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Fizle_NL
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Post subject: Ligh imbue good for pure int? Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:39 pm |
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1 TOgether with heuksal and cold. GOod build for pure int spear? Or should i take fire ass well, only for the imbue?
2 what are the advantages and disadvates of light imbue?
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meep
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:00 pm |
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Pros of light imbue:
+ Parry reduction (makes monsters take more damage)
+ Transfer is fun when you're mobbing~
+ "Okay" damage
Cons:
- Status effect is rare against people and when using only nukes
- Less damage than fire imbue
I'd suggest getting fire even if you don't use the imbue. Fire nukes do the most damage and have the greatest range (y'know, how far away you can be when casting). When you're using a spear, the short range of light nukes and all of the transfer will likely get you killed a lot. The extra few meters you get from fire nukes will be a life saver plus you can better single monsters out of a large group so you don't end up dead~
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shadowx53
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:13 pm |
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only problem is that with the new skills people are starting to talk about dropping the fire imbue and the whole tree so they can get the ice mana shield instead for reducing damage. So it makes nukers wonder wth they should do. Drop the most powerful element and go with the second strongest so you can get better defense. Or go with the most powerful element and drop ice instead. O_o
The way I see it , even at 90 cap, you can do weapon tree 90, light 90, ice 90, and till have fire 30. Or you could do like weapon 90, light X, fire X, and ice 60. Or something like that...I dunno, im so confuzzled...
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Egg
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:39 pm |
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If you're a spear nuker I would not suggest light imbue. You'd be an impotent nuker.
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mmsicis
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:12 pm |
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Imbue bit lower . AND LIGHT NUKE WIL BE STRONGEST NUKE AFTER UPDATE. AT 80 and at 90. the 3rd book of light nuke. is monster. at 90 there will be 4th also.
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William-CL
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:54 am |
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mmsicis wrote: Imbue bit lower . AND LIGHT NUKE WIL BE STRONGEST NUKE AFTER UPDATE. AT 80 and at 90. the 3rd book of light nuke. is monster. at 90 there will be 4th also. FYI Fire nukes will always be stronger, it's just the way it is. But Light tree is good for INT cause of the mag incease buff. And light Imbue lowers parry ratio making you do more damage. Fire should be used for Str cause of the str buff and extra damage cause STR chars do a little less damage.
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Ell
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:30 am |
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Blackdragon6 wrote: mmsicis wrote: Imbue bit lower . AND LIGHT NUKE WIL BE STRONGEST NUKE AFTER UPDATE. AT 80 and at 90. the 3rd book of light nuke. is monster. at 90 there will be 4th also. FYI Fire nukes will always be stronger, it's just the way it is. But Light tree is good for INT cause of the mag incease buff. And light Imbue lowers parry ratio making you do more damage. Fire should be used for Str cause of the str buff and extra damage cause STR chars do a little less damage.
Have you looked at the numbers for either nukes? Light does more possible damage but has lower minimum damage while fire has lower possible damage but higher minimum damage.
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:58 am |
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Blackdragon6 wrote: mmsicis wrote: Imbue bit lower . AND LIGHT NUKE WIL BE STRONGEST NUKE AFTER UPDATE. AT 80 and at 90. the 3rd book of light nuke. is monster. at 90 there will be 4th also. FYI Fire nukes will always be stronger, it's just the way it is. But Light tree is good for INT cause of the mag incease buff. And light Imbue lowers parry ratio making you do more damage. Fire should be used for Str cause of the str buff and extra damage cause STR chars do a little less damage.
You're wrong. Lightning nuke is stronger than fire nuke. Only reason people say fire nuke is stronger now is because the new light nuke book isn't out yet.
Lightning however also has the chance of hitting lower than fire.
Ex:
Fire nuke: 100~200 Damage
Light nuke: 95~210 Damage
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kevv
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:54 am |
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Im gonna be farming soon and will have book two of both fire and light imbue maxed so i'll post the results of that soon to compare the dmg. To my knowledge the difference isn't big, same with the nukes.
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Fizle_NL
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:52 am |
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SHould i go for de extra defnece from ice and take cold and lightning and heuksal OR Light Fire and heuksal?
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sronoob
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:43 pm |
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well the difference between fire n light is that new boks of nuke, light has 300% still yet new fire nuke book has lower than 300%... besides that light mag buff adds alot of dmg too.. so i can say light tree is most important 
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Egg
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:30 pm |
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Every nuker should be maxed on the light tree no matter the imbue because of mag buff and nukes.
But the real argument is whether or not to use a lighting imbue or to max out fire for the fire imbue.
Fire imbue gives the most damage whether it's applied to fire or light nukes.
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flexo
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:05 pm |
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@pinoyplaya
lol no i don't get it. But it's late now.. i'll read it back later.
@[SD]Rainigul
lol @ your sig
@ all
the way i was thinking it will be after the new skills is
light will be the big mag dmg dealer with mag increase buff, and strongest nd the speed.
Fire will have a high mag def and phy dmg and strongest imbue.
And well cold.. personaly i wouldn't let that mana shield go for the world.
So it's either more offensive and less def, but you'll have your speed to avoid getting hit too much with lightning. So you'll do best in support.
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more defensive, slower but more range with fire. Ow and your KD and stabs will be powerfull. Wich is maybe even more used then nukes when going 1vs1. Wich makes this one do beter in 1vs1.
does this all make any sense?? or am i missing something here?
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Ell
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:53 pm |
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pinoyplaya wrote: Lighting imbue is good especially when u use skills that has its own status effects such as cold nukes where it freezes enemy.
So, say the second cold nuke, it has 5 penetrations and has i believe 20% freeze and 30% slow down effect.
With lightning imbue, it will really do 40% freeze and 60% slow down effect because the lightning imbue passes that to the nearby enemies also....
Hard to explain but here's a situation.......
Say your attacking a mob using the first nuke which is not an aoe. Now theres another mob next to the mob you are attacking and u use lightning imbue.
Mob 1 is the one you are attacking and mob 2 is the mob you are not attacking..........
When you nuke mob 1 with cold nuke first book using lightning imbue, the chances of freeze is only 20% and 30% slow...... now mob 2 which is next to mob 1 will also have that same chances of 20% freeze and 30% slow if its close enough to be hit by the lightning imbue.
With the second nuke for cold, since it has 5 penetrations, the chances on the mobs are twice as much with lightning imbue except for the actual mob you are attacking which is not going to be affected.
Get it?
so lightning imbue is good. hehe
Or you can attract unwanted mobs and get pwned. Especially when fighting giants.
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ln
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:16 pm |
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heh heh ... some just cannot handle a pure int nuker.
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Fizle_NL
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:33 pm |
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Oh btw. Im a SPear nuker. so i dont use the kd and stab 
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Monk1690
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:34 pm |
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Nobody say you have to get these skills in parallel (as in use your sp on all the trees all at once); why not get fire later (i.e. in series) if you find your dmg is not enough at higher lvls; funny though, never heard a pure int spear complaints about not enough dmg (only about dying too much); in fact, some even sacrfice dmg for tank-ability by being a 90% mag balance int spear nuker.
In the intermediate lvls light is still the most important tree for all pure ints as someone already said earlier regardless of the updates. You'll be in armor for most cases; you'll definitely grasswalk to... run away!  About attracting mobs with light; it's actually quite useful for farming; kill many mobs at once; you do have a few spear skills that can hit mulitiple targets to finish off mobs, i.e. ghost spear and heuksal spear (which no body likes for some reason).
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