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Thanks Twelve! :D

Looks like the # of Wind2 elements makes it a wash.
What about the amount of other elements you get between Tasset and Blade? Still a wash?

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hey, first off, i think this guide is great, not many people would share if they found out things like this :love:

2nd - i tried this tonight, 500 rondos, made around 1000 of each element.
the wind 2 was really easy to sell. but the rest of it was impossible, at any price, even like, 100 per unit to sell. Even fire 2 didnt sell, and i'm told that can sell for 700-1000 :|

Is there something else i can do with these other 7 elements, or am I not selling in the right place? NPCing them seems a waste. :headbang:

Any tips?

edit: wind 1 and water 2 just sold, but in fairness, at like 200-300 a piece, what can you expect?
-still all in profit though ^_^ -

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did u try dw and hotan stalling for 100 each? wind lvl is sold for 500 each on athens so i quess u shoud try selling it in dw if u already tryed it all then im sry but no tips this time(i cant hink of any) if some1 has alternite solution plz post as this is would be also usefull info
p.s. tnx for compliments means a lot :love:

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Well fire 2 and wind 2 can be sold easily at hotan, but as for other elements resulted from the 2nd blade, they prob better off at Jangan or Dongwan.


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THX FOR GUIDE!!!!...now to make some money...

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water 2 are used in large amounts in wind and MP tablets 5D so they sell sometimes for a decent price. Might as well fill the rest of the spots in your stall with em lol. Wind 3 sells very well at 700-750 each too. And it's not worth your time to sell wind 2 above 2.5 cuz more than half of buyers won't pay it and the faster you sell out, the faster you can make more so you're actually losing money over time by pricing them higher.

Just my little additions to the guide to help ya get that extra little bit of gold :D oh and 1 more hint lol..
my way kicks this way's ass. I've all out scrambled for lvl 42 SOS spear money making and selling elements my way for the last 3 days and made 27 million total so far :) don't expect a guide any time soon though cuz the more ppl that do it, the less I make lol.

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Hi Folks! :)

Here's some info from a rather small, but not insignificant sample size:

Bought 50 lvl8 blades and 50 lvl12 male tassets, + the 100 destroyer rondo

Destroyed the blades got:
Earth1(120) Fire1(60) Water1(96) Wind1(93)
Earth2(127) Fire2(137) Water2(113) Wind2(121)

Destroyed the tassets got:
Earth1(84) Fire1(71) Water1(89) Wind1(90)
Earth2(80) Fire2(109) Water2(115) Wind2(130)

Used the following prices (on Xian) for elements:
Earth1(175) Fire1(100) Water1(200) Wind1(250)
Earth2(300) Fire2(500) Water2(400) Wind2(1800)

Cost of 50 blades w/ rondo = $195000
Cost of 50 tassets w/ rondo = $170000

Return of blades: $439050
Return of tassets: $420600

Profit on blades = return - cost = $244050
Profit on tassets = return - cost = $250600

Based on these results only, tassets will work equally as well as blades.

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twarg1 wrote:
Hi Folks! :)

Here's some info from a rather small, but not insignificant sample size:

Bought 50 lvl8 blades and 50 lvl12 male tassets, + the 100 destroyer rondo

Destroyed the blades got:
Earth1(120) Fire1(60) Water1(96) Wind1(93)
Earth2(127) Fire2(137) Water2(113) Wind2(121)

Destroyed the tassets got:
Earth1(84) Fire1(71) Water1(89) Wind1(90)
Earth2(80) Fire2(109) Water2(115) Wind2(130)

Used the following prices (on Xian) for elements:
Earth1(175) Fire1(100) Water1(200) Wind1(250)
Earth2(300) Fire2(500) Water2(400) Wind2(1800)

Cost of 50 blades w/ rondo = $195000
Cost of 50 tassets w/ rondo = $170000

Return of blades: $439050
Return of tassets: $420600

Profit on blades = return - cost = $244050
Profit on tassets = return - cost = $250600

Based on these results only, tassets will work equally as well as blades.

Thanks,
twarg1 8)

wow ty for takeing time to do this :love: and can i put this info in my guide if there is need for it?
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u are realy something special u know(not in a good way) :banghead:
if u want to post replyes of that kind plz in future do not post here i realy dont need supreme arogance and childish behavior in this guide
gl whit your ego and bye :P

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After making blades, -1m because of wind1's, I had about 2.2m:

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Ended with, -5m that was a friends but i got back 4m anyway after selling elements i had in inventory:

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kevv this is only for lower lvls.. Lvl 40+ is just wasting time doing this.. when lvl 38+ so to speak you make more profit just by grinding.. And you also gain more xp..

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kevv this is only for lower lvls.. Lvl 40+ is just wasting time doing this.. when lvl 38+ so to speak you make more profit just by grinding.. And you also gain more xp..

Using this method I bought my sos set, I really don't wanna grind with the bots at bungwangs so I bought some good gear to go to the ujjigis. You can't make 10m a day just by grinding either =/

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kevv this is only for lower lvls.. Lvl 40+ is just wasting time doing this.. when lvl 38+ so to speak you make more profit just by grinding.. And you also gain more xp..
in 99% of cases i would agree
but kevv is in that 1%... why?
1. He has patience like no1 i ever seen
2. he is on Tibet and if info i have is correct Tibet has highest prices for elements( if not he has to be among first 3 severs :twisted: ) so as he said he can use this
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im glad u dont have to gind whit bots m8 :wink: and im proude that this guide helped u as much as it did :oops:

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mugen check pm again. i sent you something you might want to read ;)


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Invested 1m into this last night, and after a nights stalling, came away with 2.5m

tyvm mugen :D

I do find it quite slow though, but might be coz i ended up with 1k wind 2 :$

I am now quite confused that i can sell elements, but not +3 shields and sos things xD

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this guide can do that to a man LOL and ur wc(welcome)
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i did now check yours :wink:

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this guide can do that to a man LOL and ur wc(welcome)
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i did now check yours :wink:


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Mugen,

No problem adding the info I collected into your guide. Glad to be of some help!

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this is quite ingenious ^_^


cant u also do it with lvl 8 prot hands...i think not sure

well ty very much :oops:
and about hands you can it gives 2~3 wind lvl 2 but sucsess rate is about 30% so not any profit in it

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tnx again m8 will add it as recomended item for use

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Nice guide dude ^^ wish i knew about it on my first char lol.

@Desolator: u really arnt the sharpest tool in the shed are yah.
Price = Demand
Low supply = High Demand = High Price
High Supply = Low Demand = Low Price
How is pumping more wind 2 into the economy increasing the prices.
Please think befor you post ^_^


fck, nows the wind2 price is drop, it is pretty obvious that this si not rocket science and can be figured out pretty easily for someone with a bit of common sense

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fck, nows the wind2 price is drop, it is pretty obvious that this si not rocket science and can be figured out pretty easily for someone with a bit of common sense

noobs will be noobs sigh*

agreed this is not rocket sience and yeah u need common sence to figer this out
but i disagree whit last one this still helped a lot of people noobs or no noobs there are 39 people that said this helped them meaby they didnt think of this but they will use it wisely i hope
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4got to ty for info about msgs i didnt know that

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where is the best place to sell tat wind lvl 2, jangan, hotan, or dw


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in my guide there is section called "6.SOME ADVICES"
read advice number 2... :roll:

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i havent tried this out yet.....but how much profit can u make off making around 1k wind 2

depends on server prices between 1,5~2,5k each wind lvl2 thats about 1,5~2,5 mill for 1 k of wind lvl 2...+ other elements u get from this and wind lvl1 has usual price of 500~1k gold each and u get about same amount of him and wind lvl 2 also u get about 1mill of gold for ALL other elements.so u get very nice sum of gold from it

P.S. if your question was for wind lvl2 ONLY...then just read top of my reply

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Added to the links to usefull guides topic for great guide and quick replies/updates

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:shock: :shock: TY very very much :D im honored

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Hi Everyone! :)

I realize some of us are concerned this technique will drop the price of Wind2, and at some point maybe so, but let me say that on Xian, I have been selling Wind2 for $1800 easy within 15 minutes of stalling them!

My guess is high levels have the money to spend, and many of us may not have the patience to go through the required motions... its a little like grinding, you goto the NPC, click and click to get the items, click and click to destroy the items, setup the stall, ... you get the idea.

But it does work VERY WELL! For low to mid level characters it is a great way to make big money early for some SoS items! My luck getting SoS item drops is ZERO :banghead: :x , so this technique is a huge help!

Thanks again Mugen,
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well tnx all its still needs few updates ill do small onces tonight i realy dont have time for big oces (resizeing all pic) but im very pleased becouse of amount of help this guide did from many felow playeres that posted there thanks here (love ya all) and plz if there is something that i missed and that i need to add leave post here ( i realy dont think that i missed anything but thats one man's opinion and can always be proven wrong)...so by all means prove me wrong and leave post here of what i left out and ill ad it right away
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ACTION OF COLECTING DATA ON PRICES STILL IS ON PLZ POST PRICES OF ALL LVL1&2 ELEMENTS HERE(AND FROM WHICH SERVER U ARE) SO I CAN ADD A TABLE OF PRICES TO MY GUIDE(I STILL DONT HAVE ENOUGHT INFO ON CURRENT PRICES TO MAKE THIS TABLE)

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fck, nows the wind2 price is drop, it is pretty obvious that this si not rocket science and can be figured out pretty easily for someone with a bit of common sense

noobs will be noobs sigh*

agreed this is not rocket sience and yeah u need common sence to figer this out
but i disagree whit last one this still helped a lot of people noobs or no noobs there are 39 people that said this helped them meaby they didnt think of this but they will use it wisely i hope

the noob i was talking about was meant for you

like you said, there are at least 39+ ppl who never realized that wind2 can be generated this way, therefore 39+ new sources for wind2, 39+ other ppl stalling wind2, 39+ new element competitors39+ more reasons why wind2 prices will be pushed down

there are ppl who figured out how to make bots drop their items, did they post on how to do it?! no, because if they do, the bot programmerswill fix the bug. maybe you should take a hint you know big head ghost


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Blablablabla!

Anyways, just made 7M off the wind 2s. xD

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with PT i farmed for 28 days at stronghold, collected broken arrows=1 wind 2
when i finish i had over 4k wind 2 from all the broken arrows and equipment i destroy. so i sold about 2k and made of profit of over 4 mil and kept the rest.
also the cheap ring, stolen ring gave me other element, which i have over 5k unit of earth 2 fire 1 and other elements.....

SO, if you are a farmer COLLECT broken arrows, stolen ring, cheap ring, and equipment, you will be rich once you are done XD

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