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Wow you guys had alot of issues to work with the people who think that they know every single thing thats going on thanks for the updates Sutaseyu and Cham. keep up the good work

OH Cham I'm utterly disappointed at your lack of neanderlithic Man-with-a-Hat rage. You didn't even *comment* on the "Sa's not doing their job" thing lawl which I personally, thought was almost as funny as the time when my personal friend George Costanza, took boxer shots on the setee

Here's the old (2004) hardware setup from the forums.. we're on to much, much, much bigger things nowadays.

Hardware config
Web Server: Dual Opteron 246, 8 Gigs of Ram ,Quantum Atlas IV 10k 36 Gig Raid 1 with Adaptec Ultra 160 Raid Card, Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Database Server: P4 2.8E w/1MB cache, 2 Gigs of Ram, Intel CSA Gigabit Interface ,Quantum Atlas IV 10k 36k Raid 1 with Adaptec Ultra 160 Raid Card

Future Hardware that has already been purchased and will be installed in a month (june 2004):
Cisco 11503 Content Switch with 18 ports, GBIC, Dell Powerconnect 24 Port Gigabit Switch, APC 5000VA
Web Servers - 3 of them: Dell Poweredge 1750, Dual 2.4 Xeon, 2 gigs of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 SCSI, Seagate Cheetah 15k Drive.
Gallery/Uploads Server: Dell Poweredge 1750, 2.4 Xeon, 1 gig of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 SCSI, Seagate Cheetah 15k Drive.
Database Server: Dell Poweredge 1750, Dual 3.06 Xeons, 4 gigs of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 Raid Controller, 2 Fujitsu 15k Drives - Raid 1.

And bandwidth is insanely expensive.. like I said, we chew through quite a bit over there every month, and that's just a message forum. Multiply it exponentially for the constant communication that an online game maintains, and suddenly your bill is more than you can lie to mommy or daddy about.

And this thread is an absolute clusterfuck, for lack of a better term. The main point is this.. shut up unless you know what you're talking about. This talk of suing Joymax makes me laugh nearly uncontrollably, as does the idea that, by boycotting silk, you're going to bring about change. First off, you're too few and far between to matter, and second, it's absolutely asinine to think that you will somehow drum up attention for your cause.

Oh, and 95% of you need to learn how to read, spell, and form coherent thoughts.

O.o




I think this points out that the GMs DO read this forum.. I mean this IS the BIGGEST unoficial SRO forum.. Its way bigger than Tavern or Oasis, And im sure its much more respected...

Since on the official forums people just start shouting the most random things, make billions of repeating threads... which makes it absolutely impossible to keep track of whats going on. Im sure the GMs like to mayb not always but once in a while check there forums because they know that this is a very well moinitored and maintained forum. Also their GNGWC winners and SA are regulars here on this forum thus making it even more appealing to the GMs. N im sure that cuch and night had only good things to say about SRF.

Well if the GMs do check on these forums then i think its a possitive thing.. Cuz they get to see what most of thier players desire or suggest without having to dig through piles and piles of rants and garbage.. So i think we should all consider that yes.. It is possible that the GMs are reading this forum and possibly this very thread.. They of course dont make themselves known because it would attract to much attention and only cause chaos...

So please if possible only post possitive or constructive comments when directly reffering to the GM/JM or SRO.. It will be better for us as well cuz the GMs will know that infact they ARE appreciated for all the hard work they do... If you have some suggestions/comments/complaints dont flame them out. Say them in the most possitive and constructive way possible.. If you do this someone who might know the answer would feel more motivated to respond in a way which would help the most not just for you but for anyone who had the same question.

So just think before you post.. Hopefully this might change some people.. but of course not all will take notice..

P.s (just a little thing for me) nightv or cuch did the GMs say anything about my Update post when you showed them the forums?? Any info would be much appreciated

not a bad setup.... no new servers for me in 2006, but once i get my budget approved for 2007, i'm probably going to get soem 10blade servers from dell.

but still.... expensive. in 2005, we purchased 40 dual opteron 246s with 36gig cheetahs, and 2 gigs of ram for 220k, mounted in 4 post racks with wheels, 2 hp 2626 switches, and a cyclades 48 port console server... so that comes out to slightly less than 5k per server.

and to night... wtf man? i construct this nice paragraph without any flaming or just retarded rants and you take my suggestion and throw it out the door without even giving it a chance? thats some bs man... they were already doing it in the past. i don't see why they can't take an hour out of their week to answer pressing issues that the entire community wants answered. my suggestion was probably the best method for them to get this PR debacle back under control. reconsider what i said.

OK well I vote you for managing the hardware for SRO. Cham already screamed at them to farm it out to a consultant knowledgeable and educated enough to handle large traffic environments. Throw in a few golf rounds from EDS and u should have the job :p

[quote="majikman"][quote="blindarrow"]
Here's the old (2004) hardware setup from the forums.. we're on to much, much, much bigger things nowadays.

Hardware config
Web Server: Dual Opteron 246, 8 Gigs of Ram ,Quantum Atlas IV 10k 36 Gig Raid 1 with Adaptec Ultra 160 Raid Card, Dual Gigabit Ethernet
Database Server: P4 2.8E w/1MB cache, 2 Gigs of Ram, Intel CSA Gigabit Interface ,Quantum Atlas IV 10k 36k Raid 1 with Adaptec Ultra 160 Raid Card

Future Hardware that has already been purchased and will be installed in a month (june 2004):
Cisco 11503 Content Switch with 18 ports, GBIC, Dell Powerconnect 24 Port Gigabit Switch, APC 5000VA
Web Servers - 3 of them: Dell Poweredge 1750, Dual 2.4 Xeon, 2 gigs of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 SCSI, Seagate Cheetah 15k Drive.
Gallery/Uploads Server: Dell Poweredge 1750, 2.4 Xeon, 1 gig of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 SCSI, Seagate Cheetah 15k Drive.
Database Server: Dell Poweredge 1750, Dual 3.06 Xeons, 4 gigs of Ram, Dual Broadcom Gigabit Interface, LSI Ultra 320 Raid Controller, 2 Fujitsu 15k Drives - Raid 1.
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not a bad setup.... no new servers for me in 2006, but once i get my budget approved for 2007, i'm probably going to get soem 10blade servers from dell.

but still.... expensive. in 2005, we purchased 40 dual opteron 246s with 36gig cheetahs, and 2 gigs of ram for 220k, mounted in 4 post racks with wheels, 2 hp 2626 switches, and a cyclades 48 port console server... so that comes out to slightly less than 5k per server.

and to night... wtf man? i construct this nice paragraph without any flaming or just retarded rants and you take my suggestion and throw it out the door without even giving it a chance? thats some bs man... they were already doing it in the past. i don't see why they can't take an hour out of their week to answer pressing issues that the entire community wants answered. my suggestion was probably the best method for them to get this PR debacle back under control. reconsider what i said.[/quote]

lol susateyu... i wouldn't mind it, to telll ya the truth .

and if they're opening an office in california... thats where i live, so perfect.

if they could afford me.... the website i work for has 80million registered users with about 3 million active users per day logging in for on average 3 hours per day per user. my company is one of the largest, if not the largest, gaming websites in the world.

and its because of this experience i have that i know JM could do a lot about botters... we hire 3 or 4 people, pay them minimum wage, one supervisor, and one programmer to write programs to catch botters and we're able to keep the number of botters to a relative minimum.... and btw, its free to play at the website i work for... so don't anyone bring up that argument. our revenue is purely ad based.

Lol Suta sorry for the misquoting , but very well said walls of text.

XD

XD

Yah pretty much you've just quoted my discussion with L without having been on the phone with us xD. Even IF joymax bought the cheapest, most stock, buggiest game engine they could find, all of this - from a programmers standpoint - is ridiculous. You may even be overstaffing your environment tbh (unless u r lead contractor and r subcontracting to the others, in which case loadddddd it up). So obviously u r therefore of the same opinion as L - there is a reason the botting, ccfing etc isn't being fixed. Someone mentioned a publicity stunt going terribly wrong - I can't believe that that is all this is about. Chameleon even provided code for one of the bugs and it, as far as I know, went unpatched. The only other thing on the honourable side of things that I could think of was that joymax's website contains other games - so the possibility exists that our GM's are the GM's/developers for those games too, which would explain the time constraints and lack of attention to detail. But that would also make Joymax look really stupid. An event a month coupled with a little ingame attention would make them a fortune - ppl would still buy silk and grind it out waiting for lvl cap. As it is, disgruntled ppl leave. When I ran my management seminars, the first rule I beat into their white collar heads was "It will cost you 10x as much to find and entice new customers as it will to maintain a loyal customer base right from the beginning." I strongly believe that.

*flogs self for not inserting any line breaks - however I'm applying Barbie Hot Pink lipstick to a 4 year old while typing*

The thing that gets me pissed is the ccf problem that is so hard to control.
It's not hard to go into the game, Read the chat box and see the globals every couple of minutes selling 500silk = 5m. Also with the botters, Maybe if they walked around the game or payed someone minimum wage to do it they would find hundreds.

the thing that's hard is that people in game non ccf actually do sell globals and astrals and such, although in limited quantities.. and some of them do shout out globals of that in Troy.

Now the question to the SAs: yes I would appreciate it if you could list all of the SAs for each server. I've always been curious as to who the Troy SAs are since I have never seen them post in forums... ever... Also no one I know on Troy has even heard or mentioned any Troy SAs since the opening of the SA program. thanks a lot!

Isn't / wasn't roofrat one?

I'm not sure what we're going to next. Version 10 is about to roll out, and it's supposedly going to be one of the biggest yet.. I dance without my pants in anticipation of it.

hmmm great topic just got trashed, try to help and get flamed, if these guys were so great, info would have bin given out.

Sutaseyu, lissen to yourself before you type, you sit there and tell people just now about this and that. but you have not made the attempt to give info out.

also

dont be an asshole. simple.

ok i did check out the msn with the joymax email and it looks like it works, my bad on that, since i am not a silk assistent things were not explained to me as one. so sorry on that.

from what i was told they shut down for SA, but i might have mixed that up with what he was talking about with the SAs.

and i told every one i do not have contact with crayon, only gargamel. which you guys are calling girls... there GUYS.

smerks at Sutaseyu once more.




umm dont know the HHCD......but yes there was a big strian on the gms for the gngwc. and it did slow every thing down alllllllot.

as for the trade hack you said it happend on your server, ok then, why was there not a post about it on the joymax forums / problems to tell people do not trade with others till the problem is fixed


also Sutaseyu when i said in contact im talking about person to person. i did not say you didnt talk to them, since you are
"i guess a SA still"


also, I was told to get video, of botters. not pics. so whatever to you on that.

also i said before. i am not with joymax at all, what i have told you is what i was told to the best of my what i know. yes there could be some thing that were misscomunicated. but atleast im trying to help unlike your self.

realy tell me what your doing to make a better iSRO. i realy want to know, since im not seeing it and the people filling my pm inbox seeing it.

now i get the idea why GMs dont try to talk with you guys more, cause all you do is shoot down good things or people trying to help

Thanks nightv info.. No point in posting any more tho. You got a bunch of know it alls.

And I distinctly remember Huyfong or Juey or someone posting it was his b-day on the forums and Gm Pizza wished him happy b-day and he got 100% on all alchemy etc.... so maybe gargarmel was the only one who didnt know? i dunno.

Guess what? You don't need to know. You're not a Silk Assistant and what we discuss in the SA forum is very often private. Congratulations on your fifteen minutes of fame, I'm sure it was a lot of fun, but we've been writing reports and investigating bugs for five months now. What we do is work. What you did is have a friendly chat, and then think that gives you the right to second-guess our five months of work. That's where you crossed the line from being helpful to being in the way.

Icechai requested a list of current SAs, and here it is, to the best of my knowledge. There are no SAs on the other servers.
Aege: la_fronde
Babel: Sutaseyu, Chameleon
Oasis: TeeKay, Rekka
Troy: CrazyNeko, roofrat
Xian: Lord_Sirius

more power to you, as i said im not a SA, and telling not only me but every one else that we dont need to know. whats going on is such a load of crap. get of you high horse. do you think that i get fame for doing this hell no all i get is flamed and may be a small group of people that go you know what thanks for trying to help use out.

I bet you dont even know half the bugs out there like lets sayglitching theifs under hotan.

or

let say that alot of time when you have buff on and select anther player it will show them with soul spear as a buff.

what about those.


i mea give some people i privite forum, and a title and they think there high and mighty and all that. gezz get over your selfs. im trying to help people on a personal gamer base and let them know the things that i did/saw when i was over there, and that i can call when there is a problem and ask about it.

man im glad im not on your server, you seem like a real dick.

Since I talk to CN from time to time, last I heard he and roofrat are indeed the only SAs on Troy at this time. I do agree with nightv on one thing tho: over the last couple of months we heard little to no useful info from you SAs on what JM is doing. I'm sure you do lots of useful things for the game, but you've done very little in the information towards the players department. I for one actually appreciate the info nightv has been giving out, even if it may contain some miscommunications. Now perhaps you two should have a talk, and combine your information sources, and get the players some answers for the questions they've been dying to ask for months! I realise that the GMs are very busy people, and have better things to do than to work out the English in these forums, but at least you guys/girls should have a go at it.

phulshof your on the ball, but i dont think i will get any were with them. its not a big secrite about the bugs in the game or anything they realy "work on" after all they are just players.

Ok well I'm still at odds as to whether or not I should post the private message asking me not to tell Crayon about nightv? This was a message from nightv... and you SIT here and SAY oh em gee I'm the only one trying to help? Lord. You have spewed so much misinformation, that you are hurting more than helping. I have MESSAGEs in my inbox from players EXPECTING mastery levels to raise to 600!!! Good GOD. If you WONDER why we aren't on these forums - bah. We spend hours writing reports and handling in game matters - to the tune of well over 10 hours/day. My account is stalled or playing 24/7 - my inbox is consistently filled every morning and I empty it by noon.

There is not one bug I AM GONNA GUESS that you can acquaint us with. Babel players know exactly where and how to find help, and they come to us constantly. I am all for players helping other players, it's how the game should work. However, you seem to have decided that with little or no information that you are going to become the great White Saviour of the little guy.

The reason Chameleon and I do not post a lot of what we know is because we *can't*. A great part of the SA program is acting with discretion. I'm not even allowed to curse at players anymore....There is absolutely no point to Cham and I posting ok well X is a hacker and Y is ccfing, we know this from confidential reports from Z. We don't do that. Anyone that reports to us expects and receives confidentiality. The same goes with any information given to us by the GM's. IF they say yes you can tell people, we do. But in order to have a good working relationship with people, they need to know that they can count on you for silence when they request it - and Chameleon and I both follow that to the letter.

We aren't sitting on these forums looking for fame, or trying to make wicky posts about nothing just so that ppl will go oooh look an SA posted. When we have something to share, LIKE THE TRADE HACK, we will share it. And FYI, you rocket scientist, we don't post on the sro.net forums because they are not secure - something else we have shared with the community. They can still be hacked, players that are posting there are having their accounts cleaned off, and it's because the coding is faulty and allows SQL injections of code. We HAVE reported this to Joymax repeatedly...it has not been repaired.

Furthermore to the group on Troy - sadly roofrat was hacked - we're not sure whether it was by trade (yes he unwittingly accepted a noob trade request before maintenance), or if it was because he was answering posts in the general forum, trying to be of assistance. We have posted the method to the best of our knowledge for both of these hacks, and again, to our knowledge, nothing has been repaired.

EDIT: AND LOL - the reason we often refer to Gargamel as a "she" is because the character he presents himself ingame with is a female wearing 9th degree gear. GG on the great scoop tho.

Wow, you are very, very annoying.

wow i guess you didnt know that all gms are femail charicters and that is not 9th degreee armor its GM armor. 9th degree armor is red and uses the symble of the bore......


you need to work on your "bed side manner" and the reason i posted to you in PM is so that you could run it by gargamel not canyon since i did not get info form canyon exept the whole ccf thing. need to step of the high horse a bit and see im trying to help. as for the ok this is what you can tell people and this is what you cant tell people. this is all just general info that many want to know. nothing that will hurt any one. its not like im going in to great detial about anything else. with the game. just trying to help people get a idea that

1. joymax is a good company and is trying to help and fix as many problems as they can as fast as they can.

2.Lay of the gms, they got alot ot do.

3.stuff is going to look to the better soon.

im with nightv regarding this thread, enough said.

look... it's plain and simple...

The only thing people want is INFORMATION&COMMUNICATION!

So far there has been no statement from Joymax concerning CCF, why it takes so long to get a bot list, if there is an ETA on updates or events or whatever. Players have questions, Joymax doesn't supply the answers, heck they don't even give any answers at all (besides the Q&A)

If players would know that there is something about to be done to the botters, that CCF is looked into, maybe a timezone on updates or events people would be less complaining...
Information is the keyword here and when a person on this forum finally gives some info (of which some is correct or maybe not correct) on any questions that is greatly appreciated.

If now only Joymax would do this then all these discussions are not needed... People would just say: check the sro site there's all the info you need... et voila problem partialy solved...

I think that loads of people on this forum appreciate what nightv does because he at least gives us some information.

Bake and Sut: i can imagine that some info is confident but things like the trade hack etc. are very important... i do not know if you did or did not confirm this but i think you should have.

nightv, Bake and Sut, as said, you should try to work togheter if you want to... end the end you all have the same goal... And you all want joymax to be more straightforward on information.

U know this really shows u SA`s in a bad light, u are acting like spoiled lil children that someone has taken ur lollypop away from. I for one expected more maturity from players granted the rights of being an SA!!!

1. Night and Cuch Don`t need to do this to earn fame, guess what guys and gals they allready have it, they went where u all didn`t, and they earned that right, wasn`t a random drawing, they earned it. IF i was an SA I would have contacted BOTH of them as soon as they got back and ask for any info they were able to find out, so i would be able to pass it along to my fellow players. And just for the record i would have also made it painfully clear that info was gained by night and cuch and shared with me, cause u see i m to damn old to have an ego i know how fragile and demeaning they can become how they stand in ur way of actually doing your job.

2. If u want to get technical , the sa`s on my server were disbanded, and i was told by one in the same guild at the time that the sa forum was removed, so now r u telling me he is lieing, humm interesting.

3. This isn`t about ego`s nor standing on a golden pedistal so u can look down at all the other mortal lowlife players in the game around u, and yes that is how u people are coming across to me and possibly other people here. Night posted here items he was told by Gar either inperson or over the phone as night and Cuch have stated they speak to Gar on the phone.
Now if u really cared one lil bit about these players and not ur ego u would not have attacked night over his trying to help with what info he has been able to find out. If u weren`t protecting ur ego`s u would have contacted night and cuch BOTH in private and asked them to work with u all in spreading the infomation they have been able to discover.

4. U all need a lesson in Corp 101, u work as a TEAM for the improvement of ur co workers and corp. But as in real life so is it here some of u are on the flight path of only caring about there own lil success and fame instead of trying to look out for there co workers.

5. U Sa`s blew it, u had the perfect oppertunity to work as a team. U knew night and cuch had actually spoken to people u haven`t and possibly gained info u had not been given. U could have done alot for this community (meaning the whole of Isro) if u had put ur egos aside and contacted night and cuch and asked them to work with u all as a TEAM, sharing any info they were able to gain. BUT sadly u did not. Instead u blantenly attack and try to belittle any attempts they have made in sharing any info they have gained.

6. Ohh and just incase u try flaming me, sorry lil ones i m a tad to old for that to work on me and the readers here are mature enuf to be able to read and see what i have said as the truth.

Hold the phone cocheese... You CAN fail when trying to get to +1. I know this because it has happened to me. Failed to +1 on a level 55 SOS garment head (twice, I think) before getting to +3.

have you failed recently w/ a lucky powder? I have failed before to but that was ages ago. Never failed w/ lucky powder +1 for many months now.