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Do u think Global Warming is a Huge Issue
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Ok do u guys believe that Global Warming is a HUGE issue and that we contribute to it way to much....

I think that we contribute to it some....i dont think that Global Warming is that big of a issue....there are other things that are more important that we should spend money on.....who cares about global warming....its going to happen if it wants and there is no way to really stop it.....But again i dont think that its even a big issue....

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I think people need to stop driving SUV's and Ford F-150's if they dont need to. My friend's dad drives a truck because of his job.


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You know what else is a problem. Ethanol. Lets make oil out of corn which makes corn farmers rich, make dairy products go up in price, have a new alternative to gasoline that burns better but is 5x worse to make. Where was gobal warming 9 years ago? Where was all this gas talk and we gonna die before the US invaded Iraq? You know what global warming is? It's a damn fad. We always had global warming, now people are just jumping on the band wagon to make some $$$.


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I give a rats ass about it, if something happens cause of that, or the north pole melting im already gone :)

But yes its a threat for the future, we need cars on electricity and use less sorts of chemical shit to damage the atmosphere.

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I think people need to stop driving SUV's and Ford F-150's if they dont need to. My friend's dad drives a truck because of his job.


+1.
Don't go around driving an Escalade if the only reason is "'cause you's a playah." :P


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one thing at a time, fossile fuels is the MOST problematic atm because when we run out EVERYONE!! will suffer, global warming can wait, we cant solve global warming w/o food (tractors, delivery trucks give us the food)


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I think people need to stop driving SUV's and Ford F-150's if they dont need to. My friend's dad drives a truck because of his job.


+1.
Don't go around driving an Escalade if the only reason is "'cause you's a playah." :P


Why pick on trucks? Why not those mercedes and sports cars?


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In my honest honest opinion .. i think 'Global Warming' is a scam or a conspiracy set up by the governments.

Ok before you say omg what a flarking idiot. Apart from some gay ass so called photo's what proof do we have? Oh the polar caps are melting .. yeah studies show the been melting since forever basically.

All it is in my opinion is a way for the governments to keep us 'people' from having too much fun. They live their lives with fancy Jets flying from country to country ..... they have their massive convoy's of cars etc etc. it's all bullshit ... If the world is getting that much hotter ... how come we had snow last month in Britain ?

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We have just come through some of the most active sunspot years on record. (Tough on ass-tronaughts' eyeballs - causes radiation cataracts) The solar constant is larger given lots of sunspots (surrounding areas called faculae glow brighter). Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn are showing minor temp rises. It looks like years of peak sunspot activity may be followed by years of attenuated activity, like in the 1950s and 60s. Go back and look - an impending ice age was Officially upon us.


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The ocean is the single largest absorber of carbon dioxide, where does it go? Why wouldn't ice do the same over an extended period of time? I have yet to see a study that says carbon dioxide levels in ice will "not" change over time, here's proof. If industry drives Global warming, that is going to push use into an ice age, who's to blame for the last one. Oh and the one before that. Did the dinosaurs drive SUVs?


Oh and if you still disagree ... Uhmmm wonder how many people drive cars and such on Mars ...

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003 ... thpole.htm

Seeing as their caps are melting slowly ...


As a sort of conclusion .. I think this is just some scam to make it easier for world leaders to tell us what to do. They tell us in 100 years we will all be dead cause the planet will be un-livable etc etc ... So we obey it .. spendign more and more money on 'green electricity' 'Cleaner cars' 'Bus rides instead of 30 people driving to work' The list goes on. I may be crazy ... but it adds up ^^

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FFS not a globalwarming thread.

Yes there is global warning. It's hard to deny that.
The real question is: who's resposible for it.
We did our part but don't think we're not the only ones.
The earth has know rises and fall of temperature before us.
Solar acitivity, the distance between the sun and the earth,....

Anyway I'm probably be dead before my country floods. And if it floods I'll be far enough to not drown. The city I study at will lie at the sea.
My northern neighbours will have more problems.


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not too much a big deal :D but dont leave much for ur imagination :(

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Theres like 50 threads about this, use the search button plz

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Theres like 50 threads about this, use the search button plz


WTF....i did....i typed in Global Warming and the first page of topics had nothing to do with it so i made one lol

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Here is some stuff....i kno its long but it doesnt take long to read :D

The heavy breathing over global warming is enough to terrify anyone.

Last week the Washington Post interviewed a 9-year-old who said the Earth is "just starting to fade away." In 20 years there will be "no oxygen" he said, and he'll be dead. The Post went on to say that "for many children and young adults, global warming is…defining their generation." How sad.

But is the global warming crisis a myth? Read on.

Excerpts from "Myth, Lies, and Downright Stupidity," coming out in paperback May 1. (Click here to buy "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity").

MYTH: Global warming will cause huge disruptions in climate, more storms, and the coasts will flood! America must sign the Kyoto Treaty!

This has to be broken into four pieces.

MYTH No. 1: The Earth is warming!

TRUTH: The Earth is warming. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said the global average surface temperature increased about 0.6 degrees Celsius over the 20th century.

MYTH No. 2: The Earth is warming because of us!

TRUTH: Maybe. The frantic media suggest it's all about us. But the IPCC only said it is likely that we have increased the warming.

Our climate has always undergone changes. Greenland was named Greenland because its coasts used to be very green. It's presumptuous to think humans' impact matters so much in comparison to the frightening geologic history of the earth. And who is to say that last year's temperature is the perfect optimum? Warmer may be better! More people die in cold waves than heat waves.

MYTH No. 3: There will be storms, flooded coasts and huge disruptions in climate!

TRUTH: There are always storms and floods. Will there be much bigger disruptions in climate? Probably not.

Schoolchildren I've interviewed were convinced that America is "dying" in a sea of pollution and that "cities will soon be under water!"

Lawyers from the Natural Resources Defense Council (another environmental group with more lawyers than scientists) warn that "sea levels will rise, flooding coastal areas. Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense. Droughts and wildfires will occur more often."

Wow.

But many scientists laugh at the panic.

Dr. John Christy, professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Alabama at Huntsville said: "I remember as a college student at the first Earth Day being told it was a certainty that by the year 2000, the world would be starving and out of energy. Such doomsday prophecies grabbed headlines, but have proven to be completely false." "Similar pronouncements today about catastrophes due to human-induced climate change," he continued, "sound all too familiar and all too exaggerated to me as someone who actually produces and analyzes climate information."

The media, of course, like the exaggerated claims. Most are based on computer models that purport to predict future climates. But computer models are lousy at predicting climate because water vapor and cloud effects cause changes that computers fail to predict. In the mid-1970s, computer models told us we should prepare for global cooling.

Scientists tell reporters that computer models should "be viewed with great skepticism." Well, why aren't they?

The fundamentalist doom mongers also ignore scientists who say the effects of global warming may be benign. Harvard astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas said added CO2 in the atmosphere may actually benefit the world because more CO2 helps plants grow. Warmer winters would give farmers a longer harvest season, and might end the droughts in the Sahara Desert.

Why don't we hear about this part of the global warming argument? "It's the money!" said Dr. Baliunas. "Twenty-five billion dollars in government funding has been spent since 1990 to research global warming. If scientists and researchers were coming out releasing reports that global warming has little to do with man, and most to do with just how the planet works, there wouldn't be as much money to study it."

MYTH No. 4: Signing the Kyoto Treaty would stop the warming.

TRUTH: Hardly.

In 1997, the United Nations met in Kyoto, Japan, and asked the developed nations of the world to cut CO2 emission to below 1990 levels.

more at http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3061015&page=1

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i dont think that Global Warming is that big of a issue....there are other things that are more important that we should spend money on.....who cares about global warming....its going to happen if it wants and there is no way to really stop it


I really disagree, If everybody just let it happen without changing our ways of dealing with our unique (this is the only planet we can live on still, we have yet to discover a reachable planet we can use with such a 'human-based' environment, and even though we could colonize mars or the moon we dont have all the nesseccay materials to stay alive over a longer period there) planet we will end up regretting it and our future generations will hate us for being foolish. Even if global warming isnt true and not happening I still think we should change our animalistic and careless ways of 'using' our planet.

We can easily (we HAVE the technology) change our ways to a more environment and animal fiendly way, with windmills, electric cars less polution and what not.

Im too tired to state more arguements ATM, Peace out *yawn*

edit; even though there are many other problems and things we have to deal with I still think global warming should be stopped before it is too late. The facts are there.

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Here is some stuff....i kno its long but it doesnt take long to read :D

The heavy breathing over global warming is enough to terrify anyone.

Last week the Washington Post interviewed a 9-year-old who said the Earth is "just starting to fade away." In 20 years there will be "no oxygen" he said, and he'll be dead. The Post went on to say that "for many children and young adults, global warming is…defining their generation." How sad.

But is the global warming crisis a myth? Read on.

Excerpts from "Myth, Lies, and Downright Stupidity," coming out in paperback May 1. (Click here to buy "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity").

MYTH: Global warming will cause huge disruptions in climate, more storms, and the coasts will flood! America must sign the Kyoto Treaty!

This has to be broken into four pieces.

MYTH No. 1: The Earth is warming!

TRUTH: The Earth is warming. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said the global average surface temperature increased about 0.6 degrees Celsius over the 20th century.

MYTH No. 2: The Earth is warming because of us!

TRUTH: Maybe. The frantic media suggest it's all about us. But the IPCC only said it is likely that we have increased the warming.

Our climate has always undergone changes. Greenland was named Greenland because its coasts used to be very green. It's presumptuous to think humans' impact matters so much in comparison to the frightening geologic history of the earth. And who is to say that last year's temperature is the perfect optimum? Warmer may be better! More people die in cold waves than heat waves.

MYTH No. 3: There will be storms, flooded coasts and huge disruptions in climate!

TRUTH: There are always storms and floods. Will there be much bigger disruptions in climate? Probably not.

Schoolchildren I've interviewed were convinced that America is "dying" in a sea of pollution and that "cities will soon be under water!"

Lawyers from the Natural Resources Defense Council (another environmental group with more lawyers than scientists) warn that "sea levels will rise, flooding coastal areas. Heat waves will be more frequent and more intense. Droughts and wildfires will occur more often."

Wow.

But many scientists laugh at the panic.

Dr. John Christy, professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Alabama at Huntsville said: "I remember as a college student at the first Earth Day being told it was a certainty that by the year 2000, the world would be starving and out of energy. Such doomsday prophecies grabbed headlines, but have proven to be completely false." "Similar pronouncements today about catastrophes due to human-induced climate change," he continued, "sound all too familiar and all too exaggerated to me as someone who actually produces and analyzes climate information."

The media, of course, like the exaggerated claims. Most are based on computer models that purport to predict future climates. But computer models are lousy at predicting climate because water vapor and cloud effects cause changes that computers fail to predict. In the mid-1970s, computer models told us we should prepare for global cooling.

Scientists tell reporters that computer models should "be viewed with great skepticism." Well, why aren't they?

The fundamentalist doom mongers also ignore scientists who say the effects of global warming may be benign. Harvard astrophysicist Sallie Baliunas said added CO2 in the atmosphere may actually benefit the world because more CO2 helps plants grow. Warmer winters would give farmers a longer harvest season, and might end the droughts in the Sahara Desert.

Why don't we hear about this part of the global warming argument? "It's the money!" said Dr. Baliunas. "Twenty-five billion dollars in government funding has been spent since 1990 to research global warming. If scientists and researchers were coming out releasing reports that global warming has little to do with man, and most to do with just how the planet works, there wouldn't be as much money to study it."

MYTH No. 4: Signing the Kyoto Treaty would stop the warming.

TRUTH: Hardly.

In 1997, the United Nations met in Kyoto, Japan, and asked the developed nations of the world to cut CO2 emission to below 1990 levels.

more at http://www.abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=3061015&page=1

As convincing as that may sound, it's only one side of the story so obviously if read what opponents feel, you'll start agreeing with them.


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Is it happening?
Yes.
Is it our fault?
Possibly.

Honestly, I'm more worried about the destruction of the rain forest in South America. See the world can take a few punches and keep ticking. But with the rain forest shrinking in size our "fixer" is no longer able to do the job. Eventually, we will ..... up earth. Its not a matter of if, but rather when.

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K here is my opinion

This is not our world
if anything i think ppl who worry about it to much are self centered and need to realized the cycle of life where a millisecond to the earth and look at what we done to it if anything we deserver it and Buying an SUV or a Sports Car doesnt change the world so stop lying to yourself, that very same selfish attitude has ruined us... let a new species take over if its a flame plant hey so be it

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I think people need to stop driving SUV's and Ford F-150's if they dont need to. My friend's dad drives a truck because of his job.


+1.
Don't go around driving an Escalade if the only reason is "'cause you's a playah." :P


LOL.

u guys probably want all to drive hybrid cars?
let me tell you.. the batteries of the toyota prius pollute the earth
more than the exhaust gasses of a hummer.

the batteries are not recyclable and will not be compost if they break down.

and im now driving a nissan patrol. yes a big car. it runs on gas, LPG.


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MastaChiefX wrote:
Is it happening?
Yes.
Is it our fault?
Possibly.

Honestly, I'm more worried about the destruction of the rain forest in South America. See the world can take a few punches and keep ticking. But with the rain forest shrinking in size our "fixer" is no longer able to do the job. Eventually, we will ..... up earth. Its not a matter of if, but rather when.



Errrr .. you do know our oceans are the biggest and most important supplier of O2 ?

Been many studies that show it would not matter if every tree in the world got cut down. The ocean's still supply us with more than enough. ofcourse .... trees look good so hippies want them kept.

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MastaChiefX wrote:
Is it happening?
Yes.
Is it our fault?
Possibly.

Honestly, I'm more worried about the destruction of the rain forest in South America. See the world can take a few punches and keep ticking. But with the rain forest shrinking in size our "fixer" is no longer able to do the job. Eventually, we will ..... up earth. Its not a matter of if, but rather when.



Errrr .. you do know our oceans are the biggest and most important supplier of O2 ?


then isnt it a good thing that the icecaps melt and our oceans get bigger?

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then isnt it a good thing that the icecaps melt and our oceans get bigger?

:P


Like everything it has it's pros and cons ^^

Even more O2 output .. all tho we'd have less land too inhabit ^^

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ok so lets say the earth is doomed.

anybody got any opinions about living on the moon/mars/whatever?

i saw total recall again yesterday. soo i say life on mars is possible 8)


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if the temp of sea water rises another 3 degrees, there will be no living coral at all. You can see it in Egypt already, I was there last fall, no living coral to find.

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if the temp of sea water rises another 3 degrees, there will be no living coral at all. You can see it in Egypt already, I was there last fall, no living coral to find.


ima see if the barrier reef still lives :D


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omg listen to Al Gore! :P


lol i had to watch they movie A Inconvient Truth by him....it was so funny....he went off topic so many times and told stories that had nothing to do with global warming

Also there saying that a lot of polar bears are drowning to death because all the ice is melting and then they have to swim way farther to find ice and then they get to tired and drown to death

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Do I think its happening? Yes.
Do I think its happening as rapidly as people such as Al Gore are saying? No.
Do we need to act? Yes, before its way too late.

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Al Gore compared People to a Frog....

here was is example: If u put a frog into water and then start to slowly boil the water the frog will just sit there until it dies because of the slow increase of danger/temperature. He said humans are like that. that we wont do anything cause its such a slow gradually hardly noticeable danger that is slowly increasing.....

thought that was kind of a stupid comparision....whats a frogs IQ :D
i mean if we knew we were in danger we would do something....were not that stupid

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Al Gore compared People to a Frog....

here was is example: If u put a frog into water and then start to slowly boil the water the frog will just sit there until it dies because of the slow increase of danger/temperature. He said humans are like that. that we wont do anything cause its such a slow gradually hardly noticeable danger that is slowly increasing.....

thought that was kind of a stupid comparision....whats a frogs IQ :D
i mean if we knew we were in danger we would do something....were not that stupid


But most people don't realize it, like the frog

I think thats the point :)

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