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PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 12:05 am 
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elnawawi wrote:
pure int have big problem with str attacks that do big damge on int build

Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. This is why they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.

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And to make sure that I'm not a big noob and have some dreams about the builds I went to discuss that with the best player in my server ...
his name is "BigBoss" he is a glavier pure str and he was the second man to reach lvl 80 after a pure int spear called "_Foxy_" .. our BigBoss no one owned him before in the server .. he play with 72+5 glavie and even +9 spear +5 full gear can't beat him .. (no sun in our server) ..

I asked him : why no one can win you in this server ?
he : because there is no good build here ..
me : but _ACID 1:5 INT s/s can win you ..
he : acid is my friend , we are the same country .. but even hybird s/s can't win ..
me : why ?
he : hybird s/s with 11 k HP is a noob build .. he don't deal such big damge and haven't enough HP ..
me : but he is the best unique hunter id server ...
he : yes , he can take yarakan kill from any one but can't stand in pvp ...
me : so you see that hybird spear is better ?
he : yes , hybird spear with 13 k HP is very good , he can kill me ..
me : And what about hybird Bow ?
he : you mean 1:5 hybird ? I win Gangsta ( 30 - 5 ) he is 1:5 bow ..
me : no , I mean 80:80 phy:mag balance
he : oh , that's great build with 14.5 k HP , yeah he can win me too ... I will tell you .. In pvp :
--> 1) 80 : 80 bow
--> 2) hybird spear
--> 3) glavier
me : I expected that before ...
he : ok , I should go to sleep now .. bb

And this was the end of conversation .. you can go to hercules server and search about BigBoss and his guild " Dark_Born" under the union of Fox_River ..

I would have believed it if it a a screenshot, anyways being the first or second does not mean he's a veteran. It just means that he spends the most hours on grinding/b**. Funny how people can memorize the chat and not think of taking a screenshot.

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First I don't say that he is the best because he is the 2nd man reach 80 .. I said that because he own us all in the server ..

Second it's too easy to make a new charecter in hercules and ask him yourself to make sure he said that .. or you can ask all people about the best player in server .. you can find foxriver guild members everywhere and you can ask them ..

I always forget to screen shot the in-game-chat ..

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Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. This is why they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.


You need to prove this .. and remember that we talk about protector not garment ..

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elnawawi wrote:
First I don't say that he is the best because he is the 2nd man reach 80 .. I said that because he own us all in the server ..

Second it's too easy to make a new charecter in hercules and ask him yourself to make sure he said that .. or you can ask all people about the best player in server .. you can find foxriver guild members everywhere and you can ask them ..

I always forget to screen shot the in-game-chat ..

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Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. This is why they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.


You need to prove this .. and remember that we talk about protector not garment ..

Any Pure INT characters wanna share some thought on this?

For Christ's sakes, this is common knowledge. Don't just shout proof just because I did it. You're making yourself look dumb.

http://rev6.com/index.php?site=player&player=42949

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elnawawi wrote:
Oh ..
LiquidSmooth is a str hybird not 80 : 80 hybird ... But he isn't pure str ..
and he kill pure str easily ..



i like to pvp him....in that video he got +7 or better the other guys is +5 or better...it makes difference...and who no what kind gear he liquid wearing.... :D

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BakaFish wrote:
elnawawi wrote:
pure int have big problem with str attacks that do big damge on int build

Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. This is why they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.

elnawawi wrote:
And to make sure that I'm not a big noob and have some dreams about the builds I went to discuss that with the best player in my server ...
his name is "BigBoss" he is a glavier pure str and he was the second man to reach lvl 80 after a pure int spear called "_Foxy_" .. our BigBoss no one owned him before in the server .. he play with 72+5 glavie and even +9 spear +5 full gear can't beat him .. (no sun in our server) ..

I asked him : why no one can win you in this server ?
he : because there is no good build here ..
me : but _ACID 1:5 INT s/s can win you ..
he : acid is my friend , we are the same country .. but even hybird s/s can't win ..
me : why ?
he : hybird s/s with 11 k HP is a noob build .. he don't deal such big damge and haven't enough HP ..
me : but he is the best unique hunter id server ...
he : yes , he can take yarakan kill from any one but can't stand in pvp ...
me : so you see that hybird spear is better ?
he : yes , hybird spear with 13 k HP is very good , he can kill me ..
me : And what about hybird Bow ?
he : you mean 1:5 hybird ? I win Gangsta ( 30 - 5 ) he is 1:5 bow ..
me : no , I mean 80:80 phy:mag balance
he : oh , that's great build with 14.5 k HP , yeah he can win me too ... I will tell you .. In pvp :
--> 1) 80 : 80 bow
--> 2) hybird spear
--> 3) glavier
me : I expected that before ...
he : ok , I should go to sleep now .. bb

And this was the end of conversation .. you can go to hercules server and search about BigBoss and his guild " Dark_Born" under the union of Fox_River ..

I would have believed it if it a a screenshot, anyways being the first or second does not mean he's a veteran. It just means that he spends the most hours on grinding/b**. Funny how people can memorize the chat and not think of taking a screenshot.
no you wouldn't believe it, if there was a screenshot you said: photoshop editing


Bakafish, ur saying that a pure int spear user (in armour_ should have more phy defence than a full str char in garms...so you would crit LOWER on the full int spear than the full str...on page 2 of this thread you thought you could do higher then 14k damage on 80:80 bow, the problem is he has got even MORE phy defence than a pure int spear

*what am i missing here*?

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and you blamed me that i was saying the critical increase of an 80:80 bow was more than 1k?

btw the guy that said critical increase is 1k is wrong (even if the critical increase is in the game 1k) but you should say 10% higher...30% higher whatever...


critical increase of an 80:80 bow is around 30-35%

WTF?

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wouldn't a pure str have more phy defence becease of his stat ? (every level you put into str your phy defence is growing....common knowledge..)

Er... NO. I think i made a typo here.

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Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. Because they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.

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no you wouldn't believe it, if there was a screenshot you said: photoshop editing

Bakafish, ur saying that a pure int spear user (in armour_ should have more phy defence than a full str char in garms...so you would crit LOWER on the full int spear than the full str...on page 2 of this thread you thought you could do higher then 14k damage on 80:80 bow, the problem is he has got even MORE phy defence than a pure int spear

*what am i missing here*?

Physical defence: Pure INT S/S with Armors > Pure STR with Garments

Pure INT spear is just retarded in PVP. I don't know why you bring it up.

Unless you're planning to wear Armors, you won't have more defence than a pure INT S/S with Armors.

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BakaFish wrote:
Doctor_MOS wrote:
and you blamed me that i was saying the critical increase of an 80:80 bow was more than 1k?

btw the guy that said critical increase is 1k is wrong (even if the critical increase is in the game 1k) but you should say 10% higher...30% higher whatever...


critical increase of an 80:80 bow is around 30-35%

WTF?

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wouldn't a pure str have more phy defence becease of his stat ? (every level you put into str your phy defence is growing....common knowledge..)

Er... NO. I think i made a typo here.

BakaFish wrote:
Wrong, a good Pure INT should have more physical defence than a STR based. Because they wear armors, to have more defence to cover up for their low hp.

Fixed.
Doctor_MOS wrote:
no you wouldn't believe it, if there was a screenshot you said: photoshop editing

Bakafish, ur saying that a pure int spear user (in armour_ should have more phy defence than a full str char in garms...so you would crit LOWER on the full int spear than the full str...on page 2 of this thread you thought you could do higher then 14k damage on 80:80 bow, the problem is he has got even MORE phy defence than a pure int spear

*what am i missing here*?

Physical defence: Pure INT S/S with Armors > Pure STR with Garments
i don't know this, it would be great if a full int user would post his phy defence stat and a pure str glavie

so the question would be does an 80:80 bow in protector hasgot the same phy defence as a pure int spear in armour has?

Pure INT spear is just retarded in PVP. I don't know why you bring it up.
you're saying that a pure int in armour would have more phy defence than a pure str in garms...i just said pure int spear, so it could be compared to pure str glavie...

comparing a pure int s/s with a pure str glavie would be unfair, bcz of the shield he would have MORE phy defence

Unless you're planning to wear Armors, you won't have more defence than a pure INT S/S with Armors.


if you are correct on this, we've got a new question

does an 80:80 bow in ARMOURhave got enough mag defence against nukers?

sorry my badd


*sorry for bad english*

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If you wear garments, you should. Because with my Pure STR I can tank nukers with sosun sword/spear with +4/5 garment, without help from Snow shield.

EDIT: I don't give a damn what does this LV80 guy from elnawawi's server says. His statements can't be used as a proof.

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lol this thread is filled with a lots of pseudo info considered as facts :roll:


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ThiefzV2 wrote:
lol this thread is filled with a lots of pseudo info considered as facts :roll:
anythin usefull to mention?

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ThiefzV2 wrote:
lol this thread is filled with a lots of pseudo info considered as facts :roll:
anythin usefull to mention?

Suicide already.

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