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Post subject: Removing Image Verification Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:34 am |
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Its obvious that the image verification didn't stop bots, so mayb its time to remove it? So we can just click connect after we keyed in password n log in.
I am a slow typer... =_____=
and, i hope JM can start recruiting volunteers to battle the player Bot problem.
As for Gold bot, i don't think theres really a way to stop them... they r roaches... they never go away... they breed n breed and breed, eventually SRO will b a game where bots play with bots... KS KS KS.... Stable, Potion Merchant etc etc~~ n it goes on.....
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Xanovaria
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:53 am |
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They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:08 am |
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The put the image verification in to make logging in harder and more frustrating = you get pissed and sick of not lgging in = buy a premium~
=.=..
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:08 am |
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it is true that the image verication hasnt stopped bots
but i dont think they will remove it
advice: learn to type  its very handy
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:17 am |
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It was only meant to slow them down, theres no way it could stop them >.>, well it could stop em from auto logging in, some maybe.
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feba
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:20 am |
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Quote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.
Because ffxi, WoW, EVE, EQ, SWG, screw-this-list-it-would-go-on-forever don't have bots?
The prompt is just an annoyance. It doesn't stop bots at all.
P2P would be likewise- it might get rid of some botting players, but there would still be plenty of people still botting.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:36 am |
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DarkJackal wrote: The put the image verification in to make logging in harder and more frustrating = you get pissed and sick of not lgging in = buy a premium~
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+1.
It was never made to stop bots.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:43 am |
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Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play. Not good Enough For That. Cause JM is Really bad At Business handling.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:55 am |
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well when the image code came it was 2 weeks of HEVEAN then the gold bots cracked it Y_Y
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:18 pm |
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Karlos Vandango wrote: well when the image code came it was 2 weeks of HEVEAN then the gold bots cracked it Y_Y
this is basically the problem with trying to stop bots with anything.
All you can do is be very vigilant, and hope either you see them, or someone reports them. Of course most MMOs don't care enough to have a time that focuses on handling cheaters and nothing else. Actually, I don't think any do.
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Sharp324
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:14 pm |
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I think mostly it stopped clientless bots but that was soon over with. When it first came out you could login nearly 24/7. But doesnt do much for babysitters, like the ones at the den 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:28 pm |
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JM put image varification not for stop a gold bot...
this is long time plan by JM corp.
image varification (JM reason stop the gold bot)thats not true.
putting an image varification to implement the premium ticket.
IT'S ALL PLANN 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:30 pm |
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Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.

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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:31 pm |
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The image verrification is not meant for the bots. If it was for that reason Ksro would not have it. It is meant for the brute force program.
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Sharp324
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:35 pm |
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Idk if they made it pay to play i would quit...probably do to WoW or just quit RPGs. No way i would p2p and buy silk
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:35 pm |
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If the people over at Joymax were competent at game making, they would create a system in which bots cannot even connect. However, as I have been saying time and again, Joymax profits from the abundant gold bots, so they will always be with us.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:42 pm |
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Crumpets wrote: Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play. 
for real, i want it to become p2p so i can finally have fun & login lol
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:56 pm |
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[NF]IceCrash wrote: Crumpets wrote: Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.  for real, i want it to become p2p so i can finally have fun & login lol
same her, i want to become p2p so i can finally stop playing.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:04 pm |
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vindicated01 wrote: [NF]IceCrash wrote: Crumpets wrote: Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.  for real, i want it to become p2p so i can finally have fun & login lol same her, i want to become p2p so i can finally stop playing.
Making it p2p would not fix a single thing, it would just get joymax more money.
The only way to fix the game is for the GMs to become active, IP ban/block bots, try to find/setup anti-hacksoftware which is "bot-proof" and update it once a while when hackers/botters crack it.
But the thing is, the most p2p games have GMs who care about the game and act against hackers/botters.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:17 pm |
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Puni wrote: vindicated01 wrote: [NF]IceCrash wrote: Crumpets wrote: Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.  for real, i want it to become p2p so i can finally have fun & login lol same her, i want to become p2p so i can finally stop playing. Making it p2p would not fix a single thing, it would just get joymax more money. The only way to fix the game is for the GMs to become active, IP ban/block bots, try to find/setup anti-hacksoftware which is "bot-proof" and update it once a while when hackers/botters crack it. But the thing is, the most p2p games have GMs who care about the game and act against hackers/botters.
Bingo...But hell some players pay more then the p2p game costs on silk...
I mean 10$ wont be anything because the bots spend more..... So yeah no help being p2p.. Just more bos will join and less legit........ <__<
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:02 pm |
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p2p wouldn't fix anything, its their service they need to fix, ppl pay for item mall stuff already and they don't care, they still pay and buy their stuff, what exactly would happen if it went p2p? They will still say the same stuff, "we are continuously doing our best", and ya know most ppl buying silk are bots anyway, why would they stop they already have fully farmed characters full sosun and shit, they already got what they wanted by cheating and nothings gonna be done about it, if it goes p2p its not like they will be banning them then.
It may get rid of some bots, but it will get rid of a lot of actual players too, most likely me for one.
Besides they probably make more money as it is.. maybe $20-25 a month for the average silk buyer, meanwhile many others are paying well over that and not just monthly, if they made it p2p then everyone spending more then that a month spends less now, and everyone not spending that a much probably wont start.
Just look at what they have done, does anyone here really wanna pay monthly for a game where they have totally screwed it up for you(if you don't bot), like the image verification, it doesn't do shit but piss you off and they know it but do they fix/get rid of it? Nope. And the premium ticket, they have pretty much made a f2p game "pay to logon", if you don't have one then your gonna get pretty pissed off trying to login, but thats not all to make it harder for you if you don't have one, they auto dc you after 1 try... Try logging in, cannot connect, then you dc from the server which you can't even connect to >.>.
Theres lots of other reasons, but I think my favorite is "if you get hacked its your own fault".
I <3 sro but joymax's service for isro sux, and I doubt making it p2p will really change that.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:16 pm |
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Even WoW has gold bots and powerlevel bots, so don't think making the game p2p will be your panacea.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:56 pm |
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uBeR wrote: Even WoW has gold bots and powerlevel bots, so don't think making the game p2p will be your panacea.
But atleast they Ban 10k+ of those bots every month
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DarkJackal
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:08 am |
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"every month", then they just come right back.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 5:18 am |
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Can we thank them for making a totally useless preventive system as well? 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:18 am |
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Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play.
i think itz alreayd p2p cuz usally u gotta buy a premium ticket to log in the game on some of the servers ( the olds one for instance babel itz full 24/7)
and premium cost $20 month , some people usally pay $20 just to play every month
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:24 am |
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hitman144 wrote: Xanovaria wrote: They could fix all of our problems and just make it pay to play. i think itz alreayd p2p cuz usally u gotta buy a premium ticket to log in the game on some of the servers ( the olds one for instance babel itz full 24/7) and premium cost $20 month , some people usally pay $20 just to play every month
never used PT never will paitence is a virtue. 
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:25 am |
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Yeah, they should get rid of it.
It has outlived its usefulness.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:53 am |
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Lmao that CAPTCHA thing doesnt work anyways, computers still get into sro
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