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Do u think this guide is usefull?
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no 15%  15%  [ 48 ]
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with PT i farmed for 28 days at stronghold, collected broken arrows=1 wind 2
when i finish i had over 4k wind 2 from all the broken arrows and equipment i destroy. so i sold about 2k and made of profit of over 4 mil and kept the rest.
also the cheap ring, stolen ring gave me other element, which i have over 5k unit of earth 2 fire 1 and other elements.....

SO, if you are a farmer COLLECT broken arrows, stolen ring, cheap ring, and equipment, you will be rich once you are done XD


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Very few people do it, but I made millions when farming.

And Mugen Im jealous you got stickied. :P

I wouldn't worry to much about making an accurate pricing guide, unless you plan on doing 1 month updates. Prices change, Just give some rough prices and people can figure it out from there. I remember when wind2/ 4 were 4k each. Its a shame I learned about this after the prices came down.

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Yes i make money with farming too, but this guide shouldn't be abused, just do it till you get a sos bow to farm or whatever. Don't abuse it, as it'll destroy this way completely :cry:

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Yes i make money with farming too, but this guide shouldn't be abused, just do it till you get a sos bow to farm or whatever. Don't abuse it, as it'll destroy this way completely :cry:



It will be abused there is not much that can be done about it. Just like anything in this game.

That is why I suggest people not depend on this method This should be just 1 tool out of the many you have to increase your income.

cough cough points :arrow: at sig.

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Yours has no pic, so i'm not gonna read it :twisted:

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i like the guide elements i will try it

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Any tips on where i can put up my stall ? I mean the best spot to sell the elements.

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Hotan or DW, and just spam selling each element at a time with price per ele.


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Mugen† wrote:
3.Why would i tell so good and usefull stuf????

Im telling all this becouse i used as much as i wanted i managed to make 5mill from 500k of gold whit help of this in 4~5 days note: i did this whole day long (i know some lvl4x cant get that much) bought my sos bow pimped it to+4 and as u may noted most of my gear is sos so i realy cant ask for much more from this so i share it whit rest of smart (mostly smart and reasonable) persons that are comeing to this forum. High lvl u can use in order to save some money....nah it takes to much time and its to boreing adn too little money to save right? i know i wont do it ill just buy thats why this topic is not gonna couse crash of wind lvl 2 price and soo will help lot off ppl
its all i have to say to u...
if u think im noob becouse im helping other people that says some real nice things about u :P btw its 48 ppl that answer yes and prices are still not going down
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ty for standing up for me while i was off :oops: and ppl are not always bad even if all 48 of them were bad this guide would not couse crash of wind2 market

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Well this guide is for all people that are short on gold and need to make some fast( thats 75% of ppl under lvl 40 ) Enought whit chit chat this is the idea:
this is FIRST SENTENCE in my guide so if u had PT i would most certunly not expect of u to do this and im farming as well but as u can see in one of my advices
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4.This is recomended for ALL LVL PLAYERS IF they have to study or anything that will keep em "afk" they can take 20~25min before they have to go afk and do this then go stalling and afk when they return meaby they wont get exp but they sure will get money that they would make on grind (im studying for big tests so that how i originaly came to this idea needed way to make money and still be able to study)
can be usefull becouse i had been stalling and study until few days ago

@PPL LIKE NOOB123 KEVV AND twarg1
U CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS AND POST SOME NEW THING IF THERE ARE ANY BECOUSE ITS MY SAD DUTY TO ANOUNCE THAT I LOST MY NET FEW DAYS AGO AND WONT GET IT BACK UNTIL 28TH OF JUNE
so u wont be able to reply update or anything at all in this period of time
P.S. IM Mugen† FOR SOME REASON I CANT LOG ON IF U NEED DAM PROOF ASK CIN DID I PM HIM ABOUT LOSEING NET :twisted: THAT SHOULD KEEP MEAN MOUTHS SHUT
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Nice work!But it is very boring,but nothing is free! :!:


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i tried this its realy work!!! thx man :) it was my first time and i made 2 mils from this :P :)

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I've made like a full 35m so far :P

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If you find a Perfect Quilting Lallemar Female! Destroy it! Gave me 15 wind 2 elements!!

Small Quilting Lallemars female (2nd degree) give a lot of wind 2 elements too! I rondoed 5, and 2 gave me wind 2 elements. Leaving me with a total of: 13 wind 2 elements. 8 wind 1. 13 fire 2. 4 fire 1. 12 earth 2. 8 earth 1. 26 water 2. 24 water 1.

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tnx all im glad to be of asistence (from m8 again but this time for some reason i was able to log on mugen -.-')
@TwelveEleven
i do that too ( i destroy almost all item i find and lvl15 chest armor gives 10~11 wind lvl 2 8) )

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Been doing this several times on ALPS server and I've noticed that I either gain little or none at all. By that, I mean I only gained 100k or 200k, and even got (-) profit sometimes too. Spammed like crazy in hotan and dw til my fingers were tired. So I guess this method reallly doesn't work well with old servers. But this will become handy when Europe goes life though.


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Been doing this several times on ALPS server and I've noticed that I either gain little or none at all. By that, I mean I only gained 100k or 200k, and even got (-) profit sometimes too. Spammed like crazy in hotan and dw til my fingers were tired. So I guess this method reallly doesn't work well with old servers. But this will become handy when Europe goes life though.

You just have to stall all the elements over night and thats it, of course you will hardly will make profit if you only sell the wind2.

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I did some experimentation myself on this, here are my results.

Male lvl 12 tasset=3k each
1 batch=18 tassets
Starting money=1M
Rondos used total=100

First Batch=(56)wind2 elements
Second Batch=(58)wind2 elements
Third Batch=(47)wind2 elements
Fourth Batch=(29)wind2 elements
Fifth Batch=(21)wind2 elemetns

Money Spent
40k=Rondo(100)
54k= a batch of 18 tassets
270k=total all five batches of tassets

End Results
Wind 2 Collected=211->422k after sold->112k Profit.
90 tassets used
310k spent total
270k spent on tassets
690k left over from the 1M
10 Rondo left
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Lvl 8 Hand Blade=3.5k each

1 batch=18 blades
Starting money=1M
Rondos used total=100

First Batch=(53)wind2 elements
Second Batch=(46)wind2 elements
Third Batch=(51)wind elements
Fourth Batch=(36)wind elements
Fifth Batch=(36)wind elements

Money Spent
40k=Rondo(100)
63k=a batch of 18 blades
315k=total all 5 batches of blades

End Results
Wind 2 Collected=222->444k after sold->89k Profit
90 Blades used
355k Spent Total
315k Spent on Blades Total
645k left over
10 Rondo left

So in conclusion, it is obviously as of now better to use tassets for better profit. I got a few more wind 2's with blades, however not enough to matter much to cover the extra 500 I was spending on blades. Tassets= the better way to go as far as my research has gone. I have only done a total of 5 batches when it comes to blades, but I have done about 3 batches with tassets and recieve the same results or close. So if I feel like it, I may try another 2 batches just for assurance.

#UPDATE#
Just did some more reasearch spending 2m total.
1m for blades, and 1m for tassets for long term research.

Turned out almost equal amount of wind 2, but tasset still wins with a lot more profit.

In the end:
Blades gave me 579 wind 2
Tassets gave me 588 wind 2
I did not use all 1mill, I used until about 80-90k left. So you can safely count them as 588 and 588. Still, considering tassets are 3k each and blades are 3.5k each... This says that tassets are MUCH better profit-wise.

Although not MUCH profit. I made 1,176,000 on tassets leaving me 176k profit. I made 1,158,000 on blades leaving me 158k profit. Bleh, not much but if you have time on your hands, go for it.


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I used a mix of blades and tassets, started with about 275,000 (give or take)

and now i have 500,000 (and i ddnt even sell all the elements) :D

and it wasnt even that much boring (most probably cause i had to work for the money i ddnt even use all the destroyer rondos i got i had no money to buy other tassets/blades :banghead: )

its the stall part that boring it takes quite a bit of time for you to sell something and you also dunno how much everyone wants so you just sell the whole bunch and if anyone wants just some elements they leave without buying.

But in conclusion: i'm happy :D , gotta say i doubted you for a bit but now i'm saying it...you are a genius :P

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Yeah, Persia I haven't been able to sell my wind 2 yet even spamming. Unbelievable.


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Yeah, Persia I haven't been able to sell my wind 2 yet even spamming. Unbelievable.

well it IS young server so there arent many people there that can buy wind lvl2 at price like 2k each :wink:
tnx for shareing your experiment thou
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Been doing this several times on ALPS server and I've noticed that I either gain little or none at all. By that, I mean I only gained 100k or 200k, and even got (-) profit sometimes too. Spammed like crazy in hotan and dw til my fingers were tired. So I guess this method reallly doesn't work well with old servers. But this will become handy when Europe goes life though.

You just have to stall all the elements over night and thats it, of course you will hardly will make profit if you only sell the wind2.

+1 8)
tnx for takeing care of this guide while im gone m8 :love:
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this guide has been a god send... I am on pacific and have made alot of money I am not really collecting millions to just have, but have made enough to buy an all sos set 3rd degree and half way there to getting 4degree sos set.

Mugen I sent you a pm did you get it? did it help?

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I been doing this for a while, but I had the wrong item to rondo, I was making way less proffit, thanks for the heads up on the 2d blades now I can afford to buy a farming bow. I know the economy on the older servers especially is kinda crazy, but even if everybody did this then there would still be proffit from high level chars that have tons of money to spend and dont want to take the time to do it themselves. This is proffitable even if you break even with wind 2 and then sell all the other elements. Way cool!


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THIS IS PURE GENIUS, I DONT WANT TO SELL ALL THAT BEAUTIFUL WIND 2 I WANT TO USE IT :D :D :D :D

BTW Prices fluctuate everyweek in game depending on drops, bots and money buyers etc, Some days Weap Elixirs are 120-130k others your lucky to find one for 160k and worst of all some times 180k with people asking 250k :shock:

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In redsea wind element is for 1k :( :( :( :cry: :banghead: So i lose more than winning gold

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I am very sorry for bugging you all but i have a problem. i have no idea wat money farming. could someone please explain to me in a breif or detailed description. i really would like to know because i want a pet on the game. thank you.

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after you do all of this how do u sell it.. like where do u sell it? :?


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after you do all of this how do u sell it.. like where do u sell it? :?

Open up a stall somewhere in DW/Hotan with all the elements :)

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should i just sell the elements raw or wat should i sell them and for how much? and will people buy them?


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carphunter6 wrote:
should i just sell the elements raw or wat should i sell them and for how much? and will people buy them?

People will only buy wind 2 well, and most of players(well, in RedSea) want them 1k each when tehy're worth 2k each :banghead: but i stalled in DW and spammed the chat so my question is :WILL PEOPLE IN HOTAN WANT WIND 2 FOR 1K EACH TOO?


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is it guranteed that someone buys the elements?


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