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 Post subject: How to beat CCF on Silkroad online
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:31 pm 
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I didnt totally understand, but i'd share with u though :oops:
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We have contacted Joymax with all our idea.
Yet like many of you realized, no answer.

If we can't get an answer.
Then the probability of a single user to get an answer would be impossible from our point of view. Though we aren't loosing focus and will continue our work.

How to beat CCF on silkroad online:

http://www.silkroadonline.net/itemmall/ ... istory.asp

This is the silk charge history on your account.

[Total Silk charged this month]
[Remaining purchased Silk]
[Remaining Silk gift]
[Total current remaining Silk]

We believe that Silkroad should TAG silk item and silk with a timestamps. If the silk purchased can't be charged back since it been more then 1 month someone bought them, those silk should become transferable.
Basically you can use those silk to use the feature Silk gift.

If you bought some silk and the same day you buy some global chat. Those global chat should be timestamps so that you can't transfer them until the timestamps expire.
In other word, after 30 days of the silk purchase date, those global chat would become transferable.

The use of this method will greatly increase Joymax income since people will now be able to buy silk from joymax and to give them to other people inside the game using silkroad method to transfer silk.

As for the +immortal and +astral, when they are used an an item if the timestamps isn't expired, the timestamps of the +immortal should be transfered to the item.

Basically if you buy silk today and buy a +immortal and use it on your weapon, this weapon won't be able to be transfered from 1 user to another for 30 days, after the 30 days, the item can be transfered.

Only thing left for CCF is the use of Global chat. Silkroad can choose what to do for this, using a need to be level 20 or higher would be an option but wouldn't be appreciated by the legit community.

If you buy silk today and don't use them, 30 days later the timestamps expire and you buy a monkey, that monkey will gain the timestamps of the silk which is expired which mean that you can trade the monkey with other players.

Does Joymax really want to increase there income or not?
Not to be against but this feature as been given away by me 5-6 months ago about 3 times.
I even said it to a GM while I was in the silk-assistant.
I didn't knew how much work it needed for it to be done but now i have a better understanding of how the game work then 6 month ago.

I know it can be done, so request Korean tech team to wake up and to start working on it.
I know you have a lot of project open simultaneously, but this project is beneficial for both end, Joymax, there customer and there consumer.

Even your CEO said it:

We look forward to your endless support in the future and will put our best efforts to cope with the demands of customers and consumers in terms of the quality and the service of Joymax products!

We hope that this isn't the first time that Joymax Korean Tech team will hear about this news.
Since this request was made a long time ago and the GM at that time said that it has been sent to Joymax Korea and they would decide about it.

If I was Joymax I wouldn't necessarily put too much pressure on bot, though I don't understand why the request against CCF hasn't been accepted.

Only thing I can see is that programmer looked at the request and said, smart but I don't fell like programming it, complicated.

If any manager making money on the game or if any CEO would have read that request, you would of stopped all your project and worked on this feature right away.

CCF development until now, made the buy silk item with level restriction for Astral and immortal. Yet still possible to credit card fraud them, it just require to loose a high level.

Anyway, let see what our community has to say about this. Those flaming about bot should agree with us on this subject.
Why?!?

I know that a few bot use CCF but they are rare.
A LOT of customer and consumer want to have the 'SILK GIFT' enabled and want to be able to trade monkey item and time service ticket to gain more experience for 3 hours per day for in game gold like it used to be at the beginning. Which is supported and follow the TOS since it's a trade made from silkroad to silkroad and no real money profit is made outside Silkroad except for Joymax.

If Joymax get to hear us,
I hope you can send a little
we heard you answer eventually.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:34 pm 
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?? didnt joymax already defeat CCF with that astral update thing?

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I'm guess this is so items and can be transferable and silk can be gifted. The idea seems good, but I'm sure there is some way around them. Plus JM needs to get rid of the bots before worrying about making silk items transferable.

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nycxfool wrote:
?? didnt joymax already defeat CCF with that astral update thing?
No they just postponed it for the ccfer's. Go on babel and ask 0oCondoHP0o about this. :banghead: Last time I checked his stall was full of multi astral/immortal gear.

I must say these ideas are really good. Would actually make it impossible to ccf at all. Go NeDra! Down with people like condo!

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Hum another rev6 post ^^
I wounder if Joymax Korea will get to listen to it though...

It's pretty simple though not as easy to make but could be done...
Yet I'm sure making silk item transferable would make Joymax gain more money...


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The astral update is practically worthless when Joymax doesn't ban bots. You can bot up a whole bunch of astral-ers with the clientless bot all at the same time. Even if one gets banned, who cares?

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I think its a good idea with timestamps.

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Bakemaster wrote:
The astral update is practically worthless when Joymax doesn't ban bots. You can bot up a whole bunch of astral-ers with the clientless bot all at the same time. Even if one gets banned, who cares?


the "who cares" part is getting kinda out of hand these days.
nymble has been warning silkroadonline.net for a long time before the whole frontpage message, but the only thing that actually made joymax wake up was that silly message while the damage overall was a lot larger than posting a message on their own site to finally waking them up that their security is messed up.
i do hope Joymax listen this time and actually starts to care, things might get out of hand on a larger scale.


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Bakemaster wrote:
The astral update is practically worthless when Joymax doesn't ban bots. You can bot up a whole bunch of astral-ers with the clientless bot all at the same time. Even if one gets banned, who cares?


Yea really.

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 Post subject: ok...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:35 am 
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call me noob but, what the fu** does CCF mean?

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 Post subject: Re: ok...
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AudioHavok80 wrote:
call me noob but, what the fu** does CCF mean?

credit card fraud

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Bakemaster wrote:
The astral update is practically worthless when Joymax doesn't ban bots. You can bot up a whole bunch of astral-ers with the clientless bot all at the same time. Even if one gets banned, who cares?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:02 am 
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ppl still ccf globals...especially hackers :(


dude i want gift silk to work :x

i got so much fans out there with only 5 silk sitting there waiting to be used

hello JM give us gift option pls :(

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I like the idea idk..


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Nice Idea ^^ hope JM Listens ^^

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I like to be able to gift silk... I mean with the time stamp you'd really think twice on giving silk, coz you waited for a month for the time stamp to expire. This feature would really make it a "gift" to the person your going to give it too. The person gifted will say, "Ooooh, you let this e-silk sit in your account for a month just for me? Thank you so much!". That's what I think, makes the game a genuine experience. :)


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I think it's a great idea. These changes, with the timestamps and all, would really help make it so they could enable the silk gift feature. I think more people would buy more silk knowing they can gift it to other people. I personally don't buy silk because I feel I don't need it and it would be more beneficial to me to spend my money on my wife and daughter (and morgage and bills....) but other people might not buy it because they can't. Some users don't have a credit card or paypal or whatever. So silk gifts would be good for them.

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