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Which do you agree with?
Legits ONLY!!! ALL botters are bad and EVIL! 23%  23%  [ 50 ]
Screw all bots, they never talk, ksin wall-humpers. 8%  8%  [ 17 ]
Screw both gold & plyrbots, only rare plyrbots are good. 6%  6%  [ 13 ]
EFFF Gold Bots; Some Plyrbots r ok, they're nice & talk. 45%  45%  [ 99 ]
Botterz RULEZ!!! I PWNZ all with SUNZ! Ban me plx!!! 19%  19%  [ 42 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Question for all those "legits" out there *Poll added*
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:11 pm 
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I would scam somebody, if they were stupid enough to fall for it, I would laugh in their face.

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Wow so you would scam someone if you had the chance huh? Your saying u bot then? Why do people care what others do with their own money?


Everyone can sit here and complain allllll they want but guess what? No one cares what you people think, its a game that everyone plays how they want. So either stop complaining or leave. Simple as that. People arnt going to stop botting just because you complain on a fan forum.


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yea the good thing about here is you can exress your opinion unlike talking to a load of bots that arent even listening to you.

why does scamming make you a botter? i said i would scam a bot but not a legit.. that makes me a bot? huh?

fingers crossed but...
ur opinions expressed here will change if jm starts mass banning bots to the extent sro becomes extict within a few monthes.
i hope it does.

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Why do people care what others do with their own money?

People care when other people's action affects them.. ~,~'

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what kind of legit forum is this!!!ALL BOTS ARE BAD! THE PLAYER BOTS WHO ACT NICE WOULD SCREW YOU OVER IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE YOU BLIND PEOPLE!


Also ur saying that all botters are afk all the time? Sorry but all of my union bots and most of them are on more than any legit i knew when i was on venus.


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im 200% sure that 95+% of all bots would happily scam you if they knew they could get away with it.


I would scam somebody, if they were stupid enough to fall for it, I would laugh in their face.


Agreed with this. Difference between scam and hack. If you don't have common sense enough to not enter your login info into a random site, then you deserve it.

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Everyone can sit here and complain allllll they want but guess what? No one cares what you people think, its a game that everyone plays how they want. So either stop complaining or leave. Simple as that. People arnt going to stop botting just because you complain on a fan forum.


I'm gonna have to agree with this and stop my useless ranting about Joymax being the bad guy. It seems no one cares. And even the people who do care what can they do?. Ranting about Joymax's incompetence/deceitful business practice or about botters seems to be a waste of time. In the end Joymax wins.

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BuDo wrote:
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Everyone can sit here and complain allllll they want but guess what? No one cares what you people think, its a game that everyone plays how they want. So either stop complaining or leave. Simple as that. People arnt going to stop botting just because you complain on a fan forum.


I'm gonna have to agree with this and stop my useless ranting about Joymax being the bad guy. It seems no one cares. And even the people who do care what can they do?. Ranting about Joymax's incompetence/deceitful business practice or about botters seems to be a waste of time. In the end Joymax wins.


Wrong. In the end, the real winners are the people who have stopped playing Silkroad.

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Everyone can sit here and complain allllll they want but guess what? No one cares what you people think, its a game that everyone plays how they want. So either stop complaining or leave. Simple as that. People arnt going to stop botting just because you complain on a fan forum.


I'm gonna have to agree with this and stop my useless ranting about Joymax being the bad guy. It seems no one cares. And even the people who do care what can they do?. Ranting about Joymax's incompetence/deceitful business practice or about botters seems to be a waste of time. In the end Joymax wins.


Wrong. In the end, the real winners are the people who have stopped playing Silkroad.


IMHO, the real winners are the ones having fun with their friends partying (whether online or offline). This game isn't about leveling, it's about socializing. Joymax coded the game to be a grind with the possible intent of keeping us interested (not sure how), and that was a miserable failure.

meh...there are way too many variables to assert one particular position. We can all agree that:

-Joymax's customer service is shoddy
-They are not doing nearly enough in all capacities
1 - not banning enough bots or keeping them away
2 - changing the game so powerlevel is more difficult while still maintaining a party bonus
3 - making quests more interesting (reducing the grind a little)
-as part of the game, we have not done enough to keep the company moving in the direction we wanted

It's not 100% obvious that JM doesn't care, but if you are going to play, I think that the bots are a fact of life. Annoying though...

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How does it affect you?


An individual botter may not have much of an effect on our gaming experience, unless it's grinding next to us, KSing us, etc., but multiply that by hundreds or thousands of bots across all the servers, clogging them up so others who actually want to PLAY the game can't log in?... That's at least one way it affects us.

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I'm gonna have to agree with this and stop my useless ranting about Joymax being the bad guy. It seems no one cares. And even the people who do care what can they do?. Ranting about Joymax's incompetence/deceitful business practice or about botters seems to be a waste of time. In the end Joymax wins.


I don't think it's a complete waste of time. If enough people complain, long enough, Joymax might get hit with a clue stick and do something about the problem.

I still find it interesting that right around the time that SRF started locking down on the botters in the forum, opening up EB, banning bots from the forums, Joymax around the same time started putting out larger 'massive bot ban lists'. I think that's around the time they started with the 30,000+ lists on an almost regular basis. I remember SuicideGrl commenting on that one time noticing the correlation. Maybe the two events were just a coincidence.

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why on earth is this topic still alive


Because I'm being to lenient, and topics like these remind me of the topics we used to see on the forum almost everyday. It appears the sway player bots have over the player-base has grown.

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It's still alive coz someone didn't let it dies. Simple logic :wink:

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People say that no one cares, yet people still care to write. This thread has gone 19 pages too long.

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Also ur saying that all botters are afk all the time? Sorry but all of my union bots and most of them are on more than any legit i knew when i was on venus.

Does "all of your union bots" include you? Do you bot? Even if you don't, why don't you? What's stopping you? Your whole union bots (maybe except you) and you obviously defend them by saying Joymax doesn't care. What if overnight, all the bots were banned (hypothetical) you'll be all alone, I guess that would suck. I would also venture to guess why you would post here to comfort everyone, but you only need to comfort yourself. Is it fear or guilt?


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You people are pathetic, I didnt say I botted so hmmmm accusations without proof? :shock:

This forum has gone to hell since all these new people have started coming in, the ones that did bot didnt advertise their bots. They never even talked about them, they were simply hunted down by idiots who probably bot themselves.

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no one said you are a bot. If anyone join the forum. Mind to read the forum rules first

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Xyzzzy wrote:
why on earth is this topic still alive


Because I'm being to lenient, and topics like these remind me of the topics we used to see on the forum almost everyday. It appears the sway player bots have over the player-base has grown.

ITT: ****, chill Legits, and retired players.


Maybe it has to do with just how bad botting has gotten. Yesterday I logged on and was messing around jangan. A freaking newbie still with his yellow leaf newb symbol walks up to me and asks if I had an sbot account I could share with him. I told him to go grind and enjoy the newbie quests since they were kind of fun. He said his friend told him to play and that you needed a bot to lvl in this game... :banghead:

If it wasn't for my friends popping back after a few months, I prob would've gone to venus, but they keep restarting the game, so I keep going back to the same ole shitty server >_>.

I REALLY want to find a bunch of new players who played other mmos before and make them all play silkroad and see what they think of the game. I mean, the first things you read in this game won't be "go to general whatever for help", it will prob be more like this:

"Welcome to Silkroad, let your dreams begin..."
zxfsd: visit xxxxxxxxxx.com for free powerlvl to 70, 100m for 1$, free bot.
asdf: visit yyyyy.com for ff lvl 100 accounts only $100
123asd2: welcome to zzzz.com best prices for gold and items. get 20% off now.
over and over and over and over..........

Hell they prob can't yell "Help" without it getting lost in the flood of spam.

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You people are pathetic, I didnt say I botted so hmmmm accusations without proof? :shock:

Oh you felt that way? I assumed you were legit, but in a bot union. I even gave you some credit thinking you couldn't possibly be a botter posting on a legit forum, because that would just make you down right stupid. Oh you're not stupid I hope. Care to share why you are still legit? Isn't that the point of this thread, right Goseki?

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I'm done trying to argue with kids that are too immature to listen.

Listen to what? That we should all bot like your union buddies? What the ****, are you serious? That Joymax doesn't care, and we should act out by cheating? Or that we should all just have fun and try to get along, Kum Ba Ya!


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I'm done trying to argue with kids that are too immature to listen.

Welcome to srf.



weren't you banned?

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Welcome to srf.



weren't you banned?


I believe that was Amalie.

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Care to share why you are still legit? Isn't that the point of this thread, right Goseki?


Shiit... is it??? =P

If I could have 1 wep elixir for each time this thread went off topic and back, I might be able to finally make a +9...

I think this thread kind of turned into a mix of "Why are you still legit, Whose fault is it that botting is this bad, Is it morally wrong to cheat in a game, and Why is this topic still here." Threads. :D

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weren't you banned?


I believe that was Amalie.


oh lol

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penfold1992 wrote:
what kind of legit forum is this!!!ALL BOTS ARE BAD! THE PLAYER BOTS WHO ACT NICE WOULD SCREW YOU OVER IF THEY HAD THE CHANCE YOU BLIND PEOPLE!


Also ur saying that all botters are afk all the time? Sorry but all of my union bots and most of them are on more than any legit i knew when i was on venus.


i know ALL my guild and union is legit.
and not all botters bot afk however the only time in intrested in talkin 2 people not on my friends list or union is when im trying to grind with them... otherwise why else would i talk?

im not saying u bot but a bot supporter is just as bad. heck even if they got banned ud probably feel the effects cast on you.

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"Sorry but all of my union bots and most of them are on more than any legit i knew when i was on venus"
that doesnt make sense.. legit is legit. bot is bot.

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what's the point of botting if they don't go afk :?


So you don't have to press 12345 over and over until the buttons on your keyboard spontaneously combust? I know some ppl that talk while their bots are grinding.

Of course you are right, most ppl turn their bots on while they're asleep.

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what's the point of botting if they don't go afk :?


So you don't have to press 12345 over and over until the buttons on your keyboard spontaneously combust? I know some ppl that talk while their bots are grinding.

Of course you are right, most ppl turn their bots on while they're asleep.

Tell me a mmorpg game that you don't need to press 123 key?

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Goseki wrote:
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what's the point of botting if they don't go afk :?


So you don't have to press 12345 over and over until the buttons on your keyboard spontaneously combust? I know some ppl that talk while their bots are grinding.

Of course you are right, most ppl turn their bots on while they're asleep.


I talk to friends in guild/party/all chat WHILE pressing 12345 over and over until the buttons on my keyboard spontaneously combust. :P I've got SKILLS! :D

Actually I like to mix it up. Sometimes I switch to 234 234 234 or 582 582 582. :wink:

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