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 Post subject: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:44 pm 
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So yesterday, i was getting powerlvled. payed a rando 10mill for all night,

so a gm pm's me saying im promoting illigal programs, i wondered how come i could do such a thing just being in a party, now i've got blocked until 18 may 2010, and i've just bought prem 4 days ago, i think its way to ridcilous when i didten't do anything.

How do i contact them? and also wanna know how to chargeback, because im thinking hard about it,


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:51 pm 
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you was getting plvled by a bot. :palm:

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Location: SHEEKA JOOM BA BOOM BAH!! BAM! BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is awesome. I know they were DC'ing obvious bot parties, but now they are banning the participants too. That’s great.
Enough people pay this guy, he either sells the gold and gets more bot time or give the gold to someone for bot time. Either way yes you are contributing. Nice.

and you cant charge back, you get banned for a few days, they decide they wont give you your money back, then they unbanned you end of story.

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Well the guy who pvled me got dced 20 minutes before the gm pmed me, i just think its ridiclous since i just bought prem, and gonna loose alot of time on it, wich mean lvls. they are breaking their own policy and im contacting a laywer. great idea or just stupid?

just pisses me off -.-


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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how are they breaking their own policy, please quote the portion they are breaking?

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Well, answer me, how can they allow them to ban someone that has nothing to do with it at all? i did nothing wrong. as first he wasen't botting the guy who plvled me, and when i got back he had writting goodnight, and then a gm started spamming me, telling me last warning etc. so i've logged off and now im blocked. way to go gaymax


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Well, answer me, how can they allow them to ban someone that has nothing to do with it at all? i did nothing wrong. as first he wasen't botting the guy who plvled me, and when i got back he had writting goodnight, and then a gm started spamming me, telling me last warning etc. so i've logged off and now im blocked. way to go gaymax


You didn't purchase enough silks, thats the problem. Maybe if you told him I purchased silks, he would have let you go. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:18 pm 
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Maybe, yes. speaking with paypal right now, they will allow me to chargeback all my money i spent at silk. either way i'm done with that shit company


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OMG you so deserved that. HAHA!

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It's about time they ban people for bot powerlevel. Learn to play loser. It' no more complicated than pushing 1,2,3,4.


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:21 pm 
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Hello there troll. you haven't lost ur virginity yet i see


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Coming from a guy that can't play an overly simplistic MMO without cheating, that is cute.

Oh wait, Im not done pointing and laughing at your misfortune.

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Maybe, yes. speaking with paypal right now, they will allow me to chargeback all my money i spent at silk. either way i'm done with that shit company


you wont get your money. they just ban your account (JM ofc, not paypal) if you try to charge back, thats all.


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Calling the us airforce asking them to throw a-bomb over joymax

Request accepted. waiting on the firework now


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Calling the us airforce asking them to throw a-bomb over joymax

Request accepted. waiting on the firework now


*Opens the news waiting for the headlines* 8) :D

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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My morning is better for having read this thread. Thank you so much. If it gets worse, like when your chargeback is denied and your char is permabanned, can you post here again?


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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My morning is better for having read this thread. Thank you so much. If it gets worse, like when your chargeback is denied and your char is permabanned, can you post here again?


Dude what's wrong with you? I don't see he has done anything to you by any means.....

And, the community of the game is decreasing day by day, I guess that's what makes your morning? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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majincooler, i dont care about the virgin that acts cool, so let him say what he want i'd just laugh more and more


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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majincooler wrote:
Balderdash wrote:
My morning is better for having read this thread. Thank you so much. If it gets worse, like when your chargeback is denied and your char is permabanned, can you post here again?


Dude what's wrong with you? I don't see he has done anything to you by any means.....

And, the community of the game is decreasing day by day, I guess that's what makes your morning? :roll:


He paid a bot to level his char because he is too big a pansy to use the bot himself. So he bot vicariously through plevelers.

He didn't download the bot or install it but he uses it. If you can't play the game you shouldn't. The community is small because most of it is AFK.


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Balderdash wrote:
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My morning is better for having read this thread. Thank you so much. If it gets worse, like when your chargeback is denied and your char is permabanned, can you post here again?


Dude what's wrong with you? I don't see he has done anything to you by any means.....

And, the community of the game is decreasing day by day, I guess that's what makes your morning? :roll:


He paid a bot to level his char because he is too big a pansy to use the bot himself. So he bot vicariously through plevelers.

He didn't download the bot or install it but he uses it. If you can't play the game you shouldn't. The community is small because most of it is AFK.


The community is too small even with the AFK people trust me. On my server, since the 110 cap about 3 whole unions quit. Can you imagine how many people are that? And I am sure, if the GM banned him on that basis, the whole party should have been banned too, why would he pick him? Doesn't make sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:41 pm 
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Joymax is a bunch of randoms


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:42 pm 
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Another example how JM are supporting bots. They let the bots get the money and then ban u.
JM are a bunch of great programmers who don't know anything about money.

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Joymax is a bunch of randoms


But I guess 25% is not that much if it was your first time buying that Premium and if it was a PP. You can start again, its not that great loss trust me. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 pm 
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Wasen't pp. just the regular ****** 1.


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Balderdash wrote:
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Balderdash wrote:
My morning is better for having read this thread. Thank you so much. If it gets worse, like when your chargeback is denied and your char is permabanned, can you post here again?


Dude what's wrong with you? I don't see he has done anything to you by any means.....

And, the community of the game is decreasing day by day, I guess that's what makes your morning? :roll:


He paid a bot to level his char because he is too big a pansy to use the bot himself. So he bot vicariously through plevelers.

He didn't download the bot or install it but he uses it. If you can't play the game you shouldn't. The community is small because most of it is AFK.


Baloney. Powerlevel is allowed, and banning people who pay for powerlevel is bullshit.

Now you can say he associated with a bot. Fine, that's not cool either. But it is currently NOT against Joymax TOS to be in a party with a bot. Nowhere does it specify that. It states don't use or run third party programs. If this person did not use a 3rd party program, why the ban?

Now I will say that there may be more to this story than meets the eye. Maybe this person has a bot account and used it recently. But as presented, the banning makes no sense in the context he gave. Is that more understandable?

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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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I've never used any kind of third party program at all. most iligal thing i did, was pk2edit 2 years ago -.-

dont care anymore wont login agian^^


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majincooler wrote:
The community is too small even with the AFK people trust me. On my server, since the 110 cap about 3 whole unions quit. Can you imagine how many people are that? And I am sure, if the GM banned him on that basis, the whole party should have been banned too, why would he pick him? Doesn't make sense.


He didn't say no one else in the party got banned or that there was more people in it than just him. lol He said the bot got DCed right before the GM spoke to him (probably banned).

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I've never used any kind of third party program at all. most iligal thing i did, was pk2edit 2 years ago -.-

dont care anymore wont login agian^^


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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To those saying "you were contributing to a bot", look at Joymax's actions. They banned bots for whatever that event it was and look, here we are back again with bad server traffic and goldbots everywhere. Your choices to me are simple:

-Don't play the game at all, and you won't get banned lol
-play the game, associate with bots, and run the risk of getting banned - although by association, Joymax itself promotes bots
-play the game, don't associate with bots, play 100% legit, no powerlevel by bots, no parties with bots, and try to enjoy what little of the game you can actually play.

Joymax in my opinion is actually holding the user base responsible, but it's too little too late. They should have banned bots all along and NEVER stopped. And for the 50th time, it's not that tough to figure out who is a bot and who is not via programming and packet analysis.

It's kind of difficult to point the finger at someone who got in a bot party and say "bad, bad" when Joymax allows it to continue. And nobody ever gets in a 4-man with a bot?

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whine, bitch, moan, various excuses.


If you can't play legit, quit.


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Hmm...all of a sudden Avalon's no bot-plvl rule seems to make a lot of sense. Haha! = p


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 Post subject: Re: Wierd.
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Location: SHEEKA JOOM BA BOOM BAH!! BAM! BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
all i see is "WAH WAH WAH WAH I PAY A COMPANY MONEY SO I CAN PAY SOMEONE ELSE IN GAME GOLD TO PAY ANOTHER COMPANY TO USE A BOT TO PLAY FOR THEM SO THAT I DONT HAVE TO PLAY THE GAME IM PAY TO NOT PLAY!!" get a life, learn how to play the game, stop bitching, and no im not a virgin.

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