a lot of fun in PVP, glaivers and bladers will have a hard time on you since you have a ton of HP
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