Looks like bots figured out a way around the Log-In

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

.AWAKE. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 2070 **Location:**

there is no way around the autologin..lol

aznronin · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 1393 **Location:**

Maybe one day the war against the bots will end... or maybe isro should just end...

Sae · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 556 **Location:** lol

aznronin wrote:

Maybe one day the war against the bots will end... or maybe isro should just end...

That'll be on the same day =]

Will · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 60 **Location:**

What if someone were to save a copy of the old client.. And use that instead of the new one?

Amarisa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4049 **Location:** Magic

or the gold bots spamming login with 3 clients per 1 login info?

Swangin · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 64 **Location:**

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

what the hell are you talking about..

.AWAKE. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 2070 **Location:**

Will wrote:

What if someone were to save a copy of the old client.. And use that instead of the new one?

then it would give you an error telling you to update client with launcher , or even if you managed to get to the logins creen would prolly crash as soon as u click connect

Will · **Joined:** Jul 2009 **Posts:** 60 **Location:**

Swangin wrote:

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

what the hell are you talking about..

Most people here obviously know what he is talking about.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:40 am

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

Uhm no, a real legit doesn't use loader. You need at least 15s to restart and fill you id+pw everytime you DC.

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

Uhm no, a real legit doesn't use loader. You need at least 15s to restart and fill you id+pw everytime you DC.

I was referring to the one time JM did something right and had the client not DC after logging and all you needed was a heavy book to log in.

warfire6395 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 552 **Location:**

Goseki wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

Uhm no, a real legit doesn't use loader. You need at least 15s to restart and fill you id+pw everytime you DC.

I was referring to the one time JM did something right and had the client not DC after logging and all you needed was a heavy book to log in.

my client d/ced every time it said server was full, even with no captcha..

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

warfire6395 wrote:

my client d/ced every time it said server was full, even with no captcha..

i never said it lasted very long. it was removed due to being too good for legits soon after the captcha was removed.

warfire6395 · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 552 **Location:**

Goseki wrote:

warfire6395 wrote:

my client d/ced every time it said server was full, even with no captcha..

i never said it lasted very long. it was removed due to being too good for legits soon after the captcha was removed.

thats not what im saying. My client using the previous login system before the autologin, disconnected everytime i got "try again later". why didnt urs?

CrimsonNuker · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 13791 **Location:**

kudos to joymax.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:15 am

If the login check is done client-side, then JM failed again. You only need to patch the CRC check, then you can use an old client to connect

Goseki · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 3452 **Location:**

warfire6395 wrote:

Goseki wrote:

warfire6395 wrote:

my client d/ced every time it said server was full, even with no captcha..

i never said it lasted very long. it was removed due to being too good for legits soon after the captcha was removed.

thats not what im saying. My client using the previous login system before the autologin, disconnected everytime i got "try again later". why didnt urs?

Mine did after JM updated. Everyone was able to log in with a book on the entery key. Although it was only for a glorious week. If you opened the actual client that time, I'm sure you would've noticed it. It did DC sometimes randomly, but most of the time it let you keep trying for quite a few times.

VeniVidiVici · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 920 **Location:** OTL

The PoC system has changed, because with the new login, it gives false PoC's. They fixed it now. And who need PoC anyways since it's queue.

MiKe 51-50 · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1284 **Location:**

I read the "Silkroad Guard" is still not active and is ineffective towards stopping bots.

peex · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 771 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

If the login check is done client-side, then JM failed again. You only need to patch the CRC check, then you can use an old client to connect

this.

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SirSengir · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 184 **Location:**

peex wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

If the login check is done client-side, then JM failed again. You only need to patch the CRC check, then you can use an old client to connect

this.

/thread

I think it was mentioned that it was the login server that send the check back every 20 seconds, which is why anybody who logs in with a client [every commercial bot cept for chinese clientless,] is on par with those using legit clients.

asusi · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 3223 **Location:**

Goseki wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Goseki wrote:

Look at Rev6. The servers are back to the usual 0-3% chance of logging in instead of the previous 30-50% chance. Looks like the bot companies figured out a way to get their goldbots in. Now legits have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec :banghead:

Joymax is doing REALLY well in this war against legits huh... i mean bots. :oops:

Uhm no, a real legit doesn't use loader. You need at least 15s to restart and fill you id+pw everytime you DC.

I was referring to the one time JM did something right and had the client not DC after logging and all you needed was a heavy book to log in.

do you know how laggy and buggy was the server then? you know why?
In past with no-dc login without captcha:

pc1 >
pc2 > server = overload
pc3 >

arround 50~100 requestes to log-in to the server every single second is an genocide for an server, so server has to deny or accept 50 requested in one single second.

with captcha you get Login > fill in letter> full > dc ,, gives server time to handle other requests,

but now the newest system is query system, so think it this way.

Doomsday · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:33 pm

aznronin wrote:

Maybe one day the war against the bots will end... or maybe isro should just end...

Amen.

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:04 pm

"arround 50~100 requestes to log-in to the server every single second is an genocide for an server, so server has to deny or accept 50 requested in one single second."
Login server =/= to game server. Login attempts wouldn’t lag the game. The game lagged cause it was/is shit.

"Mine did after JM updated. Everyone was able to log in with a book on the entery key. Although it was only for a glorious week. If you opened the actual client that time, I'm sure you would've noticed it. It did DC sometimes randomly, but most of the time it let you keep trying for quite a few times."

I must have missed this, cause after 2-3 tries the client would d/c.

hsihthuwko22 · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 90 **Location:** USA

Yes you did miss it.

It didn't dc right you right after server full or even when you restarted the game. It went to chars selection not to log on window again. It was like very very old times of sro when it came out. But, then again JM didn't want people to be lazy and comfortable with their game, so they 'fixed' it next day with a few server checks.

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:45 pm

hsihthuwko22 wrote:

Yes you did miss it.

It didn't dc right you right after server full or even when you restarted the game. It went to chars selection not to log on window again. It was like very very old times of sro when it came out. But, then again JM didn't want people to be lazy and comfortable with their game, so they 'fixed' it next day with a few server checks.

i didnt miss the old days of the no-dcing for hours at a time. this was when youd get the captcha after so long, and still dc, i wanted to stab something. but he wasnt talking about a long time ago, he meant the recent updates.

hsihthuwko22 · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 90 **Location:** USA

CeLL wrote:

hsihthuwko22 wrote:

Yes you did miss it.

It didn't dc right you right after server full or even when you restarted the game. It went to chars selection not to log on window again. It was like very very old times of sro when it came out. But, then again JM didn't want people to be lazy and comfortable with their game, so they 'fixed' it next day with a few server checks.

i didnt miss the old days of the no-dcing for hours at a time. this was when youd get the captcha after so long, and still dc, i wanted to stab something. but he wasnt talking about a long time ago, he meant the recent updates.

oh ok, I need to go to sleep then. I couldn't read properly:P

HawaiianMix · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 786 **Location:**

Quote:

Now NON-PREMIUM BOTTERS have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec

Fixed. Let's get real. ( Not attacking you )

C1ockwork · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:03 pm

HawaiianMix wrote:

Quote:

Now NON-PREMIUM BOTTERS have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec

Fixed. Let's get real. ( Not attacking you )

actually more like 20 times a second if your pro enough

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:10 pm

C1ockwork wrote:

HawaiianMix wrote:

Quote:

Now NON-PREMIUM BOTTERS have to fight server traffic at a 20-sec per try rate instead of 3-sec

Fixed. Let's get real. ( Not attacking you )

actually more like 20 times a second if you use cheat engine

possibly fixed???

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