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loskaos
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:54 am |
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very good read , the way you answered some not so polite people questions really gives you credibility.
I wonder why it has to be you the one that tell us all of this , if you are not even working for joymax , not criticizing , just pointing out you are filling an area that they totally neglected wich is comunicating with the players, they should have paid you for doing this...
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nightv
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:19 am |
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thank you
cuchulainn-thanks for the quotes
zero_doom-thanks again for the back up
blindarrow-thanks for knowing about bandwidth and telling everyone about it
Silkrose-thanks for the nice words, also your sig pwns ftw!
loskaos-thanks and i wish they did pay me
Criterion- wrote: Correction, SOME SA's were disbanded. Sutaseyu is still an SA and has Gargamel's MSN.
ReCorrection, ALL SA's were disbanded. Sutaseyu is not an SA and Gargamel's does not use MSN.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:32 am |
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nightv wrote: Criterion- wrote: Correction, SOME SA's were disbanded. Sutaseyu is still an SA and has Gargamel's MSN.
ReCorrection, ALL SA's were disbanded. Sutaseyu is not an SA and Gargamel's does not use MSN.
I have to call bullshit on this cause I'm pretty sure I saw bakemaster himself say he had gargamel's msn. This was back before any of them got banned etc... There would be no reason for him to lie there.
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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:42 am |
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Yeah, suta mentioned this months ago, she got him on msn to contact about something or the other
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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:49 am |
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nightv wrote: gm gargamel let me see his pc and he dosnot us msn, i asked if he uses a messager program and he just told me that they got a a company one.
Maybe he doesn't want to talk to you on msn?
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nightv
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:54 am |
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chaud wrote: nightv wrote: gm gargamel let me see his pc and he dosnot us msn, i asked if he uses a messager program and he just told me that they got a a company one. Maybe he doesn't want to talk to you on msn?
thats why he gave me his email and personal phone number? hmm you might be right there...........
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:59 am |
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nightv wrote: The_KlNG wrote: Myquestions:
Commment: From your answer up there if it is true that JM is feeling the silk boycott then what were doing is all worth it. I'd say we all continue to
boycottt silk until we see real action from JM and not just word. zero_Doom already answerd the others so let me just tell you this, iSRO makes the most money for them, and you boycotting silk is the most retarted thing i have ever heard of, do you know why people boycott? its to shutdown something and stop it form going on. and thats what boycotting silk will do.
1st:No the purpose of the boycott was to get JM attention for we feel that they are ignoring the problem. It get apparent each and everyday as the population of bot grew. Wait till gold bot compete with each other and move into the cave. Then we will have some real problem.
2nd: Some of the SA bot. Some got hack (due to botting), some quit. Some don't play in the server that they are SA for. So who still in? whos not?
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Skitsefrenik
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:07 am |
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nightv wrote: since there is some confution here when i CALL gargamel i will ask about this. but this is the list of the old silk assistents
[Silk Assistant List]
[Xian]
Bullet / Lord_Sirius / Siniko / DaeSu / Sk1p
[Venice]
NeDra / Kruelty_MgL / empty_ / GodBless / Link / Locksmith / Mocha
[Troy]
QQuasaR / Ayaname / DLyNn / CrazyNeko / AenarisNL / The / roofrat
[Oasis]
TeeKay / Rekka / Opalo / Amarisa / Joe_Mama / Sorbet / Ruin
[Babel]
Abonic / crow / Raga_BR / Sutaseyu / KingArthur / Chameleon / Rong_Wei
[Athens]
Hayvan / Aigeus / cyrusis / Neithwen / Profile / Biscuits / Cheng
[Aege]
Alatariel / Semmel / UnHeiliG / La_fronde / Peggie / VenomVulture / Selket
and other thing, why would you lissen to any one that says that there is a hack out there, that joymax as not even spoke out about.
Why would silk assistants get hacked? Bullet got hacked yeah...wouldnt JM do something about that. What about others who didnt use bots? Saying there is a hack would just scare the crowd. How come YOU have GMs number? Does cauhualan(dont know hwo to spell it) get the GMs #? Why can't he call instead?
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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:17 am |
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nightv wrote: since there is some confution here when i CALL gargamel i will ask about this. but this is the list of the old silk assistents
[Silk Assistant List]
[Xian]
Bullet / Lord_Sirius / Siniko / DaeSu / Sk1p
[Venice]
NeDra / Kruelty_MgL / empty_ / GodBless / Link / Locksmith / Mocha
[Troy]
QQuasaR / Ayaname / DLyNn / CrazyNeko / AenarisNL / The / roofrat
[Oasis]
TeeKay / Rekka / Opalo / Amarisa / Joe_Mama / Sorbet / Ruin
[Babel]
Abonic / crow / Raga_BR / Sutaseyu / KingArthur / Chameleon / Rong_Wei
[Athens]
Hayvan / Aigeus / cyrusis / Neithwen / Profile / Biscuits / Cheng
[Aege]
Alatariel / Semmel / UnHeiliG / La_fronde / Peggie / VenomVulture / Selket
and other thing, why would you lissen to any one that says that there is a hack out there, that joymax as not even spoke out about.
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Uber_Wang
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:18 am |
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Skitsefrenik wrote: why do they keep buying more servers from ebay instead of upgrading the ones we have to fit more people -_-
Because they make so much money from each server that it's purely a financial decision.
The decision to start a new server isn't the answer to server-load problems, and JM are well aware of it.
The solution to that problem will be a 2 part in my opinion.
-1. Ban botters (by whatever means is effective)
-2. Initiate a more sensible trading system (ppl staying logged in to sell wares and not actively playing are a huge problem). Other MMORPG's have "off-server" trading methods which work well.
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Skitsefrenik
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:23 am |
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Uber_Wang wrote: Skitsefrenik wrote: why do they keep buying more servers from ebay instead of upgrading the ones we have to fit more people -_- Because they make so much money from each server that it's purely a financial decision. The decision to start a new server isn't the answer to server-load problems, and JM are well aware of it. The solution to that problem will be a 2 part in my opinion. -1. Ban botters (by whatever means is effective) -2. Initiate a more sensible trading system (ppl staying logged in to sell wares and not actively playing are a huge problem). Other MMORPG's have "off-server" trading methods which work well.
your 2nd option will not work. less time selling just = more time playing. upgrading equipment and not just getting new ebay servers. they can buy all the servers in the world, but unless they can hold more people.....its pretty pointless. I hope this boycot will teach them, We dont care how much money they make.
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Uber_Wang
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:28 am |
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nightv wrote: Skitsefrenik wrote: if the servers are so big....how come we all keep getting disconnected.
that has nothing to do with the server size. that ?????? error is your computer not understanding korean language filter just like when most of you log on to the korean site all you see is ???? for text. and if you do disconnect its from your PC timing out on there server, and thats from you pc not there server. things you might what to try that i did and i never get the error anymore download all windows language filters for korean. update video drivers AND monitor drivers! this is one of the things that most dont do but this is a error that happens in most pc games when they are using monitors like LG and SONY
This is pure bs.
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cuchulainn
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:29 am |
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Skitsefrenik wrote: ... How come YOU have GMs number? Does cuchulain(dont know hwo to spell it) get the GMs #? Why can't he call instead?
We both have Gargamel's contact info because we were the contestants from the USA for GNGWC. I plan on talking to Gargamel in a week or two, but to be honest, I'd rather catch up with my schoolwork and study for my midterms before doing stuff for a game (even if it's a game that i'm horribly addicted to, lol)
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Chaud
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:35 am |
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Bakemaster = Chameleon.
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Uber_Wang
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:46 am |
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nightv wrote: (snip)
zero_Doom already answerd the others so let me just tell you this, iSRO makes the most money for them, and you boycotting silk is the most retarted thing i
have ever heard of, do you know why people boycott? its to shutdown something and stop it form going on. and thats what boycotting silk will do.
(snip)
It is one thing to be here presenting yourself as a "helpful friend" but it is something altogether different to be sending messages like this nightv.
Scaremongering and nothing more.
You've taken pages out of George Bush's book on Controlling Public Opinion (not that I buy either of your "truths").
JM will not be closed down as a result of a group of users BOYCOTTING SILK. This is bs again.
JM have left the dissatisfied genuine user very little other option, have they?
We have no way of communicating with them (except through "friends" like you), and we need to send a message.
Apparently they are listening.
Let's see if we can now get them to do something as well as sending a PR mouthpiece to sell the "we're doing all we can" bs.
Collective Bargaining has a powerful history, let's see it expand 
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IguanaRampage
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:49 am |
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Silkrose wrote: I don't understand why people keep bitchin'? I mean, come on, can't you understand JM is in a lot of pressure right now. I would like you guys to go and handle such a big game with a bunch of wailing players who like everything they want granted. It's not that easy and what with all the CCF'ng, instead of being able to hire more people, they're having to cope with financial problems.
So little employees, + CCF'ers + Game Problems (like bots, glitches, lag, etc), and whiny little boys = Heavy Pressure on Joymax
I do agree all these are their responsibility, yes we can whine, but not to the extent that you blame them for everything and punish them. I would really love all the whiners to work in Joymax, but do them a favor and work there when you've got more mature minds so you can all understand that all your wishes for better gaming experience is not that easy to solve.
I know they're updated with everything going on, what people are complaining about and blah blah blah, it's just that they're so busy with all other more important things that they can't just handle EVERY SINGLE complaint IN ONE GO. Keep in mind that JM is not as large as other gaming companies. They have a lot on their hands right now, you should even be thankful they're still thinking and working on solving these problems, otherwise they should just have closed down to escape people who have nothing better to do than complain.
I think we must all remember that this is an f2p game. That there is a cash shop, but boycotting Silk is probably the worst way to do things. Sure, they'll wish that they put more updates into iSRO, but what good is wishing when they wont be able to afford to do it?? Then you all will still be mad. nightv seems to be doing a generous thing by telling us all this, and we probably shouldnt reject the advice s/hes giving. But, s/he isn't in contact with all of JM, only Gargarmel, and it doesnt seem like Gargarmel is really in contact with the heart of JM who is handling all these issues.
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Alfred
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:53 am |
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If I buy silk, it will not help me out in any way since I can't grind because of botters, I'm too poor to start making all of my gear to +5 or more, I don't find any interest in making globals, I don't care for a tree hat.
Should I buy silk just to make sure JM don't go under. I don't think so. I'm not an investor in JM. I'm a customer. I want a functional product. If they can't live up to a reasonable standard, I'm not gonna pay them. There is nothing wrong with that. Just common sense.
If anyone wonder where Bakemaster a.k.a. Chameleon is, he is taking some time off, not knowing if he will get back to this game.
As for Sutasyue, no she is not an rotten apple. She has taken her SA job seriously just like Bakemaster. So don't start making up things about people you don't know.
What I know, it was not the SA's but the GM's who lacked in effiency. One of the reasons Bakemaster grew tired of this game, is that they were making so many promises but nothing happend and there are still alot of unanswered questions on the SA forum.
I will let Bakemaster speak for himself though, beacuse thats one thing he is really good at. If he will post, I don't know. But i don't have all the insight and will not start speculating about things.
I doubt Chameleon would lie about having Gargamel's, or who's ever the GM was, msn. It could have been one of the others wich would make sense, when you are saying Gargamel doesn't have one. And the thing about GM's don't visits the forums. Well, HuyFong got a birthday greeting from one of the GM's after posting it on a forum together with some alchemy he did, if I remember corectly.
If you do got this good contact with a GM, please continue trying to get all of our questions answered. But what I still don't get is why a player, even though you participated and won in the SR competition, is the one to get answers to these questions.
I hope JM will live up to all these improvements you are telling us. If they do, people will start buying silk again and those who never did from the start, might even reconsider doing it.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:03 am |
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Jeronimo wrote: cuchulainn wrote: Skitsefrenik wrote: nightv wrote: Chaby wrote: OK. I have for me important questions. I'm force user, curently my Force is lvl 65. I can ress lvl 73 ATM. When the cap goes to 80. They say there will be no new skills! Does that mean that there will be lvl 80 players, and I wont be able to ress them, cause max ress is lvl 79? Same goes for Therapy, max prevention is 79. If I'll be 80, there are lvl 80 monsters. And my NPCs will be 80+. So my question is, why do they neglect Force so much? Will there be 80+ ress and attack prevention? If their stuff is suppose to be 300/300, or 150/150. Why does the Force have no imbue or mastery lvl bonus?
I know most people dont take Force and couldnt care less, but I really need to know, I dont want to delevel Force just because JoyMax cant make proper Force tree. no new skills onlylving the old ones which i think the healing skills get to lv 90 before the next skill same with ring also they have it set to 300 for now and should be lv 600/600 when the level gap hits higher then lv 90, but as for now there is no need Jeronimo wrote: aaight so first check THIS site 4 the East-asian language packs/filter/whateva... Second-->question: WTF is wrong with this darn alcemy system ? Sum ppl get to +3 (or more  ) without ANY problems and others already fail getting to +1  Is this wanted or is this sum unwanted "side-effect" ? EDIT: and here's ANOTHER site 2 install all the East-Asian stuff.... you can not fail alchemy to +1 for starters. also its all based on luck just like sos drops are all luck so is alchemy stop contridicting yourself. theres no need to say you cant fail +1 when obviously you can and then state its based on luck. why cant we get a GM to talk about these things and who are you anyways -_-. A little clarification, You cannot fail going to +1 with lucky powder. The rest of it is just luck. There aren't any tricks to alchemy, just luck and persistence. Sry but I strongly disagree ! I failed twice until now  Now if that isn't bad luck I think I'm screwed... EDIT: @nightv What do u mean with "starters" ? I've been playing this game 4 9 months now...I doubt I'm still a starter  Ever tried using these cheep cheep 2 dolla items called Lucky Powder?
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:04 am |
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Alfred wrote: If you do got this good contact with a GM, please continue trying to get all of our questions answered. But what I still don't get is why a player, even though you participated and won in the SR competition, is the one to get answers to these questions. I hope JM will live up to all these improvements you are telling us. If they do, people will start buying silk again and those who never did from the start, might even reconsider doing it.
i can follow you in that Alfred. Like you said the company itself should provide any kind of service to answers player's questions and grieves. But... let me remind you that EA also sucks at any support (in fact do they have any at all?) and you pay for their games...
On the other hand... let's say Gargamel comes on this forums and proves he is the real one... imagine what that would give:
1. flaming, begging and praising alltogheter in one topic
2. his pm full in 25 seconds
nightv can you keep us posted on any new information and answers on these questions? thx
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:18 am |
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Alfred wrote: I don't care for a tree hat.
You have NO idea what you're missing.  Bara and I are sooo much happier since we got our tree hats (no, not together). I could truly recommend those hats to everyone. 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:46 am |
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XxpeddyxX wrote: Ever tried using these cheep cheep 2 dolla items called Lucky Powder?
Yeah....sumhow they got into the "Attribute Enchance" window,I lost 60k and I pressed fuse  ... of course I used Lucky Powder !
oh..and it's spelled "che ap" 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:25 am |
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O.o
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I think its great thing what nightv is doing for us. Taking time out to actually answer our questions. N as you can easily see there are hundreds of questions for him to answer. Along with all the repeated and pointless questions. Also he has to keep calm especially when there are so many people out there who simply flame JM and/or the GMs when in truth they are doing all that they can to help us out. Also try to take into account the number of questions he is possibly getting in his PM.
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If he says that the SAs have been disband then why not believe him? I mean him and cuch are the closest we will get to a GM at the moment. It may be true that Bake and some other ex-SAs have a way to contact a GM. However im sure if u ask they wont say as they would not want the GM to be flooded with calls/emails.
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The fact that night n cuch can actually call gargamel n talk/ask about our questions is a definate bonus to us. So it would be greatly appreciated if you did not constantly flame him/GM/JM. It may be true that the GMs read these forums or will read these forums at sometime. N im sure they will appreciate what nightv n cuch are doing to help them. However if they see the response that you give them, well it will only make them take questions and suggestions like this less seriously. They should know that the community which they work so hard to maintain and keep happy appreciate all their work, not just get angry at any little thing because the game is not PERFECT.... Its a free game n the GMs truely are working on it. Just give them the support they need with good questions and suggestions and not just flames and complaints..
I hope this changes some peoples points of view.. If not well at least i tried.
O n nightv
nightv wrote: cuchulian showed gargamel these forums and thout it was funny what most of you are saying / doing.
O relly? Hehehe did he say anything about my Thread?
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:37 am |
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question: do you have any knowledge on the status of Guild Quests? This is stated in the manual online. It would be great for guilds to have these kinds of quest.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:52 am |
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nightv wrote: JM wants to make 100% that its a botter before banning!
Oh please. If they dont have 30 minutes a day to storm the caves or other bot infested areas they might as well quit their job. It's obvius that someone from JM is making bot, and running gold bots. And to think I listend to you and bought silk... again. But lets just say I have another question. Why is there no block list? Hasnt been any for ages.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:09 am |
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nightv wrote: also if you want to ban botters and you see one, take a dam video! pics mean jackshit ok they can be faked to make it look like some one is botting and they are not. JM wants to make 100% that its a botter before banning!
Although it may not be the quickest way to deal with botters, I actually appreciate this thing. I'd hate to be banned just because some idiot mistook me for a botter, and JM accepting their report at face value. Or being blocked for botting because a group of players with a grudge (after a successfull thieving attempt?) decides to mass report me. I'm anxiously awaiting the bot blocker you mentioned, though should that not be sufficient perhaps some active bot hunters/reporters should be appointed (and checked upon to avoid power abuse) by JM.
As a side topic: do they have any idea on how to restore the game economy? The massive gold bot farming and gold selling has really increased the prices to a level where most players can't afford good items anymore. Heck, you know my reputation, and even I'm starting to have financial problems at times (not right now though). 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:17 am |
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nightv wrote: also do ou think they read these forums? hell no they dont.
You know, I'm 99% sure I saw cuchulain say something about crayon visiting forums... Maybe gargamel doesn't.
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