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do you put the game over religon?
Poll ended at Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:19 pm
yes 23%  23%  [ 23 ]
no 31%  31%  [ 30 ]
i think pixels dont count as a real picture 12%  12%  [ 12 ]
im atheist but i dont support using religon in games 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
i hate everyone in game and i hate religish people 12%  12%  [ 12 ]
im a strong supporter of my religon i dont use cleric or euro int players because of that 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
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sadly joymax wont do anything to fix it.

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Religion is good for morals, but when it,( and by it, i mean almost every religion, most importantly christianity and islam) claims to be so holy, i can only laugh. Religion is the most unholy, backwards, idiotic and destructful thing humans have yet to come up with. Uncountable deaths have occured in the name of so called religions. Jihads by the muslims, crusades by the christians to name the most significant. Religion has more detrimental outcomes on human history than they did beneficial. Religion has taught hate, savagery, blind ignorance, and disrespect. Just look at this topic, and see people getting worked up about religion. Such hypocrits.

i don't think that u belongs to any religion :x
ur place is in hell

You see, your last line is the source of all troubles.

hi is saynig that all the religions is unholy i don't think that someone like him will be in heaven :x
so why my last line is the source of the troubels

Because you're going against HIS beliefs, that neither Heaven nor Hell exist.

ok he's free to do anything but not insult my religion
and what he is beliefs in


your proving my point. And the unthinkable death toll in the name of religion isnt a belief, its a fact, a very sad fact. As is the fact that corruption runs deep into all religions.

what's ur religion?


Mine? technically christianity, but truthfully nothing, but im going to tell you that the christian church is very corrupt, as is most others.

I believe there is a bigger being, but do not think that we know who or what it is. No burning bush talked to me, or some "prophet" showed true divinity to convince me of anything. Almost all religions go way back, back when humanity was a new born on earth. People were ignorant, couldnt explain things. Egyptians explained the sun as a god, and the rain, as most religions explained natural occurences and phenomanas as a god or divine power. Nothing convinces me that someone who prolly didnt have all their apples in the right basket was a true prophet. People today claim to be prophets of god, and that they spoke with him, what are they? mentally insane in most cases. How do YOU know that jesus christ is the son of god (chrisitans) or just a prophet (islam), because some ancient scripture dating back to the times when humanity was in a state of bliss ignorance told you so?

Be a good citizen, dont kill people, dont steal, these and many more morals from religion are useful, but what is NOT useful,and very hypocritical is a muslim running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up in the name of jihad, thinking that there will be a spot in heaven for him. How sadly mistaken. What is NOT holy, is christians going on a crusade to isreal and killing tons of people senselessly because the pope decreed it to be the word of god.

During the middle ages, the christian church would offer salvation to the dammed if they payed the church a fee. As if those priests had the divine power to waiver ones sins away with meaningless gold and coins. Corrupt? YES!

I belong to no religion to be exact, i merely believe there is something greater, and no one truthfully knows what.

religion is corrupt, religion causes senseless hate and killings, more that one could ever fathom.

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I'm atheist so all ur religion post is an insult to me.
So what are you say now.
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lmao all this over a game, this game is based on the 'Silkroad' long time ago, and 'Silkroad' ran through asia, africa and europe, so why is it so suprising this games includes the features of the original 'Silkroad'?


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this thread is not talking about what religon is offended the most or least its about how joymax puts these things in silkroad and doesint fix them

what really you want they fix..Remember is a game you cant put in religon on it only for you want it..

o.O and what you answer on yours poll?

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yes its just a farking game ffs.

and why the hell would you care... only if you had no life tbh.


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like i said, the original silkroad inquired all these different religions from diff parts of the world, JM is making the game mre realistic...........


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Vindicator wrote:
K a R e E m wrote:
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Religion is good for morals, but when it,( and by it, i mean almost every religion, most importantly christianity and islam) claims to be so holy, i can only laugh. Religion is the most unholy, backwards, idiotic and destructful thing humans have yet to come up with. Uncountable deaths have occured in the name of so called religions. Jihads by the muslims, crusades by the christians to name the most significant. Religion has more detrimental outcomes on human history than they did beneficial. Religion has taught hate, savagery, blind ignorance, and disrespect. Just look at this topic, and see people getting worked up about religion. Such hypocrits.

i don't think that u belongs to any religion :x
ur place is in hell

You see, your last line is the source of all troubles.


I completely agree with vindicator-religion is one big misconception, or in other words, a big crime to the world.

However, the portrayal of religion on an online game, to me, is completely acceptable. Because SRO is based upon historical background and different races, it is close to impossible to exclude religion in the game without making it realistic. Joymax has done nothing wrong, and personally, I like it. Its great to see all kinds of monuments and churches you would never see often, even if it is just in a game.
hi is saynig that all the religions is unholy i don't think that someone like him will be in heaven :x
so why my last line is the source of the troubels

Because you're going against HIS beliefs, that neither Heaven nor Hell exist.

ok he's free to do anything but not insult my religion
and what he is beliefs in


your proving my point. And the unthinkable death toll in the name of religion isnt a belief, its a fact, a very sad fact. As is the fact that corruption runs deep into all religions.

what's ur religion?


Mine? technically christianity, but truthfully nothing, but im going to tell you that the christian church is very corrupt, as is most others.

I believe there is a bigger being, but do not think that we know who or what it is. No burning bush talked to me, or some "prophet" showed true divinity to convince me of anything. Almost all religions go way back, back when humanity was a new born on earth. People were ignorant, couldnt explain things. Egyptians explained the sun as a god, and the rain, as most religions explained natural occurences and phenomanas as a god or divine power. Nothing convinces me that someone who prolly didnt have all their apples in the right basket was a true prophet. People today claim to be prophets of god, and that they spoke with him, what are they? mentally insane in most cases. How do YOU know that jesus christ is the son of god (chrisitans) or just a prophet (islam), because some ancient scripture dating back to the times when humanity was in a state of bliss ignorance told you so?

Be a good citizen, dont kill people, dont steal, these and many more morals from religion are useful, but what is NOT useful,and very hypocritical is a muslim running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up in the name of jihad, thinking that there will be a spot in heaven for him. How sadly mistaken. What is NOT holy, is christians going on a crusade to isreal and killing tons of people senselessly because the pope decreed it to be the word of god.

During the middle ages, the christian church would offer salvation to the dammed if they payed the church a fee. As if those priests had the divine power to waiver ones sins away with meaningless gold and coins. Corrupt? YES!

I belong to no religion to be exact, i merely believe there is something greater, and no one truthfully knows what.

religion is corrupt, religion causes senseless hate and killings, more that one could ever fathom.


I completely agree with vindicator-religion is one big misconception, or in other words, a big crime to the world.

However, the portrayal of religion on an online game, to me, is completely acceptable. Because SRO is based upon historical background and different races, it is close to impossible to exclude religion in the game without making it realistic. Joymax has done nothing wrong, and personally, I like it. Its great to see all kinds of monuments and churches you would never see often, even if it is just in a game.

And this religion war that has spawned here is pretty sad. This topic clearly stated that no attack would be made on religion itself, yet, members are squabbling over the righteousness of religion. Shame.

Religion has just split opnions in this forum right now. And as vindicator said in his last sentence, religion sucks.

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Vindicator wrote:
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K a R e E m wrote:
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Religion is good for morals, but when it,( and by it, i mean almost every religion, most importantly christianity and islam) claims to be so holy, i can only laugh. Religion is the most unholy, backwards, idiotic and destructful thing humans have yet to come up with. Uncountable deaths have occured in the name of so called religions. Jihads by the muslims, crusades by the christians to name the most significant. Religion has more detrimental outcomes on human history than they did beneficial. Religion has taught hate, savagery, blind ignorance, and disrespect. Just look at this topic, and see people getting worked up about religion. Such hypocrits.

i don't think that u belongs to any religion :x
ur place is in hell

You see, your last line is the source of all troubles.

hi is saynig that all the religions is unholy i don't think that someone like him will be in heaven :x
so why my last line is the source of the troubels

Because you're going against HIS beliefs, that neither Heaven nor Hell exist.

ok he's free to do anything but not insult my religion
and what he is beliefs in


your proving my point. And the unthinkable death toll in the name of religion isnt a belief, its a fact, a very sad fact. As is the fact that corruption runs deep into all religions.

what's ur religion?


Mine? technically christianity, but truthfully nothing, but im going to tell you that the christian church is very corrupt, as is most others.

I believe there is a bigger being, but do not think that we know who or what it is. No burning bush talked to me, or some "prophet" showed true divinity to convince me of anything. Almost all religions go way back, back when humanity was a new born on earth. People were ignorant, couldnt explain things. Egyptians explained the sun as a god, and the rain, as most religions explained natural occurences and phenomanas as a god or divine power. Nothing convinces me that someone who prolly didnt have all their apples in the right basket was a true prophet. People today claim to be prophets of god, and that they spoke with him, what are they? mentally insane in most cases. How do YOU know that jesus christ is the son of god (chrisitans) or just a prophet (islam), because some ancient scripture dating back to the times when humanity was in a state of bliss ignorance told you so?

Be a good citizen, dont kill people, dont steal, these and many more morals from religion are useful, but what is NOT useful,and very hypocritical is a muslim running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up in the name of jihad, thinking that there will be a spot in heaven for him. How sadly mistaken. What is NOT holy, is christians going on a crusade to isreal and killing tons of people senselessly because the pope decreed it to be the word of god.

During the middle ages, the christian church would offer salvation to the dammed if they payed the church a fee. As if those priests had the divine power to waiver ones sins away with meaningless gold and coins. Corrupt? YES!

I belong to no religion to be exact, i merely believe there is something greater, and no one truthfully knows what.

religion is corrupt, religion causes senseless hate and killings, more that one could ever fathom.



you guys see that ^^
i wouldve said that, if i hadnt been on mars all day trying to solo 2 lvl 20 with a euro :(

dammit ADVENT LVL UP!!

anyhoo

this post made me rofl.
sadly some form of blind faith will persist

i myself am currently agnostic
alot better than the bloody catholic background i used 2 defend
everytime some jerkoff said something about the virgin mary.

but im different now.
idc anymore
after reading a shizload of christian, jewish, muslim, and buddhist history
I DONT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANY FORM OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

i believe in a greater power, that i like to call the uniform conscience.
but i sure as hell am not leaving my house friday saturday OR sunday to visit a mosque temple or church.

also
nice1 sama98b 8)

see now everyone is offended
also thats not what the midgets pants say you LIER
it says something about the midget forgiving sin.
basically the pants says the midget is allah.

thats why the topic starter wont post links or pictures, he fears some1 that reads arabic might blow him away

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I'm atheist so all ur religion post is an insult to me.
So what are you say now.
Who has the right ...


thats kind of ignorant thats just like saying because somone has a religon and speaks about it then you are offended...


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this thread is not talking about what religon is offended the most or least its about how joymax puts these things in silkroad and doesint fix them

what really you want they fix..Remember is a game you cant put in religon on it only for you want it..

o.O and what you answer on yours poll?


i answered i that i am a strong supporter of my religon and i dont use cleric or euro int's(bard isint in those catigorys)


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yes its just a farking game ffs.

and why the hell would you care... only if you had no life tbh.


whell sine no one knows me in srf i guess ill tell you

im 27 im 2 years away from a docterate i have a 2 week vacation i play sro about 3 hours a day i have a girlfriend i go to partys clubs and etc
and what does strong religon have to do with a life? its like saying

"hey look at the priest praying and sitting at the church all day, he must not have a life!"


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billbob wrote:
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this thread is not talking about what religon is offended the most or least its about how joymax puts these things in silkroad and doesint fix them

what really you want they fix..Remember is a game you cant put in religon on it only for you want it..

o.O and what you answer on yours poll?


i answered i that i am a strong supporter of my religon and i dont use cleric or euro int's(bard isint in those catigorys)


Holy shit well ..
I see SRO like a game nothing else, I dont care what they take it from what country or race whatever ,I dont care Only it is a good game to play , Only nobody be evil on there on me and my friends..........Is most important not religon in the game.

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BlackFox wrote:
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this thread is not talking about what religon is offended the most or least its about how joymax puts these things in silkroad and doesint fix them

what really you want they fix..Remember is a game you cant put in religon on it only for you want it..

o.O and what you answer on yours poll?


i answered i that i am a strong supporter of my religon and i dont use cleric or euro int's(bard isint in those catigorys)


Holy shit well ..
I see SRO like a game nothing else, I dont care what they take it from what country or race whatever ,I dont care Only it is a good game to play , Only nobody be evil on there on me and my friends..........Is most important not religon in the game.


i respect that and alot of people think like that i have no problem with it but just to tell you its hard to find mmorpgs tht arent full of satanic stuff i first played runescape because it was complete fiction but it was ugly so i turned to WoW but i was tired of 8 year olds and asian sweatshop workers
so now i play this game and i just wanted to acknolage to everyone the wrongs of joymax and them not studying symbols before they copy-paste it in the game


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This is actually a pretty healthy topic. Mind you, healthy does not necessarily mean nice. It is useful. Bringing up such a controversial matter is important in agreeing upon whether SRO is ethically and morally a "right" game.

Thumbs up for those adding helpful opinions to the thread. Shame on those spitting fire about how this religion is better than another.

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yea, but there are always bad apples in the tree of life :)


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see now everyone is offended
also thats not what the midgets pants say you LIER
it says something about the midget forgiving sin.
basically the pants says the midget is allah.

thats why the topic starter wont post links or pictures, he fears some1 that reads arabic might blow him away


That's what this was about!? I read about the same thing on the official forums a week or two ago. The whole argument was the phrase on the midget's clothing was offensive because, to Muslims, no one but Allah can forgive sin.

billbob, you're gonna have to really back up your claims about pretty much everything you've been saying. You wrote on page two:

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THIS WHOLE THIONGS STARTED FROM THI MIDGIT BOATER IN HOTAN HE HAS A SIGN THAT MEANS "i hate muslim and i kill for fun" it is all around the buildings


I'd like to know why you think it says this. Also, please provide links to what you claim is the Church of Hades and "Dominik Freshay". I can find nothing on either one, but you've piqued my interest in the matter.

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ok, this is completely off-topic but, u know what really sucks? i wanna sleep & then tomorrow i'll have like 5 pages to read on this thread :P
G'nite everyone *yawns*

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yes its just a farking game ffs.

and why the hell would you care... only if you had no life tbh.


whell sine no one knows me in srf i guess ill tell you

im 27 im 2 years away from a docterate i have a 2 week vacation i play sro about 3 hours a day i have a girlfriend i go to partys clubs and etc
and what does strong religon have to do with a life? its like saying

"hey look at the priest praying and sitting at the church all day, he must not have a life!"



i invented the internet ...and also streets. what's the point? :roll:

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that thread was my topic starter and i decided to branch out a few things like see what peps belive in and i diddint not show pictures because i thoght peps who dog me i diddint show pictures because im_a_bot clarified the matter and thats not the only thing im complaining about that is just one thing of many.


find somone or somthing that knows alot about bibles "Dominik Freshay" might come i diddint get it from the internet i read in class when a person showed it to me.


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Religion is good for morals, but when it,( and by it, i mean almost every religion, most importantly christianity and islam) claims to be so holy, i can only laugh. Religion is the most unholy, backwards, idiotic and destructful thing humans have yet to come up with. Uncountable deaths have occured in the name of so called religions. Jihads by the muslims, crusades by the christians to name the most significant. Religion has more detrimental outcomes on human history than they did beneficial. Religion has taught hate, savagery, blind ignorance, and disrespect. Just look at this topic, and see people getting worked up about religion. Such hypocrits.

i don't think that u belongs to any religion :x
ur place is in hell

You see, your last line is the source of all troubles.

hi is saynig that all the religions is unholy i don't think that someone like him will be in heaven :x
so why my last line is the source of the troubels

Because you're going against HIS beliefs, that neither Heaven nor Hell exist.

ok he's free to do anything but not insult my religion
and what he is beliefs in


your proving my point. And the unthinkable death toll in the name of religion isnt a belief, its a fact, a very sad fact. As is the fact that corruption runs deep into all religions.

what's ur religion?


Mine? technically christianity, but truthfully nothing, but im going to tell you that the christian church is very corrupt, as is most others.

I believe there is a bigger being, but do not think that we know who or what it is. No burning bush talked to me, or some "prophet" showed true divinity to convince me of anything. Almost all religions go way back, back when humanity was a new born on earth. People were ignorant, couldnt explain things. Egyptians explained the sun as a god, and the rain, as most religions explained natural occurences and phenomanas as a god or divine power. Nothing convinces me that someone who prolly didnt have all their apples in the right basket was a true prophet. People today claim to be prophets of god, and that they spoke with him, what are they? mentally insane in most cases. How do YOU know that jesus christ is the son of god (chrisitans) or just a prophet (islam), because some ancient scripture dating back to the times when humanity was in a state of bliss ignorance told you so?

Be a good citizen, dont kill people, dont steal, these and many more morals from religion are useful, but what is NOT useful,and very hypocritical is a muslim running into a crowd of people and blowing himself up in the name of jihad, thinking that there will be a spot in heaven for him. How sadly mistaken. What is NOT holy, is christians going on a crusade to isreal and killing tons of people senselessly because the pope decreed it to be the word of god.

During the middle ages, the christian church would offer salvation to the dammed if they payed the church a fee. As if those priests had the divine power to waiver ones sins away with meaningless gold and coins. Corrupt? YES!

I belong to no religion to be exact, i merely believe there is something greater, and no one truthfully knows what.

religion is corrupt, religion causes senseless hate and killings, more that one could ever fathom.

religions are corrupt....
do u think that whenu leave ur religion u solve the proplem?
no u must have some faith and at least don't say i don't belong to any religion
and we are out of the main topic
but what's typed in arabic in sro
i wanna a screenshot i speak arabic
but i've never gone to hotan i'm 3x level

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im happy to see so many post of what people think in this matter :)
althogh some are mean or inappropriate. i have to go i will talk later


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oh i speak arabic too.....i'm Egyptian....DOH..lol

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i wana go to egpyt :( btw on topic if your 3X you can make it to the dock just get on a horse and ride down most the mobs are spread out

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this thread is not talking about what religon is offended the most or least its about how joymax puts these things in silkroad and doesint fix them

what really you want they fix..Remember is a game you cant put in religon on it only for you want it..

o.O and what you answer on yours poll?


i answered i that i am a strong supporter of my religon and i dont use cleric or euro int's(bard isint in those catigorys)


Holy shit well ..
I see SRO like a game nothing else, I dont care what they take it from what country or race whatever ,I dont care Only it is a good game to play , Only nobody be evil on there on me and my friends..........Is most important not religon in the game.


i respect that and alot of people think like that i have no problem with it but just to tell you its hard to find mmorpgs tht arent full of satanic stuff i first played runescape because it was complete fiction but it was ugly so i turned to WoW but i was tired of 8 year olds and asian sweatshop workers
so now i play this game and i just wanted to acknolage to everyone the wrongs of joymax and them not studying symbols before they copy-paste it in the game

well i dont really think they can do nothing about it now .. And i dont think is so easy make a game like all want it for sure...well only you must accept it or try to find other game ..even if is hard.

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i wana go to egpyt :( btw on topic if your 3X you can make it to the dock just get on a horse and ride down most the mobs are spread out

it's reaaaaaally hard to login with my very old pc
plz somone get some screenshots i wanna see the source of this topic
And welcome egyptian :D eshta

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