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do you put the game over religon?
Poll ended at Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:19 pm
yes 23%  23%  [ 23 ]
no 31%  31%  [ 30 ]
i think pixels dont count as a real picture 12%  12%  [ 12 ]
im atheist but i dont support using religon in games 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
i hate everyone in game and i hate religish people 12%  12%  [ 12 ]
im a strong supporter of my religon i dont use cleric or euro int players because of that 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
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do you put your religon over the game or do you think pixels do not count as a insult or premurse to your religon?

like the satanic mosique in hotan or the muslamic symbol on some muslum npcs or the fact that you use so called "godly powers" cleric or int euro player. do you ever wonder why you dont see much buddist or other asian religish things in sro YET you see plenty from other cultures? and they refuse to chainge it.
please dont make ignorant comments if you dont agree put in a appropriate manner.

(personally i think no matter if its a picture, pixels, or somone in real life that it can in fact beat down your own religon and to all you christans out there using euro int if you care about your religon you should stop using the charicter)





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can u post the the link at least so I can see the mosque?

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im sorry but when i logg in ill take a ss of the it


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The power of the clerics come from their belief.

Screw religion. Play the game.

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Nope i dont care ,...... Is a game not a religon game..

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Satanic mosque?

If you look in china and DW your see plenty of Buddhist things you probably just don't know what your looking at.

The only thing i have a problem with is joymax calling the next race Islam when it should be Arab

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Nope i dont care ,...... Is a game not a religon game..


you would not know how mistaken you are. and yay 500th post!!

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The only thing i have a problem with is joymax calling the next race Islam when it should be Arab


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Muslims are emo. If they don't like it, they should quit. I sure as hell wouldn't change it just because they are so stubborn.


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do you put your religon over the game or do you think pixels do not count as a insult or premurse to your religon?

like the satanic mosique in hotan or the muslamic symbol on some muslum npcs or the fact that you use so called "godly powers" cleric or int euro player. do you ever wonder why you dont see much buddist or other asian religish things in sro YET you see plenty from other cultures? and they refuse to chainge it.
please dont make ignorant comments if you dont agree put in a appropriate manner.

(personally i think no matter if its a picture, pixels, or somone in real life that it can in fact beat down your own religon and to all you christans out there using euro int if you care about your religon you should stop using the charicter)





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Let me start off by saying my religion from birth falls under the blanket term of 'Paganism', so this is where my point of view comes from:

If it bothers you, don't play it. It's a made-up world set in semi-realistic places. There is no one prevailing religion simply because Joymax wishes to appeal to as many people as possible. Yes, there are allusions to certain religious affiliations (the one NPC wearing clothes with something in Arabic about god), but nothing that really says "LOOK AT ME!!" The game is more of a cultural infusion than anything else.

... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.

Before this is brought up, the cross is not a symbol exclusive to Christianity. The Christians have borrowed much of their symbology, as well as mythology, from other sources, so seeing a cross in relation to healing is not shocking when seen with an outside view. Just as seeing a Hexagram being used for elemental magic doesn't surprise, or offend, me. It's a recognized symbol for what it is.

You do actually see more Asian mythology than you think. The Stone Ghosts, ofuda (first three robe talismans and what the zombie girl character has on her forehead) and Water Ghosts are all staples of Asian culture and mythology.

Personally, I've always wondered why people get so offended at the way their religion is depicted in fantasy. It's just that: fantasy. Not real. So don't stress about it. If you don't like what you see, move on to something you agree with.

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Hmm I personnaly think the muslims are a bit whiney. They go and cry when someone says something about theyre religion,
whilst the hardcore muslims are like "kill every non-muslim"

Just my opinion, ignore it if you dont agree :)

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What does that even say?

And also, come on, this is a game >.<.

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Nope i dont care ,...... Is a game not a religon game..


you would not know how mistaken you are. and yay 500th post!!


whatever......... I dont care ,only no one are evil to my friends or me .

oh congrats then for yours 500th post hehehehe...

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Hmm I personnaly think the muslims are a bit whiney. They go and cry when someone says something about theyre religion,
whilst the hardcore muslims are like "kill every non-muslim"

Just my opinion, ignore it if you dont agree :)



Wrong I think....... It's Americans and Europeans that they want to kill and alot of ppl want to kill Americans and Europeans not just muslims. And it's against muslim religion to draw the prophet and w/e also i wonder what a satanic mosque looks like and there is no such thing as Satan in Islam just Shaitan

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i cant belive alot of your would put a game over religon but i respect your thinking so i wont judge you.


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... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.



i meant the frozen church under penon spawn area

it is the church of hades in 1412 a man named dominik freshay died for 12 hours and came back to life and fromed that church it looks EXACTLY the same. and it was created in africa no were close to europe or nowtime hotan
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The power of the clerics come from their belief.

Screw religion. Play the game.



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... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.

The places portraited on the game ARE real. The game was based on the real world.

Jangan
Donwhang
Hotan
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Constantinople
Donwhang Caves
Taklamakan
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If you check these links, you'll see A LOT is based on the real stuff. It's not Joymax's fault the reality sucks.

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Religion... One of the stupidest things ever (no offence religious ppl, just my opinion :wink: )
I hate when those church leaders (or whatever they're called) whine and try to affect peoples' lifes, goverment etc.


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maxietheboss wrote:
Hmm I personnaly think the muslims are a bit whiney. They go and cry when someone says something about theyre religion,
whilst the hardcore muslims are like "kill every non-muslim"

Just my opinion, ignore it if you dont agree :)



Wrong I think....... It's Americans and Europeans that they want to kill and alot of ppl want to kill Americans and Europeans not just muslims. And it's against muslim religion to draw the prophet and w/e also i wonder what a satanic mosque looks like and there is no such thing as Satan in Islam just Shaitan


Everyone really must remember there are extremists in everything. Not all Americans and Europeans want to kill everything we see, and I've met some really cool Muslims in my day. The majority of war and large-scale fighting is generally caused by: need (food and shelter, often sought by an impoverished lower class), want (noble - abolishment of a forced lower class. Of late it seems to be about greed by the rich), and religion (the crusades, Muslim fundamentalists who wish to start Jihad, etc.).

I REALLY want to see this supposed "Satanic mosque" now...

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Well, i think JM made a effort to make sure the areas correspond to there religion. Did any of u ever go north 2 the monastery of dhonwang? IT has 3 huge buddha statues. There are many buddhist allusions in Jangan and dhonwang. Like wise Constantinople has the Hagia Sophia, which was then a huge Christian Church, tho after the turks conquered it (as they are conquering SRO :P) they made it into a mosque. Samarkand is muslim, as Samarkand was a prominent Islamic capital in its day.

My only problem is hotan, which was located in the hymalayas, in india. By the time of the silkroads prominence, Hotan should have been hindu, not Islam, for Islam hadnt spread to north india during the time of the silkroad.

Also, If any1 ever reads the descrription of euro skillz and stuff, it says THEY DRAW POWER FROM THE GREEK AND ROMAN GODS. And any1 who has read the DaVinci Code knows that the early church satanized all the Old religion symbols.

But all in all, its a game, so play it and have fun, who gives an eff about the accuracy?

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it's a game, don't bring religion into a virtual world. we log on the have fun, chat wit ppl of all races and religions, and we dun give a shit either.

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do you put your religon over the game or do you think pixels do not count as a insult or premurse to your religon?

like the satanic mosique in hotan or the muslamic symbol on some muslum npcs or the fact that you use so called "godly powers" cleric or int euro player. do you ever wonder why you dont see much buddist or other asian religish things in sro YET you see plenty from other cultures? and they refuse to chainge it.
please dont make ignorant comments if you dont agree put in a appropriate manner.

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Let me start off by saying my religion from birth falls under the blanket term of 'Paganism', so this is where my point of view comes from:

If it bothers you, don't play it. It's a made-up world set in semi-realistic places. There is no one prevailing religion simply because Joymax wishes to appeal to as many people as possible. Yes, there are allusions to certain religious affiliations (the one NPC wearing clothes with something in Arabic about god), but nothing that really says "LOOK AT ME!!" The game is more of a cultural infusion than anything else.

... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.

Before this is brought up, the cross is not a symbol exclusive to Christianity. The Christians have borrowed much of their symbology, as well as mythology, from other sources, so seeing a cross in relation to healing is not shocking when seen with an outside view. Just as seeing a Hexagram being used for elemental magic doesn't surprise, or offend, me. It's a recognized symbol for what it is.

You do actually see more Asian mythology than you think. The Stone Ghosts, ofuda (first three robe talismans and what the zombie girl character has on her forehead) and Water Ghosts are all staples of Asian culture and mythology.

Personally, I've always wondered why people get so offended at the way their religion is depicted in fantasy. It's just that: fantasy. Not real. So don't stress about it. If you don't like what you see, move on to something you agree with.


be a little bit more open minded will you. Some ppl in the game will look for any reason to hate you so when they see something in your religion that discredits you and your religion they will post it everywhere especially since sro is based on a real life peice of history.I've been doing some research and it does in fact say that silkroad starts from Chan'an( Jangan) to Coninstinople and all the cities in the game are included in the actual silkroad. So there actually is a real Talkamankan Desert and all the other cities are real. So if players find that out it will discredit you and your religion more because most of the structures in the game are not there coincidently but are actually based on something. So this game is actually about one of the realest fantasy mmorpg games that U will ever play.

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im happy to see sophisticated and idealed comments but i still see to presurve my self and not condem to soul mutilation by giving up to a game so i will always stay away from those things


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... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.

The places portraited on the game ARE real. The game was based on the real world.

Jangan
Donwhang
Hotan
Samarkand
Constantinople
Donwhang Caves
Taklamakan
Karakoram

If you check these links, you'll see A LOT is based on the real stuff. It's not Joymax's fault the reality sucks.


Now that i see it, I think JM did a great job in makeing the cities look like there real world counterparts! Samarkand, Hotan, Dunhuang and Jangan all look liek there real world counterparts!

GOOD JOB JOYMAX!!!

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im happy to see sophisticated and idealed comments but i still see to presurve my self and not condem to soul mutilation by giving up to a game so i will always stay away from those things

If that is your belief, go right ahead! Your belief is what is important to you!

I just get angered when people try to impose their beliefs. Not saying you're doing that but... Well, any religion themed discussion makes me go that way. -_-'

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... Satanic mosque? Why do I have a feeling you're VERY mistaken on that one. As for the Muslim influences, the game DOES take place in what amounts to the Middle East, after all. It's only natural to see images that correspond with that area. Same in Jangan- looks Chinese, but I doubt the place ever actually existed.

The places portraited on the game ARE real. The game was based on the real world.

Jangan
Donwhang
Hotan
Samarkand
Constantinople
Donwhang Caves
Taklamakan
Karakoram

If you check these links, you'll see A LOT is based on the real stuff. It's not Joymax's fault the reality sucks.


I should have been clearer. =p I know they exist, just not exactly how they're shown in-game. Kind of like the old Tengai Makyou/ Far East of Eden series.

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where is the option "its just a Farking game"?

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the fact that this is a game means you can CENSOR things i wouldint care if they dubbed a smiley face on everything that delt with religons its just if your going to put religish things in sro make shure they dont offend somone


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