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how do you think the muslim/arabic race will fit into SRO/FOS
they will fit in nicely 23%  23%  [ 33 ]
they will be the best 12%  12%  [ 18 ]
they wont work out 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
they dont belong 5%  5%  [ 7 ]
idc 7%  7%  [ 10 ]
idk 9%  9%  [ 13 ]
theres another race? 3%  3%  [ 4 ]
other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
lets wait and see 40%  40%  [ 58 ]
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honestly, given the political correctness in the world today, I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't add it.

I mean heck, even 300 was accused of spreading hatred towards Iran, even though it's almost complete fiction.

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it's unfortunate that the world can't let go of their differences, even in a visual entertainment fantasy, a game.

there will be wars, global spam and all that racist bull if islam is added, theres no way it wont happen, the world is too selfish and ignorant.

it doesnt mean everyone is like that though.

bet we'll see some inter-religious marriages in-game \o/

if you notice the game is all about triangular conflict, the trade system, 3 'races'

it'll be added, but I don;t think it will be as massive as people make Europe out to be, roc mountain and heaven will most likely come first

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About the classes and skills, i read this a long time ago, here is the link http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setv ... gameID/218

"The Arabians (Islamic characters) will have the ability to summon genies. The summoned genies will be able to battle and, through intensive training perform other feats of spirit magic. Islamic characters will be able to use the sword, blade, claw and the chakoram as their weapons. The genies will be able to train in the 4 attributes of Earth, Wind, Fire, and Water."


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Gaming is supposed to be an escape from reality try keeping it that way whenever you play games.

Any add to this game is a welcome gift just because it is getting boring and the only thing you can do is switch mastery or build, new skills or new elements to the game are certainly welcome.

I used to play a game called Enemy Territory and currently testing the beta of quake wars, people used to flame you when you went axis with things like NAZI and such or on teamspeak hearing people say "lets kill this *****" incredible sad and totally not needed, probably just a scream for attention.


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it will be holy war time.

euro christians will attack the muslims in a bloody inquisition, chinese will just watch with a bucket of popcorn, then kill whoever is left.


LOL. That sounds like the good ole China; :wink: just substitute the popcorn with Peking duck and dirty cheap communist beer.


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LOL

Upon entering this thread I had no real opinion on muslims being added, so I just ticked "wait and see"

Flying carpets sound awesome however :)

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The only race that oesn't fit is Europe, cuz Europe is like with the 2 handed sword and like Knights and hat shit, while Chinese and Arabic had both blades and they were strongly connected to their honour.

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The only race that oesn't fit is Europe, cuz Europe is like with the 2 handed sword and like Knights and that shit, while Chinese and Arabic had both blades and they were strongly connected to their honour.

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lol sorry for doublepost :P

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Wtf.... That comment about the christians fighting the muslims, and the chinese watching with popcorn was racist. Dont try to imply that Islam is a violent religion. :x


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Wtf.... That comment about the christians fighting the muslims, and the chinese watching with popcorn was racist. Dont try to imply that Islam is a violent religion. :x



dude um you see thats not racist

you see

although you might wanna ignore this

think about HOW muhhammed [i think i misspelled his name plz forgive me] spread islam

he sure didnt walk up and say hi there wanna join my religion

mecca and medina were basically at full scale war with the muslims in medina pwning the pagans in mecca

also i think he was reffering to the crusades

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The only race that oesn't fit is Europe, cuz Europe is like with the 2 handed sword and like Knights and that shit, while Chinese and Arabic had both blades and they were strongly connected to their honour.



actually the whole heavy armour thing started in IRAN not europe

the europeans just adopted it

also europeans are all about honour its called chivalry thats what the whole knighthood was founded about

another side note, although probadly not relevent, was the fact that the europeans did travel on the silkroad and actually the romans (constantinople eastern roman empire) stole silk from the chinese

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too bad the story behind the whole story doesn't really reflect in the game (yet)..

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Hold on, so is this game revolving around three races, or three religions? I read a lot of posts referring to the third race as Islam, which is a religion, and not Arabic (a language >.<, but never mind that).


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Hold on, so is this game revolving around three races, or three religions? I read a lot of posts referring to the third race as Islam, which is a religion, and not Arabic (a language >.<, but never mind that).


Three races man.
People are just bringing religion to the subject. =\

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I think it wouldave been better if the game was made in fantasy world (if they wanted a bit more friendly game) cause in real world ppl will soon start making racist and anti-racist debates like the small ones that are going here..

I'm not saying i'm helping to resolve the situation though...as soon as possible i'll create a guild on Islam with the name "Saladin's army" :P

And we gonna kick some crusade butts.


And to Barotix :

I dont think that Arabs at that time were civilized enough or ready for someone to come sit down with them and telling them that their old religion of worshiping statues was of no good, yes its true they were masters at trade and making a community but they were no great at accepting the fact that someone is telling them that their religion was wrong, if u studied this correctly i would say you shouldnt have said a word because they tortured anyone who declared being a Muslim in public..and they banned the religion from expanding freely....omg...can you actually believe this? human rights suck...Muslims shouldave reported this to the UN :shock: (they would probably do nothing though =/ ) cause guess what...Islam was new!

And @ the dude that was quoted, i dont think that was very racist man as Im a muslim myself.


And to make my post more subject related i think it will fit in great cause if Europe is going to fit in then Islam is going to fit 100%

My guessing it would require some nice player skills of management and it would be really fun and in parties it can be devastative to both Chinese and Europe . :twisted:


Anyways lets focus on whats important here...we all should hate JoyMax.

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Hold on, so is this game revolving around three races, or three religions? I read a lot of posts referring to the third race as Islam, which is a religion, and not Arabic (a language >.<, but never mind that).


Three races man.
People are just bringing religion to the subject. =\



Nope I think JoyMax refer to the 3rd race as Islam in many places dont really remember where but i'm sure you could find a lot of examples on the main site "the game story thing"

They are the ones to be blamed for ignorance on this issue i think.. :)

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Wtf guys dnt be so sensetiv, i mean like if this game was gonna bring another race say if its not islam . . . . Would any of this happen :?:

and why wouldnt they fit joymax wouldnt wanna bring some new stuff to the gamr if it wasnt that good i kno thte game has sme problems but everyrhing in the wrld has its upps and downs

a lil more to islam it has lots of new places and itsgonna be in iraq to turky to iran and some will spread to saudi arabia, they can use scimitars and daul sword and axes, transports will not be magic carpets cuz they dnt exist, they might be as a normal transport like isntead of a red horse But job transports will remain as they r cuz they havent changed from eurpe race so why would they change now

and for my frnd who said that muhammed ddnt want to spread the islam relegion cuz he killed any1 who ddnt join his relegionthats wrong cuz islam spread all the way from the midle east to iran to the turks and som places in south africa (not the contry) to places in europe like spain.... And how could u be a muslim and not kno how to spell ur prophets name

i would strongly recommend to lock this thread if it was to bring racism in this site or the game

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Im an Arab muslom and would love if they put a race like that ^_^

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Personally i'd rather have middle eastern over euro expansion.

Just because the weapons are much more exotic and awesome.

Katars, Shamshir's, Scimitars, and so on.

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Probably use d-daggers, schimitars, and cats claws, and lastly pure nuker magic. :)

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Three races man.
People are just bringing religion to the subject. =\



Um are you dum? CHinese is a race, European is a race, Islam is a RELIGION, not a race. And Islam would fit in better then the european race. and btw to you people that always refer to Muslims of being arabic... thats kind of wrong. Arabic is refered to someone that is of an arabian heritage, or from the country of Saudi Arabia. That is just 1 of the many many countries that have the Islam religion. So next time you see someone who says they are Muslim dont think of them of being arabic. As a matter of fact more then 7/10 of the people i know that are Muslim are Not Arabic, but rather from Pakistan ( like me :D), or many other middle eastern countries.


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300 was accused of spreading hatred towards Iran, even though it's almost complete fiction.


What part is fiction? King Leonidas led a small force of 300 Spartans, supported by about 5000 Helots, to Thermopylae where they held off the second Persian invasion, a force of around 150,000 led by Xerxes, for three days. Xerxes was avenging his father Darius' failed first invasion of about a decade earlier.


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Wtf.... That comment about the christians fighting the muslims, and the chinese watching with popcorn was racist. Dont try to imply that Islam is a violent religion. :x



dude um you see thats not racist

you see

although you might wanna ignore this

think about HOW muhhammed [i think i misspelled his name plz forgive me] spread islam

he sure didnt walk up and say hi there wanna join my religion

mecca and medina were basically at full scale war with the muslims in medina pwning the pagans in mecca


also i think he was reffering to the crusades



Are you kidding me.

I cannot stand ppl so ignorant they don't even bother to verify the sh*t that the post like its a fact.

Islam was initially the MOST peaceful and MOST accepting of the 3 religions that worship God/Allah/Yahweh. The teachings of the Koran led the Arabic society into a Revolution and furthering the spread of knowledge and education. Initially the Muslim Religion was the only one out of Judiaism and Christianity that allowed and welcomed those who didn't believe in their interpretation of the bible. When the Islamic armies captured Europe unlike the christians they didn't try to murder the indigenous ppl or mass convert them under penalty of death. It was only after Large groups of Christian armies urged by the current Pope to rebel that the Crusades began....

Im tired of that ignorant western bullsh*t belief that Muslims are violent and that other crap. Thats just racism left over from generations of brainwashing and warfare that was all started because if Islam continued to spread the Pope and other Christian leaders would lose there iron grip on Europe.....last time there was ever a mass movement and spread of the Christian religion they called it the Dark Ages in case you forgot


and for the record i don't even believe in God im an Atheist

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....belief that Muslims are violent and that other crap. Thats just racism left over from generations of brainwashing and warfare...


I'm not going to weigh in on this issue except to say that the belief that Muslims are violent is not "just racism left over from generations of brainwashing." The current belief that Muslims are violent is due to the beheadings and suicide bombs and such. I think maybe you were trying to say something else.


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darkblazer1 wrote:
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Three races man.
People are just bringing religion to the subject. =\



Um are you dum? CHinese is a race, European is a race, Islam is a RELIGION, not a race. And Islam would fit in better then the european race. and btw to you people that always refer to Muslims of being arabic... thats kind of wrong. Arabic is refered to someone that is of an arabian heritage, or from the country of Saudi Arabia. That is just 1 of the many many countries that have the Islam religion. So next time you see someone who says they are Muslim dont think of them of being arabic. As a matter of fact more then 7/10 of the people i know that are Muslim are Not Arabic, but rather from Pakistan ( like me :D), or many other middle eastern countries.


Well, for me, those are "races" only in the game. Thinking about races between humans is kinda stupid. For me, there's only one real race, and that's human race.


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Wtf.... That comment about the christians fighting the muslims, and the chinese watching with popcorn was racist. Dont try to imply that Islam is a violent religion. :x



dude um you see thats not racist

you see

although you might wanna ignore this

think about HOW muhhammed [i think i misspelled his name plz forgive me] spread islam

he sure didnt walk up and say hi there wanna join my religion

mecca and medina were basically at full scale war with the muslims in medina pwning the pagans in mecca


also i think he was reffering to the crusades



Are you kidding me.

I cannot stand ppl so ignorant they don't even bother to verify the sh*t that the post like its a fact.

Islam was initially the MOST peaceful and MOST accepting of the 3 religions that worship God/Allah/Yahweh. The teachings of the Koran led the Arabic society into a Revolution and furthering the spread of knowledge and education. Initially the Muslim Religion was the only one out of Judiaism and Christianity that allowed and welcomed those who didn't believe in their interpretation of the bible. When the Islamic armies captured Europe unlike the christians they didn't try to murder the indigenous ppl or mass convert them under penalty of death. It was only after Large groups of Christian armies urged by the current Pope to rebel that the Crusades began....

Im tired of that ignorant western bullsh*t belief that Muslims are violent and that other crap. Thats just racism left over from generations of brainwashing and warfare that was all started because if Islam continued to spread the Pope and other Christian leaders would lose there iron grip on Europe.....last time there was ever a mass movement and spread of the Christian religion they called it the Dark Ages in case you forgot


and for the record i don't even believe in God im an Atheist



everything you said i already know

im refferring to while muhammed was spreading islam

the people of mecca were giving him a hard time it was his uncle im not sure cant remember annyhoo they basically kicked the muslims out

so the muslims moved to medina

it was full scale war between mecca and medina

what im reffering to pre dates the crusades

the crusades was a MASSIVE misunderstanding

it was the TURKISH MUSLIMS that were giving the christians a hard time

the pope saw it as a chance to get the "christrians" (franks) out of europe and focus thier energy elsewere

but anyhoo i think the crusades was a MASSIVE MISUNDERSTANDING

i know everything you said i was reffering to when muhammed was spreading islam

and yes muslims taxation was much better than christians overall the muslims back then were much nicer

and im not muslim thats why i accidently messed up his name

i just have alot of respect for muhammed

mainly because of how tolerant he made islam to be

also i nvr said anything about the crusades

i said and i quote

"i think HE was referring to the crusades" i said HE not I, you lost your temper for no reason and argued about the wrong subject LOL


-ANYHOO-

back on topic PLZ PEOPLE STAY ON TOPIC

NO MORE TALKING ABOUT CRUSADES

AND MUHAMMED AND PEOPLE OF THE BOOK (christianity judaism and islam)

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oooh, oooh, oooh, for my char, i want to be a rug rider or a snake charmer, and for armor, i want to rock a turbon like the dude on johnny quest!!!!

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....belief that Muslims are violent and that other crap. Thats just racism left over from generations of brainwashing and warfare...


I'm not going to weigh in on this issue except to say that the belief that Muslims are violent is not "just racism left over from generations of brainwashing." The current belief that Muslims are violent is due to the be headings and suicide bombs and such. I think maybe you were trying to say something else.


Islam has always been seen as a violent race in western cultures. Even before the suicide bombings which many other Asian cultures specifically the japanese are know for and the Beheading which has been a form of justice used throughout the world for centuries. Romans placed the enemies head on pikes and stuck them on roads as warnings but they are considered one the the greatest civilizations that ever existed.

I know what i meant when i said that. They very fact that you brought up these events like suicide bombs and be headings as current events is proof enough that your already brainwashed into believing that these things are new to the world and that Muslims (a religion not a group of ppl) are avid users of such methods, completely ignoring centuries of history in which Europeans, Asians, and Native Americans committed similar acts and/or attrocites. In the USA black ppl were still being hanged in parts of Pennsylvania as late as the early 1980's. But i don't see you calling the US a group of violent ppl. :x

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....belief that Muslims are violent and that other crap. Thats just racism left over from generations of brainwashing and warfare...


I'm not going to weigh in on this issue except to say that the belief that Muslims are violent is not "just racism left over from generations of brainwashing." The current belief that Muslims are violent is due to the beheadings and suicide bombs and such. I think maybe you were trying to say something else.


+1 to XemnasXD.

For like the thousand time i tell ppl this piece of information on the internet....terrorism and Islam are like the complete opposite...even the word 'Islam' means peace...it have been said over and over in the Quran that Islam is 100% against terrorism...its not our fault that ppl are naive enough to believe the terrorists claiming they are true muslims, true muslims even hate them more than non-muslims cause they spread bad reputation...and guess what...like XemnasXD said..you all are getting brainwashed by the ignorant stereotyping media surrounding you just waiting for any terrorist to say the word Islam and then news flash...a new "muslim" group just bombed a site...wtf?

Its not out fault those damn terrorists just keeps on going on in the name of Islam.

The day a muslim decides to kill an innocent human being, he has committed a major sin in Islam that is pretty much unforgivable.

Sorry if i sounded a bit mad at you but i am pretty pissed off.

People shouldn't blindly depend on the media to be 100% honest..they have some sort of tendency to spice things up a bit.

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