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 Post subject: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:35 am 
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Well Hello! - Long time no speak ^^

Todaii was a bad bad day for myself, a really close friends decided enough is enough with Silkroad and left. I was amazed, he had just farmed him a nice new char and levelled to 95, with 360k SP Leftover. - FF 100.

He said he has completely quit and handed me his character, ofcourse i said yes and told him anytime you return its your!.

Down to business;

I got a level 95 Hyrbid Blader. - I first thought oh Sh*T this is bad.. a hybrid, its not a little hybrid, its HEAVY hybrid. First off, i dont know how many STR/INT it is. Below is a screenshot showing you!

95 Fire
95 Bicheon
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20 Cold

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Now i have no idea what the heck im doing with this, i have a 94+5 blade and my damage is suprising good, without premium. (Devil only - Stats is without devil)
I nuke a level 95 Warrior/Cleric without a shield for 9.5k - 10k with a 94+5 blade. The only nuker maxed is Flame Wave Wide which is 18 "Max".

Im confused, i have the SP to add fire nukes, becuase overall the damage isnt too bad so it isnt a half bad idea. Im thinking is blade the best option? - Maybe i have a 94+5 Sword too for nukeing then blade for knockdowns + stabs. Or is one weapon best overall?

Then im stuck for 95-100. What should i add the stats too. Also, i have only 20 cold. Maybe since im so hybrid lowering Light is good for a higher snow, then i loose my magical from light.. its such as confusing build im completely stuck and need your help.

Plesae help me! - Btw, i posted her because Builds section is dead, and replies take 2/3x longer. <<And I moved it back because I completely disagree with you. - Ru>>

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:53 am 
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Hmmm First off Get rid of the Blade and start using a sword
and Stop tryin to nuke its to much of a hybrid for that use Bich skills only you should pack quite a punch with your KD's and Stabs get some statuses on them and they are dead in no time
about lowering light you could be right maybe go down to 70/30 or something like that really depends on gear your kinda gonna have to figur that one out byyourself hybrids generaly require allot more tweaking to there build so

Just my opnion :) ~Dutch

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:56 am 
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_Dutchy_ wrote:
Hmmm First off Get rid of the Blade and start using a sword
and Stop tryin to nuke its to much of a hybrid for that use Bich skills only you should pack quite a punch with your KD's and Stabs get some statuses on them and they are dead in no time
about lowering light you could be right maybe go down to 70/30 or something like that really depends on gear your kinda gonna have to figur that one out byyourself hybrids generaly require allot more tweaking to there build so

Just my opnion :) ~Dutch


Thanks for your thoughts.

But, my nuke is as much as my knockdowns with this blade O.o - So if i maybe have a blade and sword and switch betweem nukes / bicheon skills. As you said, this "tweak" may be a good thing. I still need some other guys, as this is so far out of my depth im so uneasy with it ^^.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:04 am 
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TheSlink wrote:
_Dutchy_ wrote:
Hmmm First off Get rid of the Blade and start using a sword
and Stop tryin to nuke its to much of a hybrid for that use Bich skills only you should pack quite a punch with your KD's and Stabs get some statuses on them and they are dead in no time
about lowering light you could be right maybe go down to 70/30 or something like that really depends on gear your kinda gonna have to figur that one out byyourself hybrids generaly require allot more tweaking to there build so

Just my opnion :) ~Dutch


Thanks for your thoughts.

But, my nuke is as much as my knockdowns with this blade O.o - So if i maybe have a blade and sword and switch betweem nukes / bicheon skills. As you said, this "tweak" may be a good thing. I still need some other guys, as this is so far out of my depth im so uneasy with it ^^.

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You might get about the Same damage . but your forgeting the follow up Damage of the Stabs not to mention the advantage of your enemy being knocked down further more i believe i don't know this for sure but i believe KnockDowns are WAY faster then Nukes ( really don't know for sure been a while since i was on a nuker )

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
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Unless that's without gear ignore the char. 18.7k hp as a str hybrid at 95? You're farked.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:35 am 
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pretty goddamn gimp, you could always switch from blader to bower, as they are commonly refereed to as a "hybrid class".

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:03 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
Unless that's without gear ignore the char. 18.7k hp as a str hybrid at 95? You're farked.


Yes that is naked. Thanks for your pathetic +1 post.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:16 am 
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TheSlink wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Unless that's without gear ignore the char. 18.7k hp as a str hybrid at 95? You're farked.


Yes that is naked. Thanks for your pathetic +1 post.


+1 post? I'm just saying that char sucked if that was with gear. But since it's naked I guess you can make something out of it. Keep your blade though, sword won't do you any good.

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
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No Answers. - Bump

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103 Pacheon ~ FF 102
102 Bicheon ~ FF 102
103 Fire ~ FF 103

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:15 pm 
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I just had another idea.

What about switching it to a Spear (Heaksal) X_x More damage from the spear, might be another options.

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103 Pacheon ~ FF 102
102 Bicheon ~ FF 102
103 Fire ~ FF 103

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:49 pm 
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would do loads of damage and have some more hp.

but as such a hybrid either cold goes up or your overall equipment "+" has to.

the 80% phys definitely looks like a 2:1 str build so ice could definitely go up to 60 for 40% snow.

either fire/heuk 100 ice x light y
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fire/ice/bow 100 // light/ice/bow 100

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
would do loads of damage and have some more hp.

but as such a hybrid either cold goes up or your overall equipment "+" has to.

the 80% phys definitely looks like a 2:1 str build so ice could definitely go up to 60 for 40% snow.

either fire/heuk 100 ice x light y
or
fire/ice/bow 100 // light/ice/bow 100


This sounds like what i will do.
So, how about;
100 Heak - 100 Fire - 60 Cold - 40 Light
100 Heak - 100 Fire - 80 Cold - 20 Light
100 Heak - 100 Fie - 68 Cold - 32 Light

Any other options, now for sure i shall take Spear then, Up the cold. Im also using Protector pan, so PHY is high from that already, then i got magical from spear skill too.

How about that? - Can you suggest an exact build?

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Current Level: 103 ~ 54,45%

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103 Pacheon ~ FF 102
102 Bicheon ~ FF 102
103 Fire ~ FF 103

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Confusion!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:30 am 
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TheSlink wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
would do loads of damage and have some more hp.

but as such a hybrid either cold goes up or your overall equipment "+" has to.

the 80% phys definitely looks like a 2:1 str build so ice could definitely go up to 60 for 40% snow.

either fire/heuk 100 ice x light y
or
fire/ice/bow 100 // light/ice/bow 100


This sounds like what i will do.
So, how about;
100 Heak - 100 Fire - 60 Cold - 40 Light
100 Heak - 100 Fire - 80 Cold - 20 Light
100 Heak - 100 Fie - 68 Cold - 32 Light

Any other options, now for sure i shall take Spear then, Up the cold. Im also using Protector pan, so PHY is high from that already, then i got magical from spear skill too.

How about that? - Can you suggest an exact build?


Kinda hard to decide this kinda build without having your full final set ready but i probaly would go 100 fire 60 light 40 cold but really this kind of build would have to be tweaked by yourself throug pvping experience pve experience you'll need to tweak the light and cold to were its perfect for that build

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