Do you believe in fate..?

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:44 pm

CeLL wrote:

0l3n wrote:

CeLL wrote:

your thinking is flawed.

Like always.

You see silo. This post would not have existed without my post. But it was not forced, it was caused. :sohappy:

edit: i forgot too.

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:46 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

CeLL wrote:

0l3n wrote:

Like always.

You see silo. This post would not have existed without my post. But it was not forced, it was caused. :sohappy:

edit: i forgot too.

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

nope

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

fate for me means if you are fat, you will be fat forever, or if you are stupid, you'll be stupid forever. i dont believe that, I think if you work hard enough, you can change anything. there is no pre-determined path, its the choices you make (like twilliger said)

It doesn't need to be like it from the beginning. Fate can be that u are fat and then fate makes u a choice and u start to work out and get slim. That is, if fate exists.
And there is no way to prove if faith excists or not. There are some things that we don't need to know. :roll:

EvGa · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 2612 **Location:** Texas

NuclearSilo wrote:

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

Can we ban the troll? He's repeated this same post about 10 times in two different threads...

Quote:

The key idea here is that determinism doesn’t imply that a person’s actions are fixed by themselves but are fixed with respect to the state of the entire universe; there is still cause and effect in a deterministic universe.

CeLL · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:33 pm

EvGa wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

Can we ban the troll? He's repeated this same post about 10 times in two different threads...

Quote:

The key idea here is that determinism doesn’t imply that a person’s actions are fixed by themselves but are fixed with respect to the state of the entire universe; there is still cause and effect in a deterministic universe.

whats the book you were reading again that had info on determinism?

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:42 pm

Whether actions are fixed by themselves or are fixed with respect to the state of the entire universe, events are predetermined within the universe, thus the idea of fate. You can't change it, you can't control it.

SwordCloud · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:54 pm

Universe decide of something?Dam this shit is dam strong :banghead:

EvGa · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 2612 **Location:** Texas

CeLL wrote:

EvGa wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

Can we ban the troll? He's repeated this same post about 10 times in two different threads...

Quote:

The key idea here is that determinism doesn’t imply that a person’s actions are fixed by themselves but are fixed with respect to the state of the entire universe; there is still cause and effect in a deterministic universe.

whats the book you were reading again that had info on determinism?

Nothing at the moment. I mentioned Quantum Enigma in another thread, but it only lightly touches on it from what I can tell (halfway done, haven't had the time to read it lately). Everything else I've just learned from reading other forums and articles online. I do want to find a book to read strictly on determinism, just haven't looked into it yet.

Stress · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:51 pm

trolls in this thread.

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

EvGa wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

Can we ban the troll? He's repeated this same post about 10 times in two different threads...

I feel like blackfox hacked his account and is posting garbage. Cause I don't remember NS being an asshat the whole time.

0l3n · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:37 pm

Jstar1 wrote:

EvGa wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

Uhm, no, because some atoms see that you made a post, so it fight with other atoms to decide if someone's gonna answer to your post or not. Since the trajectory of an atom can be calculated in advance, if some atoms are supposed to fly this way, then they will fly this way, no matter what. Since every event is decided in advance, you don't choose, you are forced :sohappy:

Can we ban the troll? He's repeated this same post about 10 times in two different threads...

I feel like blackfox hacked his account and is posting garbage. Cause I don't remember NS being an asshat the whole time.

Guess this thread farked him/her/it up good this time.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:45 pm

tss, cause/effect guys, I didn't mean it :rant:

Mirosuke · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:15 pm

lol nao this is a new whole level.

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

Has anyone quoted Terminator yet?

Quote:

"No Fate but what we make"

Pinoy_Archer · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 937 **Location:** Home

this thread reminds me of a group of people discussing "The meaning of life"...

EvGa · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 2612 **Location:** Texas

Pinoy_Archer wrote:

this thread reminds me of a group of people discussing "The meaning of life"...

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TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

i believe in sexy korean girls

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

TOloseGT wrote:

i believe in sexy korean girls

do you also believe in the spaghetti monster :shock:

?

CeLL · **Posted:** Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:52 pm

UnbeatableDevil wrote:

TOloseGT wrote:

i believe in sexy korean girls

do you also believe in the spaghetti monster :shock:

?

only if it flies.

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