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.....that is trying to say?

If you want to say it's alrite calling someone a flamer just because they want to then.....ok....

how bout tell me how is that an opinion?

Some people are happy to play the game without needing to pay for a PT. If i bought one, there will still be people out there who cant buy one, and for those its unfair because they get kicked out for not being a premium user.
Please dont say that this is just a rumour because joymax HAS TO do something if the server is full and premium users are trying to sign on.

So...your trying to say everyone has a job, gets paid and are able to pay up $20 a month?

how simple minded you are...

No i'm not saying that. I'm saying everyone has the possibility to buy a Premium Ticket.

If you don't have any money you should not be complaining in the first place.
People get spoiled by the "Free 2 play", but nothing in this world is free. Not the silkroad servers, not the game or the updates.

If you can't get in cause people who pay get priveliges bad luck. The login problem was huge. Everybody complained about it.
Then joymax just added the easy login function to the Premium ticket, bingo problem solved.

They keep the paying customer.



Why does joymax have to do something? Will the server explode otherwise?

not everyone has the possibility.

If you cannot pay because u cant use e.g. paypal or any of the other paying methods in your country and don't have the luxury of a CC then u could complain yes.

For those of you who continue to have problems with logging in but can't get $20 together to pay for premium....heres a pic to give you some ideas about what you can do.

I used to be one of those

And yes that is one of the problems with the login function only being on PT. It more or less forces you to buy a PT with all the 5% bonusses u don't really need over the Gold ticket.

the draw of this game is that its F2P thats what got most ppl started...thats what got me started...if i wanted to pay for a game i would've choosen WoW over this....Now the thx to bots/multiclient bots (a problem JM is well aware of) the servers are constantly full and a Game that claims to be F2P has gotten the point where unless you have a PT your probably not going to be able to log in for long

The Fact is the PT is getting to a point where it is almost a nessecity in order to login....That means that unless you shelve out the money for it every month your going to have a tough time playing this game...Thats not F2P there are plenty of F2P games out there that have better customer service and keep there bot/spam/gold selling markets under control so don't say..."Its F2P so expect shitty service" I've spent over the course of my entire SRO playing time (around 2 years) about $110 on silk....So i have made my contribution my donation for lack of a better word....and still i haven't seen an improvement in JM services the translation are crap the servers are crap the customer support is crap....is it so hard to stick a GM at JG gates when a server opens so it can just delete/d/c every bot that runs out?

So stop saying you Pay for stuff when you use the item mall because as the JM has stated numerous times the item mall is designed to give a slight advantage to those willing to play but most if not all item items can be gained in-game at some point...this means that JM has open expressed that it doesn't require players to purchase items from the Mall meaning that every item purchased just goes to giving them extra money NOT money required to play the game......if it need money to keep up the servers it wouldn't be F2P...simple as that

k, let me ask you something, why do you think joymax set the server limits to 3000? obviously to reduce lag...

and so your saying that joymax does not have to kick anyone even if like 1000 premium users logs on? so you expect joymax would log the premium users in and create massive lag which defeats their purpose of limiting the servers to 3000?

and i wonder why rev6 always shows numbers near 3000, must be a huge coincidence that there are always around 3000 users on (non PT + PT users)

I just got in on my 5th try...and I am able to get on every day within 15 minutes or so, as I'm sure the thousands of people without pt are able to also...



Then go play those games...no is forcing you to play this "crap" of a game. And can you name any of those games, just out of curiosity.



I'm pretty sure they claim that you can get as far in the game as someone who buys from the item mall (which is true).



Joymax is a company that wants to earn money, I fail to see anything wrong with that.

Yes the fact that the game was F2P got me started aswell, but Joymax started this game to make money.

I agree on you that the lack of effort from Joymax on player bots hurted the SRO playing community and that nowadays most of the high level players out there simply bot. And people may not like this but since there is no preventive action it pays to do so.

But i don't think they are the biggest problem having to do with serverspace, i don't know how many gold buying companies there are atm. but I think if you delete them logging in would be a hell of a lot easier. ( remember the first 2-3 days after the massive bot lists before they all came back )

I'm not saying Joymax is doing a great job on how they run things, not at all, but giving the new PT (that solves the problem for a lot of people) the blame is just backwards.



They don't have to kick anyone. They can choose to kick people. But i see no reason why they would.
Logging in became harder since PT came out, so why would they have to kick out more people if there are less people coming in?

Yesterday I tried unsuccessfully to long into Persia at 3:00pm Eastern 11 consecutive times...i could not get one under 3 tries until 7:00pm...i know for a fact there are thousands of ppl who have this problem and even more who after then get on their server get d/c for a higher paying customer.



Rappelz, GunZ, Maplestory, Runescape. All of those games are F2P and all of them have better customer service that SRO. I never said i was forced to play SRO i like the game when i can get on. What i don't like is being kicked off and being at a disadvantage to the point were i can't play the game from 8:00am to 8:00pm without trying to log in 8+ times just because someone else is willing to PAY for a F2P game.....



Eventually show the guy who got to lvl 80 fully farmed without using any item mall item and i'll show you someone who is probably very upset knowing that someone did exactly what he did in less than half the time botting and weren't banned for it...




I see nothing wrong with making money smarta** that comment was directed at the ppl who claim that there item mall purchases are the only thing keeping JM alive....



If your trying to make an argument for JM against me you better pic and choose something better to say cause all that garbage you tried threw at me was pretty weak. Theres more out there who play this game and dislike the way its operated than those that play and enjoy the way its operated so you've quiet a hard job to do if your trying to destroy my argument

Do you even get what i'm trying to say? Your saying that 4000 users in a server, 1000 people over the server limit wont cause lag? next time it'll help if you read the whole post and not just snipets of it.

And ain't you just contradicting yourself?

1. Why won't they kick people if it's HARDER to log in?
2. If logging in became HARDER why would there be LESS people coming in?
3. and if you actually try reading my post properly and my first post properly, there IS a reason to kick people..so the premium users can log in AND to reduce lag..

Phillip, seriusly.... stfu.
Im tired of ppl who always tell me, the game is unfair. Pt is unfair. Bottting is ufair, ccf is unfair. WHO CARES?

How about this:
Life is cruel, the universe dilates, ppl die every day... *sob*
So you have 2 possible solutions. This is my modest proposal:
1. Commit suicide(i think this is the best for all of us)
2. STFU, pull yourself togheter, dont cry anymore, grow up and such and MOSTLY, dont start any stupid topics like this.
REAL ninjas solve their problems themselfes they dont cry for help, coz there are no help. Just you and this cruel life you got you nubface.

Oh, and dont take this on your heart, this is just IMHO.

Those who say that either, bots, buy gold or ccfer themselves

no offense, just what i think

I know, its not your fault being imbecile, the world and all ppls in it. Its their fault. Not yours.
^^

ps: sry, mods, i stop this.

I dont think there are that many premium users on each server :/ (as a percentage of the total players on that server, and server capacity).

you know a gd friend of mine told me the same shit couple days ago and i told him,
the ppl that care are the ones that wanna play this fu.cki.ng game RIGHT FFS
he never talked to me again...

is not enough of this blahblah ..

But premium ticket can be unfair who dont have it and try log in ...
so yes and no to take off the ticket..

kk, first of all don't tell anyone to stfu, if u don't like what he's saying and what your reading then just ignore the thread. If you want to know who cares.... well, obviously the ones that always say something about it cares. If you think no one cares about botters take a look at some threads and if you think no one cares about premium.. have you had a look at the poll yet? those are the ones that care.



i think thats the best for you actually, since you even thought of it



I should've read your post more carefully...if i saw this part i would'nt even bother typing all this...but..."REAL" ninjas solve their problems themselves and don't cry for help...reality check here...how many of us are "ninjas" none of us would be here posting in this forum if we had the power to change things now would we?

buy premium then

I cant believe this thread is still going.


Lets take a few quotes here




Now, as this definition shows, it allows an option in which a person can play the game without paying. But by not paying, no where does it say they should be entitled to a full experience.

Now, onto my 2nd point. You say that if people buy a pt, it is unfair to the people who dont buy a pt. But, isnt that what item mall was suppose to do in the 1st place? A monkey gives an option in which the user dosnt have to pick up items. It gives them an advantage. Now thats fair enough, if they pay for a monkey, they deserve a monkey. The same thing goes with pt. A pt allows a user to have preference to the server, along with a bunch of other bonuses. And it is fair enough. If they pay for it, they deserve it.


This works for real life situation aswell. In Australia, the sydney harbour bridge is crowded with traffic ( very similar to a server full of traffic ). Now, as a way of getitng people to their destination quicker, they are proposing an idea in which people who pay $25 can go in the bus lane. This is a common example of money gives someone power. Now is this unfair.? no it is not.


If u say u cant afford $20, go out and either get a job and work a few hours a week for it. If you arnt old enough to work, go and mow lawns around your local area, collect cans and sell them for 5c each at a recycling plant. Theres a number of things u can do. As for physically buying the silk, it isnt hard to orange a debit card with your bank. And if your parents dont allow you to get that debit card, then thats bad luck. If u truly want to pay for this game you will be able to form some kind of arrangement with your folks.


This is all in my opinion. I truly believe you have no right to complain. Joymax is a company, and as a company, they have the right to try and make as much money as they can. Thats called a WISE BUSINESS VENTURE. Why should they loose thousands of dollars to provide a game FREE of charge to people they dont know? Think about it...

GUYS ! YO,GUYS !

I wanna see get a reasonable conclussion about logging on problem:
1)JM wanna earn money frob silk buyers?(PT)
2)JM will invest in that case fos buyinn new hi-tec to improve server capaccity?
Just dont get it and I am a grown-up afterall

Well simply put, we won't have an agreement on this. Those that can and are willing to pay for it will like it, because they get an advantage, and obviously if they're paying for it they don't find it too horrible, those that don't will complain that they can't get on.

On one hand, the company obviously has to make money, and this is a very good effective way of parting us from the contents of our wallets. On the other, by making it to the point where it's hard for users to log on at all during prime time, they choke their new users (who come because it's free to play), and slowly kill off their business.

The best solution I can think of would be premium time- times when only premium users can log on. Whenever the server usage is highest, mark that time daily so that any non-premiums are kicked, and not allowed to log in. Give the people who are willing to pay extra a nice period with much less lag, bots, etc., and give the people who aren't a time slot for when they need to go away and do something else, so we can at least schedule it.

I do have a hard time believing that a game with this many users is having a hard time supporting themselves through item shop, though. I don't think it's too much to ask that they not turn the very basics of a game (playing it) into a quest for profit. But then, I have faith in corporations doing the right thing, so it probably is.

lol?...what's the difference from that and P2P?

If joymax states that the game is P2P i wont be complaining, but for those who care to look on the main page, it states clearly F2P and how are we meant to play if we cant loggin or not got dc without paying?

I totally get what you're trying to say. But i didn't respond to it cause i thought u could figure that part out by yourself. Guess i was wrong.

What are the chances that when the server is full with 3000 people another 1000 people with premium ticket will log in at the same time thus causing the server to reach 4000 people and lag.
Not very realistic. So no reason to make that impossible.

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Now for the second part.

1. If non PT players can't come in. ( Like yourself ) They don't have to kick their whining asses. ( Like yourself )
2. Why would there be less people coming in? Isn't this your topic about not getting into the server?
3. If you had the ability to comprehend my answers you would have know they were about your first post.

Because it's still free to play, and it allows us to both reward people for paying, and not cause massive frustration for those that don't. Instead of fighting tooth and nail to log in, you would simply wait until the time is up. Much less stressful for all parties.

Think about it in terms of server maintenence- EVE Online does a server reset for one hour every day. It can be done in less time, but the server goes down for an hour every day, so they can do their fixing tasks. Hardly anyone complains about it. This would be similar, except the premium members would be able to be online during that time. The people that want to pay for it have a slight advantage, and those that don't have time to check up on the news.

On the other hand, MMOB has no regular downtimes except for patches, but the servers occasionally crash. This locks people out of the game. People complain for the few hours it takes to fix, because they didn't know it would happen. This is what we have now.

if the game was p2p then i wonder how all these goldbots got in.