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									 Post subject: how joymax know that he bought money?  Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:29 am   | 
				 
				 
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						 my friend got ban,and he dident used a bot,he bought gold.
 so my question is how do they know that he bought gold? 
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									 Post subject: Re: how joymax know that he bought money?  Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:56 am   | 
				 
				 
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						ilovetibet wrote: my friend got ban,and he dident used a bot,he bought gold. so my question is how do they know that he bought gold? 
Suspicious transactions of large amounts of gold?*shrug*  
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									 Post subject: Re: how joymax know that he bought money?  Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:57 am   | 
				 
				 
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						ilovetibet wrote: my friend got ban,and he dident used a bot,he bought gold. so my question is how do they know that he bought gold? 
ask him when he loges on the sro site... what reason is there...  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:59 am   | 
				 
				 
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						 @DeathAngel1986
 
 He is saying that he didnt bot, but he did buy gold. However, how did JM know? and Nyahahaha, are you sure it was your "friend" that got banned? lol 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:11 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						Key-J wrote: @DeathAngel1986
  He is saying that he didnt bot, but he did buy gold. However, how did JM know? and Nyahahaha, are you sure it was your "friend" that got banned? lol 
yeah... but when you get banned and try to log on the oficial site... you'll get a message with the reson for the ban... and if you get illigal program that isn't for gold buying for shure    
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:13 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 i am still wondering, how do they know that ?, unless.... 
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						heroo wrote: i am still wondering, how do they know that ?, unless.... They don't give great customer service, but they have eyes like god....    
					
  
						
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:55 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						heroo wrote: i am still wondering, how do they know that ?, unless.... 
.....they're the ones who sell gold by running gold bots and....  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:17 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						 Either way i doubt anyone will help him since we dont care if anything ppl who play sro are glad you got banned you shouldnt buy gold 
 cuz 
 goldbuying=more bots
 more gold=expensive items being bought like nothing
 expensive items being bought like nothing=prices not lowering
 prices not lowering=ppl needing more gold
 ppl needing more gold=goldbuying
 goldbuying=more bots 
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						 Joymax must have some kind of statistics page where they can see stuff like:
 
 * Highest lvl
 * Most gold
 * Latest large transactions
 
 
 Etc Etc. 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:23 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						w00t wrote: Joymax must have some kind of statistics page where they can see stuff like:
  * Highest lvl * Most gold * Latest large transactions
 
  Etc Etc. They also probably have a stat page with how long someone grinds for, vs down time between mobs.  Not to mention suspicious programming running in the background.  That don't seem to matter though. xP  
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						Zero_Doom wrote: w00t wrote: Joymax must have some kind of statistics page where they can see stuff like:
  * Highest lvl * Most gold * Latest large transactions
 
  Etc Etc. They also probably have a stat page with how long someone grinds for, vs down time between mobs.  Not to mention suspicious programming running in the background.  That don't seem to matter though. xP  
And Zero_Doom. If they dont have these pages, then they are ...... <--- fill in the dots urself  
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:37 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						w00t wrote: Zero_Doom wrote: w00t wrote: Joymax must have some kind of statistics page where they can see stuff like:
  * Highest lvl * Most gold * Latest large transactions
 
  Etc Etc. They also probably have a stat page with how long someone grinds for, vs down time between mobs.  Not to mention suspicious programming running in the background.  That don't seem to matter though. xP And Zero_Doom. If they dont have these pages, then they are ...... <--- fill in the dots urself Lol, there are so many words that could fit there.  
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						 Well ppl do give away cash so they couldnt do it by large transaction 
 and simple way to get around it would eb stall a pill for the amount your getting 
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						babasa wrote: "my friend" thats probebly you    omg... you figured that out by yourself?     
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						 Why is this question seems rocket science to you?  A great many online games have a very easy way of tracking gold exchange, it's totally easy to track the exchanger himself, why too much gold given and nothing received, pops up red flags easily.
 
 Buying gold is illegal, using bots is illegal, it kills the game, it kills every online games.  SRO isn't quite up to par with other online games out there when it comes to tracking gold sellers but I'm sure that will slowly change.
 
 As far as bots are concerned, they are the scum of all online games, you grind very hard, you are legit and you see some scum training near you, he comes and kills your target and moves right away to another and another and another, and then you slowly realize that, it's not a player, it's a moron low lifer who's cheating his way up the game.
 
 Usually, pretty much 95% of those lamers are guys, funny how many guys are lamers, can't play by the book and yet, you have guys clinging to this notion of honor?  Weird... where's the honor in cheating?
 
 I'm glad your friend was banned, I hope many more of your friends are banned and you too if you buy gold also.  Clean the game, make it fair for everyone to play it.
 
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 "Well ppl do give away cash so they couldnt do it by large transaction
 and simple way to get around it would eb stall a pill for the amount your getting"
 
 No, actually, there is no easy way, however you see it, the exchanges, even masked, are easily traceable.  It's all about mathematics, numbers are very easy to track in online games.  You can redflag a player, from that moment on, you can easily track all the exchanges that player does with anyone, it's a minute to sort out the real traders from the gold sellers, and there you are, a ban on the receiver but you can keep the exchanger alive so you can punish even more receivers, wicked, but effective at showing players that, whatever levels they are, they will eventually be caught if they cheat. 
												
  
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						FluxFire wrote: Why is this question seems rocket science to you?  A great many online games have a very easy way of tracking gold exchange, it's totally easy to track the exchanger himself, why too much gold given and nothing received, pops up red flags easily.
  Buying gold is illegal, using bots is illegal, it kills the game, it kills every online games.  SRO isn't quite up to par with other online games out there when it comes to tracking gold sellers but I'm sure that will slowly change.
  As far as bots are concerned, they are the scum of all online games, you grind very hard, you are legit and you see some scum training near you, he comes and kills your target and moves right away to another and another and another, and then you slowly realize that, it's not a player, it's a moron low lifer who's cheating his way up the game.
  Usually, pretty much 95% of those lamers are guys, funny how many guys are lamers, can't play by the book and yet, you have guys clinging to this notion of honor?  Weird... where's the honor in cheating?
  I'm glad your friend was banned, I hope many more of your friends are banned and you too if you buy gold also.  Clean the game, make it fair for everyone to play it. 
Maybe You Need Drink Your thinking a tad bit to much about just a game  
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						 Wtf kind of lame reply is that?  If you're the kind of lamer that consider it cool to cheat, then so be it.  I'm the kind of player that thinks it's the loser way of going up levels.
 
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									 Post subject:   Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:13 pm   | 
				 
				 
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						FluxFire wrote: Wtf kind of lame reply is that?  If you're the kind of lamer that consider it cool to cheat, then so be it.  I'm the kind of player that thinks it's the loser way of going up levels.
  Next time, instead of spamming a thread with out-of-topic replies, actually reply to the ideas, opinions I put forth, don't spam with needless replies. 
well seriously cheating is gay in Multi player but dont take it to far
 ppl arent dying about it 
 ppl arent hurting cuz of it and if you are then maybe you need to take it down a bit  
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						Silver0 wrote: well seriously cheating is gay in Multi player but dont take it to far ppl arent dying about it  ppl arent hurting cuz of it and if you are then maybe you need to take it down a bit 
I'm not quite sure I'm following you there, does it state somewhere in my post that someone is about to die because of cheating?  Does it state anywhere also that someone is hurting because of cheating?
 What I stated ... at least I think I did... is that cheating eventually leads to getting banned, however a person wants to see this.  Buying gold is illegal, it doesn't kill anyone, it doesn't hurt a person physically, it hurts players on the basis that it gives a unfair advantage to some against others.  That's it.
 Now, if someone's life is based on online gaming, if they are ready to die because they are suddenly banned, that's a serious problem also.  But, I doubt that is what my reply was about?  
					
  
						
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						 I have 2 suppositions :
 1. They used their trojan horse to survey u
 2. They used data check. They can check who u exchanged with (gold bot always has name like gkdhfh) for a suspicious number of gold (like 10M, 20M, 30M...). Or they can check your conversation with the bot... 
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						 jm can find out who seller is by posing as buyer .. then track selling transactions. 
					
  
						
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						 gold buying in sro is a far bigger crime in my view than player bots.
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									 Post subject: Re: how joymax know that he bought money?  Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:00 am   | 
				 
				 
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						ilovetibet wrote: my friend got ban,and he dident used a bot,he bought gold. so my question is how do they know that he bought gold? 
That is NOT allowed    
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