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Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

During this hour when server was up, I managed to grind 350k sp with 9 gap on 110.
Lesson learned - 0 gap to cap next time.

Macsnow · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1243 **Location:** Chair.

Why not use Bless or Skins as a Warrior? It's a skill, the game was made to allow for one to use it, if not, it would be there.

I myself never used that cheap tactic, but isn't prohibiting a Warrior from using such skills, the same as saying "Hey, you're Dagger Desperate is an overpowered buff, don't use it"? The same can apply to Life Control, Snow Shield, or the Shield/Fan series on Chinese (Bicheon & Heuskal). Also, you could apply this to Vigor usage.

If there's something you can use to defeat your opponent, why not use it?

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Nitro wrote:

During this hour when server was up, I managed to grind 350k sp with 9 gap on 110.
Lesson learned - 0 gap to cap next time.

and i made 94>98 at chasers ;/

at mac, one question, isnt it op?

Snowshield: one-two crits and ur mana will be f\ucked (depends on mana)
Fan series: lasts 15 sec.

Bless and skins, depends on nothing, last 45sec, with HRD, HC/HO, a warrior cleric is unkillable, i my self wont pvp some1 that would spam them like that.

Obsidian · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:02 pm

Nitro wrote:

During this hour when server was up, I managed to grind 350k sp with 9 gap on 110.
Lesson learned - 0 gap to cap next time.

Agreed. I farmed 1M SP in 1 day the other day at the 107 fish.
I was all about 100 cap until I started farming in B4... B4 = :soosad:

About the skills, I'm guessing they don't want them used in the tournaments or something?
It's incredibly unfair to disable them, I only use them in job and 2v1, though.
They might as well disable snow, iron wall, and bloody snake fan, too.

Wello27 · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 706 **Location:** USA

Macsnow wrote:

Why not use Bless or Skins as a Warrior? It's a skill, the game was made to allow for one to use it, if not, it would be there.

I myself never used that cheap tactic, but isn't prohibiting a Warrior from using such skills, the same as saying "Hey, you're Dagger Desperate is an overpowered buff, don't use it"? The same can apply to Life Control, Snow Shield, or the Shield/Fan series on Chinese (Bicheon & Heuskal). Also, you could apply this to Vigor usage.

If there's something you can use to defeat your opponent, why not use it?

Disagree it's not the same. Fan for glaive doens't make them unstoppable, especially against physical. Snow shield has a consequence, MP usage and for STR too high level is not good. The other skills sure make them hit harder but no invincible. Warrior with bless/skins is stupid.

Also just because it's in game doesn't mean it should be. Joymax has proven with Euro they are have no concept of game balance.

Once GW2 is out, I see absolutely no reason why anyone will play this game. $50 once is far cheaper than silk and the game will be balanced.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Obsidian wrote:

Nitro wrote:

During this hour when server was up, I managed to grind 350k sp with 9 gap on 110.
Lesson learned - 0 gap to cap next time.

Agreed. I farmed 1M SP in 1 day the other day at the 107 fish.
I was all about 100 cap until I started farming in B4... B4 = :soosad:

About the skills, I'm guessing they don't want them used in the tournaments or something?
It's incredibly unfair to disable them, I only use them in job and 2v1, though.
They might as well disable snow, iron wall, and bloody snake fan, too.

they mean in 1v1 lol.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8672/85686977.jpg something is wrong :roll:

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Strwarrior wrote:

at mac, one question, isnt it op?

Snowshield: one-two crits and ur mana will be f\ucked (depends on mana)
Fan series: lasts 15 sec.

Bless and skins, depends on nothing, last 45sec, with HRD, HC/HO, a warrior cleric is unkillable, i my self wont pvp some1 that would spam them like that.

1. You basically have to get two crits with dare devil to kill an int through snow shield. Assuming that they have semi-decent gear, ofc.

2. With skins out, you can't switch to cleric rod to heal or spam integrity should you get debuffed, without losing skins.

3. Snow shield lasts for what. 2 minutes? Bless lasts for 45ish seconds.

4. If you use snow shield, then fan series/whatever afterwords, you only have to tank for like 15 seconds before you can use snow shield again. Shit is dumb.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:13 pm

Tasdik wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

at mac, one question, isnt it op?

Snowshield: one-two crits and ur mana will be f\ucked (depends on mana)
Fan series: lasts 15 sec.

Bless and skins, depends on nothing, last 45sec, with HRD, HC/HO, a warrior cleric is unkillable, i my self wont pvp some1 that would spam them like that.

1. You basically have to get two crits with dare devil to kill an int through snow shield. Assuming that they have semi-decent gear, ofc.

2. With skins out, you can't switch to cleric rod to heal or spam integrity should you get debuffed, without losing skins.

3. Snow shield lasts for what. 2 minutes? Bless lasts for 45ish seconds.

4. If you use snow shield, then fan series/whatever afterwords, you only have to tank for like 15 seconds before you can use snow shield again. Shit is dumb.

the fact is you can kill someone who has snowshield AND fan or the bich one on at the same time. If a warrior has either skins or bless on (one or the other) they are simply UNKILLABLE. they might as well have just have combined the two skins and gave all euros an i win button. "You have 100% immunity to all attacks and abilities as well as a 50% damage boost for 45 seconds".

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Oh, so I just saw a screen shot of this one guy who has 1.4 trillion gold.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:24 pm

Tasdik wrote:

Oh, so I just saw a screen shot of this one guy who has 1.4 trillion gold.

how is that possible? doesn't your inventory have a 1bill limit and your storage as well? At least that's how it was long ago.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

No. You can easily go over 1 bill now. I've just never seen 1 trillion before now.

*goes to ask for 10b plys*

Amarisa · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4049 **Location:** Magic

Strwarrior wrote:

Amarisa wrote:

Guys stop complaining about the buff skills. 1 They are a complete retard for using both bless and skins at the same time and 2 it's all about having the advantage against your opponent.

With my warrior on Bsro if a warrior skins I kb and bless so I can continue to heal while they can't without canceling their buff. I only use skin when the other person does major dmg and already have a fresh HC on me. It's called strategy

ok im a spear nuker i cant kd or anything, my stuns would work after 20 soul spear and my kb works after 3000000000 ghost spear(kidding), but its still hard ;/, (bless + skins = 90 Sec), which means i only have 30 sec to finish him off, before i get totally buttraped, thats if i didnt die in that 90 sec.

spam ice wall?

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Tasdik wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

at mac, one question, isnt it op?

Snowshield: one-two crits and ur mana will be f\ucked (depends on mana)
Fan series: lasts 15 sec.

Bless and skins, depends on nothing, last 45sec, with HRD, HC/HO, a warrior cleric is unkillable, i my self wont pvp some1 that would spam them like that.

1. You basically have to get two crits with dare devil to kill an int through snow shield. Assuming that they have semi-decent gear, ofc.

2. With skins out, you can't switch to cleric rod to heal or spam integrity should you get debuffed, without losing skins.

3. Snow shield lasts for what. 2 minutes? Bless lasts for 45ish seconds.

4. If you use snow shield, then fan series/whatever afterwords, you only have to tank for like 15 seconds before you can use snow shield again. Shit is dumb.

wtf are u an idiot or something?
1. u just said that snowshield is not op.
2. ofc u wont, but when they end, u can spam hc/ho, and u wont die.
3. u cant compare snow shield and bless, idiot.
4. 15 sec vs 45.. no really, thats IF u were bicheon user.

Amarisa wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

Amarisa wrote:

Guys stop complaining about the buff skills. 1 They are a complete retard for using both bless and skins at the same time and 2 it's all about having the advantage against your opponent.

With my warrior on Bsro if a warrior skins I kb and bless so I can continue to heal while they can't without canceling their buff. I only use skin when the other person does major dmg and already have a fresh HC on me. It's called strategy

ok im a spear nuker i cant kd or anything, my stuns would work after 20 soul spear and my kb works after 3000000000 ghost spear(kidding), but its still hard ;/, (bless + skins = 90 Sec), which means i only have 30 sec to finish him off, before i get totally buttraped, thats if i didnt die in that 90 sec.

spam ice wall?

true, i guess ill just do that, ;/

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:03 pm

ice wall has like 1 hp compared to firewall. did anyone see this? http://twitter.com/#!/Teamsrevolution wonder how long it takes to set up on a new server?

Obsidian · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:04 pm

If they are using bless and skins in pvp they are noop.
If you can't tank a warrior with a normal weapon with 50%+ snow on you need better gear/blues.

A spear nuker should have something close to 30k HP as a pure int with FB gear, pretty damn hard to kill with snow on.

For those of you who are too lazy to go to the link:
"TeamSrevolution Xsense
bought second dedicated server one to handle the login server, and one for gameserver, included with ddos protection. im not backing down"

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:04 pm

Obsidian wrote:

If they are using bless and skins in pvp they are noop.
If you can't tank a warrior with a normal weapon with 50%+ snow on you need better gear/blues.

A spear nuker should have something close to 30k HP as a pure int with FB gear, pretty damn hard to kill with snow on.

For those of you who are too lazy to go to the link:
"TeamSrevolution Xsense
bought second dedicated server one to handle the login server, and one for gameserver, included with ddos protection. im not backing down"

im pure str i only got 40k hp ><

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

a glavier with a perfect set and devil etc. had ~64k hp

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:07 pm

aww i wont have devil but i can sure try for a nice ass set

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

aww i wont have devil but i can sure try for a nice ass set

Just one thing, + then fb.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Strwarrior wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

aww i wont have devil but i can sure try for a nice ass set

Just one thing, + then fb.

i suck at + lol whats the new +5? a year ago +7 was the new +5 now should i try for what?

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

[TS]=Hark=[TS] wrote:

aww i wont have devil but i can sure try for a nice ass set

Just one thing, + then fb.

i suck at + lol whats the new +5? a year ago +7 was the new +5 now should i try for what?

+4 at least before fbing.

I wonder from where xsense is getting these screenshots of the chat between kingli and victor

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Strwarrior wrote:

Tasdik wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

at mac, one question, isnt it op?

Snowshield: one-two crits and ur mana will be f\ucked (depends on mana)
Fan series: lasts 15 sec.

Bless and skins, depends on nothing, last 45sec, with HRD, HC/HO, a warrior cleric is unkillable, i my self wont pvp some1 that would spam them like that.

1. You basically have to get two crits with dare devil to kill an int through snow shield. Assuming that they have semi-decent gear, ofc.

2. With skins out, you can't switch to cleric rod to heal or spam integrity should you get debuffed, without losing skins.

3. Snow shield lasts for what. 2 minutes? Bless lasts for 45ish seconds.

4. If you use snow shield, then fan series/whatever afterwords, you only have to tank for like 15 seconds before you can use snow shield again. Shit is dumb.

wtf are u an idiot or something?
1. u just said that snowshield is not op.
2. ofc u wont, but when they end, u can spam hc/ho, and u wont die.
3. u cant compare snow shield and bless, idiot.
4. 15 sec vs 45.. no really, thats IF u were bicheon user.

You do realize that it's exceptionally difficult to get a double crit off of one skill? Just the profitability alone is low, then you take into account they could block or interrupt you as well.

You clearly have never been a warrior. Int's hit like a truck. At 100 cap, some s/s int nuker was hitting a warrior for 20k with nukes, and the warrior had a pro set. HC alone can't keep up with the damage, unless you just spam kb/sprint, but then you won't be able to kill them, so GG.

I can and did.

Well yes, s/s is better for killing warriors then spear. That's common knowledge, not my problem.

marijnz0r · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:27 pm

Tasdik wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

wtf are u an idiot or something?
1. u just said that snowshield is not op.
2. ofc u wont, but when they end, u can spam hc/ho, and u wont die.
3. u cant compare snow shield and bless, idiot.
4. 15 sec vs 45.. no really, thats IF u were bicheon user.

You do realize that it's exceptionally difficult to get a double crit off of one skill? Just the profitability alone is low, then you take into account they could block or interrupt you as well.

You clearly have never been a warrior. Int's hit like a truck. At 100 cap, some s/s int nuker was hitting a warrior for 20k with nukes, and the warrior had a pro set. HC alone can't keep up with the damage, unless you just spam kb/sprint, but then you won't be able to kill them, so GG.

I can and did.

Well yes, s/s is better for killing warriors then spear. That's common knowledge, not my problem.

godmode?

XMoshe · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:36 pm

Tasdik wrote:

You do realize that it's exceptionally difficult to get a double crit off of one skill? Just the profitability alone is low, then you take into account they could block or interrupt you as well.

You clearly have never been a warrior. Int's hit like a truck. At 100 cap, some s/s int nuker was hitting a warrior for 20k with nukes, and the warrior had a pro set. HC alone can't keep up with the damage, unless you just spam kb/sprint, but then you won't be able to kill them, so GG.

I can and did.

Well yes, s/s is better for killing warriors then spear. That's common knowledge, not my problem.

You're right, My int spear on isro hit warriors like a beast. But HRD, healing cycle, hp pots and vigor grains are more than enough to heal that up before you can launch a 2nd nuke or finish them off.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

1. Its possible, while killing a warrior in bless and skins is not, also at this cap(im unsure about nova but) ull have higher crit on a nova than a normal weapon which makes it easier.
2. every char i made was a warrior, warlock subbed, in skins alone, equal set between me and a nuker + debuffs he couldnt do shit, and i mean, shit.
3. A nuker hitting 20k on a warrior during 100 cap is normal if he was debuffed. Or a spear nuker with a super spear, and with kd, sprint used correctly ull just be more than fine, vigors too, also as a warrior u have alot of disables to land before he lands his nuke, the time to nuke again is just alot and u are a noob if u dont use it correctly.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can't buy vigors via the npc in dsro, correct?

Assuming that is correct, while it is still possible to obtain vigors, its not as feasible as it is in other versions, where you can spam them 24/7 no problem.

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Xsense said they will be added soon.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Orly?

*makes a warrior/rogue*

Strwarrior wrote:

3. A nuker hitting 20k on a warrior during 100 cap is normal if he was debuffed. Or a spear nuker with a super spear

1. He wasn't debuffed.

2. It was a s/s nuker.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Anyways server will go up soon, from twitter.
And vigors will be added soon.
I have to say that skins were added to make the warrior able to tank in a pro pt where u go 7+ mobs higher than ur lvl, joymax are too stupid to think about pvp.

Ss nuker has debuffs lol, even if not, its set and weapon thingy, not every nuker will hit 20k on a warrior.

[TS]=Hark=[TS] · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2011 7:43 pm

how do i put stuff on consignment? i have to stall?

edit: is anyone online that would want to do fw? how long does it take i have a stone

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