Ramadan

JuelzSantana · **Joined:** Apr 2009 **Posts:** 720 **Location:**

GlennNL22 wrote:

Jeez, you made me shed some tears Juelz, the story about your sister.
So moving. I can relate it to my own grandma whom I lost to cancer.

OnT: Goodluck to all the muslims with the Ramadan.

ty man for your sympathy

Puma60 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:17 pm

JuelzSantana's story really does beg the question, if God is so great, why doesn't he prevent terrorism, poverty, war, selfishness, greed? Why would he want to make his 'children' suffer like that?

PhoenixRider · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 740 **Location:**

How the hell did such a thread get this messed up?

Puma60 wrote:

JuelzSantana's story really does beg the question, if God is so great, why doesn't he prevent terrorism, poverty, war, selfishness, greed? Why would he want to make his 'children' suffer like that?

We have choices and options as humans to help our fellow man. We are judged on what we do and if we do it. People are in poverty not because of god but because we ignore them. War is committed not because of god but because of the corrupted war mongers that we let take power. Blaming all the worlds problems on god is a half assed thing to do.

cpinney · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:10 pm

well look at this, everything went better then expected.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:14 pm

you guys aren't gonna clean this up...?

DumboDii · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 2961 **Location:** Finland

Noooooo don't clean this! It's entertaining to read others opinnions about these things. No matter how much sense they make.

DonBebek · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 433 **Location:**

DumboDii wrote:

+ infinity

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Juelz, as its already said, god gave u ur sis. thats her destiny, its something u cant play with. and u cant change it.
if u have faith,u would understand that.. and u shouldn't call ur self Muslim, while u dont have any faith.

Puma60 wrote:

JuelzSantana's story really does beg the question, if God is so great, why doesn't he prevent terrorism, poverty, war, selfishness, greed? Why would he want to make his 'children' suffer like that?

all of that.. people have there choices to do w/e, god didnt make earth for war, and he didnt put us here for war, its choices some people chose, they come and they die, their ideas may still and maybe it dies, its up to people what they choose.. u are not forced to choose something.. its up to YOU, u do it , and live with results.

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

Puma60 wrote:

JuelzSantana's story really does beg the question, if God is so great, why doesn't he prevent terrorism, poverty, war, selfishness, greed? Why would he want to make his 'children' suffer like that?

Well you need to understand that an omnipotent god does not necessarily mean he or she is MEANT to protect us. It all simply means that he or she is our "creator." You people must not confuse religion, and the belief in a higher being. Religion does a whole lot of mess of things. On another note, nobody could be to "sure" if a god exists or not.

I like this quote by Stephanus.

Quote:

Also...
Still, he isnt evil or good, he/she is just a god. He does what he/she wants to do. Either we accept that or not. You cant change the way of life.
You can accept it.
If there is a god...

DumboDii · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 2961 **Location:** Finland

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

Quote:

Also...
Still, he isnt evil or good, he/she is just a god. He does what he/she wants to do. Either we accept that or not. You cant change the way of life.
You can accept it.
If there is a god...

+1

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

Me.

And my bad, have a good Ramadan.

Melez · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:21 pm

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

What does it have to do with Ramadan? Stay on topic

DumboDii · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 2961 **Location:** Finland

Melez wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

What does it have to do with Ramadan? Stay on topic

Like I'm the only one going off topic.

I asked becouse of so many "God created us" statements.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

that thing proofs are very very very unbelieveable, i would believe that a god created us.. why i wont believe in evolution? because in our "holy book" (as most of u call it) there are somethings that science didnt discover it till now.. and its in that book from 1400 years.. i wont really believe in that "evolution"

thats offT , but i had to reply

DonBebek · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 433 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

that thing proofs are very very very unbelieveable, i would believe that a god created us.. why i wont believe in evolution? because in our "holy book" (as most of u call it) there are somethings that science didnt discover it till now.. and its in that book from 1400 years.. i wont really believe in that "evolution"

thats offT , but i had to reply

Wow that's really interesting, can you name a few

DumboDii · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 2961 **Location:** Finland

Strwarrior wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

that thing proofs are very very very unbelieveable, i would believe that a god created us.. why i wont believe in evolution? because in our "holy book" (as most of u call it) there are somethings that science didnt discover it till now.. and its in that book from 1400 years.. i wont really believe in that "evolution"

thats offT , but i had to reply

*Trying to resist the temptation of starting huge argument*

Goobronicus · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1011 **Location:**

DumboDii wrote:

Melez wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

What does it have to do with Ramadan? Stay on topic

Like I'm the only one going off topic.

I asked becouse of so many "God created us" statements.

I think most of the ones (me included) that believe in evolution, are cautious enough to stay away from a topic full of very religious people (whom don't want to hear anything contrary to what they believe)

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

that thing proofs are very very very unbelieveable, i would believe that a god created us.. why i wont believe in evolution? because in our "holy book" (as most of u call it) there are somethings that science didnt discover it till now.. and its in that book from 1400 years.. i wont really believe in that "evolution"

thats offT , but i had to reply

I'm interested to, if these things can really derail Evolution.

DumboDii wrote:

*Trying to resist the temptation of starting huge argument*

No me wants argument.

Melez · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:37 pm

John_Doe wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

*Trying to resist the temptation of starting huge argument*

No me wants argument.

If it starts it will be as futile and uninformative as all of his other posts.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

DonBebek wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

that thing proofs are very very very unbelieveable, i would believe that a god created us.. why i wont believe in evolution? because in our "holy book" (as most of u call it) there are somethings that science didnt discover it till now.. and its in that book from 1400 years.. i wont really believe in that "evolution"

thats offT , but i had to reply

Wow that's really interesting, can you name a few

Sure m8...
i actually didnt search alot, but gonna post those few..

"Stupid google translator doesnt translate well"

so let me tell u, god said in our book something like "built the sky and making it bigger" << (translation sucks)

and this in 1929 the the two scientists "hemson" and "habel" confirmed the Theory of the expansion of the universe , that guy called habel (or w/e) made a rule and its known by his name that galaxies are getting away from each other by time.. and habel called "Einstein" from Germany to America to show him how its getting away from each other..
(i know translation sucks.. but google translator is super stupid >.> )

and also, there is in the book.. something about how the baby is "made" and it says some thing like "make the bones then the meat" , and science didnt discover it only lately..

and this.. "Isthmus of marine" , its written in the book, i just read it

"Recent images taken of the sea has proved that the sea floor is not uniform composition .. It is different in temperature, salinity and density and the proportion of oxygen ..

In the satellite image was taken .. The back side of each color of the sea is different from the other .. Some are dark blue and some black and some yellow .. This is due to different temperatures in each of the other .. This picture was taken and the thermal characteristic satellite is the same space "
well, if any1 can translate better than me, it would be great.. i cant translate well >_<
i know alot will say, THIS IS FAKE, but its not fake, go read it.. if u dont believe me, i just cant translate well as i said, and google translator really not helping me, if u find this fake? then tell me what is real, i really have long time to laugh
**** google translator

Ashikiheyun · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1821 **Location:** CMA

Good luck to all the Muslim SRFers on your fast

I envy your dedication, it takes a lot to do that.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

That really didn't make much sense Strwarrior..

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Azilius wrote:

That really didn't make much sense Strwarrior..

so? i know it wont make sense for alot, because they dont even give their heads a chance to believe.

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

Sure m8...
i actually didnt search alot, but gonna post those few..

"Stupid google translator doesnt translate well"

so let me tell u, god said in our book something like "built the sky and making it bigger" << (translation sucks)

and this in 1929 the the two scientists "hemson" and "habel" confirmed the Theory of the expansion of the universe , that guy called habel (or w/e) made a rule and its known by his name that galaxies are getting away from each other by time.. and habel called "Einstein" from Germany to America to show him how its getting away from each other..
(i know translation sucks.. but google translator is super stupid >.> )

and also, there is in the book.. something about how the baby is "made" and it says some thing like "make the bones then the meat" , and science didnt discover it only lately..

and this.. "Isthmus of marine" , its written in the book, i just read it

"Recent images taken of the sea has proved that the sea floor is not uniform composition .. It is different in temperature, salinity and density and the proportion of oxygen ..

In the satellite image was taken .. The back side of each color of the sea is different from the other .. Some are dark blue and some black and some yellow .. This is due to different temperatures in each of the other .. This picture was taken and the thermal characteristic satellite is the same space "
well, if any1 can translate better than me, it would be great.. i cant translate well >_<
i know alot will say, THIS IS FAKE, but its not fake, go read it.. if u dont believe me, i just cant translate well as i said, and google translator really not helping me, if u find this fake? then tell me what is real, i really have long time to laugh [b]Why you translate it? If you can read it shouldn't be a problem for you to translate it. [/b]
**** google translator

And which holy book is this one? It doesn't make sense cause your not explaining it better. Anyway when something we know is mention in the Bible/ other holy book it is never in the same context that we mention it.

Ashikiheyun · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1821 **Location:** CMA

Strwarrior wrote:

Azilius wrote:

That really didn't make much sense Strwarrior..

so? i know it wont make sense for alot, because they dont even give their heads a chance to believe.

No it's not that, well partially, but also, because as you pointed out, the translation is barely readable. The whole message was "lost in translation."

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

i really really know that translation is bad, and im sorry for that.. i couldnt translate it well, because it says something that i dont really know what its exactly in english, and google translate is stupid, so i couldnt make it readable or even understandable.. but if u try to read a small, u may understand a point or two

@John_Doe , there is only one... we dont have tons of "holy books" , its 1 only.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

I believe in evolution, but I also respect other people's beliefs, unlike some people here :roll:

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:23 pm

those aren't prophecies and they didn't get anything right. People back then didn't know anything about how a fetus formed or about stem cells or about all the different oceans. Whatever they wrote down in that book was an archaic belief that may or may not have happened that they stole from other religions and teachings anyway. You assume that because it was written in the books they were the first people to conceive these ideas but you are wrong, none of the Abrahamic books are original content.

Traditionally it was believed that all things were made up of Earth, Water, Fire, and Air. Today that easily translates into the states of matter. Solid, Liquid, Plasma, and Gas that we know all matter takes. Does this mean those guys knew what they were talking about. No it does not. You can't claim they have knowledge or prophesied something they didn't even understand. They may have said things and after translations and interpretations those things could be seen as modern facts but that does not mean they were right because none of them could prove or had any idea of what they were babbling about. Its the same as the Greeks and their elemental theory.

John_Doe · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2094 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

i really really know that translation is bad, and im sorry for that.. i couldnt translate it well, because it says something that i dont really know what its exactly in english, and google translate is stupid, so i couldnt make it readable or even understandable.. but if u try to read a small, u may understand a point or two

@John_Doe , there is only one... we dont have tons of "holy books" , its 1 only.

You mean the muslim's holy book? Well when you said holy book I just didn't know cause there are alot of holy books. And if your just trying to prove your points with one random sentence from your Holy Book and comparing it to something similar from science don't try its already been tryed and shot done by many.

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

DumboDii wrote:

So no-one in here believes in evolution?

I believe in evolution, but I also respect other people's beliefs, unlike some people here :roll:

There's a difference between beliefs and religion.

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