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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:39 am 
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and also, i have to admit, as many others have stated in guides, bow is purely for the fun of using a bow, not winning in pvp and failing at pve to nuker.if u want to survive to ahve fun use str bow or no bow at all.

bow is good at lower lvls though


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1emVqZyaE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR81h9ixxjI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmykmjeWSIc

maybe you could watch this stuf, and then say again str bow is bad played with the right hands?

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new skills say PURE STR IS THE WAY TO GO FOR A BOW :P
why???? atm bow is really relying on crits, with knock back stun, they can finally concentrate not to crit only, so no need to be pure str??

wrong, if bow was only to use strongbow for stun and arrow chain for knockback, he would be like a ranged blader with low hp and no shield. without relying on crits u would do 4k dmg non crit on 30k hp of glaive
strong bow is a very lethal attack, and it will have 10 crit increase, and cast time will be reduced to half

so you can do it more often, and won't have to be dissapointed if it won't crit as str hybrid

and besides, but didn't liquidsmooth prove hybrid bows crit better then pure str??? and in the damage contest, Tomiator beats Liquidsmooth, and he's 70:70 bow

cmon people post replies, i think it's very good to discuss this build especially with the new skills comming!!

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... and failing at pve to nuker.if u want to survive to ahve fun use str bow or no bow at all.


ahahahaha ... unless the nuker is bezerked or a number of levels higher ... nukers definitely fail to at least int bows at pve. Plus regular nukers have to run around like idiots when getting piled after the splash damage from their nukes atttacts all the nearby mobs. I can ks most nukers and sometimes do so on purpose when they are being pests to friends with str builds.

Plus it is tons of fun to one hit nukers ... as they are still trying to get close enough to hit you. ... and I would think that a 70:70 hybrid should be able to do the same thing.

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the only way a 70/70 is able to hit as high as a nuker is with strongbow which needs to hit it's highest OR crit. that gives the nuker time to nuke u 2x ur dead or knock youdown plus 2x stab your dead. 70/70 bow with SOM bow is comparable to 70/70 with a NPC glaive


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the only way a 70/70 is able to hit as high as a nuker is with strongbow which needs to hit it's highest OR crit. that gives the nuker time to nuke u 2x ur dead or knock youdown plus 2x stab your dead. 70/70 bow with SOM bow is comparable to 70/70 with a NPC glaive


I think you are forgeting devil arrow that is stronger than strong bow and have similar casting time than the nukes. Im 1:1 not 70:70 and I do more than 4k on regular hit with devil arrow and strong bow against lvl80 glaviers (if they use typical gear with lots of str and int but not sosun) at 78 with 6 gap. About that glaviers with 30k HP I think that you will have to wait long time to see that :roll: .


On my opinion, 70:70 is the bowmen that it will take more profit of mana shield. In my case I know that if I max it I will runout of MP on middle of battle so I will level it just up to 40% transfer (first level of 3rd book).


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Liquid did awesome damage in the damage contest with a sosun bow, I dont know what bow tominator has, but I believe it is sosun also. Besides that, it is proven that hybrids crit around the same as str builds.

And I dont know who you are 1 hitting, I cant one hit a nuker from my level, unless I crit. But I only fought nukers with protector or armor. And I am not that weak >.<

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Liquid did awesome damage in the damage contest with a sosun bow, I dont know what bow tominator has, but I believe it is sosun also. Besides that, it is proven that hybrids crit around the same as str builds.

And I dont know who you are 1 hitting, I cant one hit a nuker from my level, unless I crit. But I only fought nukers with protector or armor. And I am not that weak >.<

tomiator has got a normal +5, not sosun

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criticalss wrote:
and also, i have to admit, as many others have stated in guides, bow is purely for the fun of using a bow, not winning in pvp and failing at pve to nuker.if u want to survive to ahve fun use str bow or no bow at all.

bow is good at lower lvls though


Where the fook did you get the idear bows cant win in pvp? I can kill almost anything that is my level, and I have no godly gear. I am just getting the hang of knowing how to play with a bow.

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