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PostPosted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:13 am 
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I loled at the title. And yeah, it's just like typing, if you know where your numbers are, you should be able to get to them quickly. Same with the f keys.

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I rather finger my mouse. More enjoyable.

Going abit too far i think..

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Not that you guys give a crap, but I only use mouse. Like once or twice I use keys and didnt really notice a difference, except that when using fingers on keys, my hand will start to ache after a while (hmm carpal tunnel anyone)? So I only use my click. Besides, it takes forever for bow skills to launch.

Oh, all my main skills start from the left side. Like 0 is anti-devil, 9 is fire imbue, 8 is 4-arrow combo, etc for easier clicking. And my friend thought I was left handed when he logged into my char once. LOL.

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Simpel here, pressing the mob then pressing num-pad 1. And on :) But thats only for grinding though. In pvp i use my fingers :) If you play it a lot you can find the F1-F4 keys without any problem.

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Well.. my imbue button is on either one of the following keys: 3, 6, or 8.

3 for builds which require bar switching, 6 or 8 for those which don't.

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Index finger controlls 4, 5, 6 and 7, usually rests on 5.
Middle finger controlls 3.
Ring finger controlls 1 and 2 and switches to F2 for the buffs.

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Lol. My key layout? Heheh.

Ok, in resting possition.

Left Hand:
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = 1
Middle Finger = 2
Index Finger = 3
Thumb = Space Bar

Right Hand:
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = RMB
Middle Finger = Middle Mouse Button
Index Finger = LMB
Thumb = Useless.

During PvE and General Roaming
Left Hand
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = 1 and Tab F1 (4, 5, 6. When Space bar held down).
Middle Finger = 2, F2 (4, 5, 6. When space bar held down)
Index Finger = 3, 4, 5, C, V, G, Q, E, T, F3
Thumb = Space Bar

Right Hand
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = RMB
Middle Finger = Middle Mouse Button
Index Finger = LMB, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, U, I, P, N. (7, 8, 9, 0 When Space bar held down)
Thumb = Useless

During PvP
Left Hand
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = 1 and Tab, F1,
Middle Finger = 2, F2
Index Finger = 3, 4, 5, F3 (1, 2, 3, 4 When in F2)

Right Hand
Pinky = Useless
Ring Finger = RMB
Middle Finger = Middle Mouse Button
Index Finger = LMB, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, (5, 6 When in F2)
Thumb = Useless

Hehehe, A LOT of my key strokes are already muscle memory. So, nyaaa XD

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I'm left handed and my right hand is retarded at functioning with mmos, so left hand = on hotkeys, right hand on mouse. :P


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i just wanted to add. i hate the skilless button smashers. nothing is worse when watching a pvp video than looking into their skill bar to see its just some kid smashing his face on his keyboard in whatever way he feels like. If you cant figure out the game enough to time your skills right so you dont have to button smash to use skills...you need to get a little smarter.


ven ur mean...and i bet u dun kno who i am


:shock: :shock: :shock: yes i know who you are makay, and i wasnt calling you a button smasher!!! you actually showed order...its just i was too stupid to edit my post so i made a new one :P

please please please tell me your not a button smasher or id have to kill you :twisted:

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Cool, lots of interesting ideas.

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i just wanted to add. i hate the skilless button smashers. nothing is worse when watching a pvp video than looking into their skill bar to see its just some kid smashing his face on his keyboard in whatever way he feels like. If you cant figure out the game enough to time your skills right so you dont have to button smash to use skills...you need to get a little smarter.

Are you referring to how the border around the skill slots flashes on and off all across the skill bar... like someone is just tapping their fingers back and forth on the number keys? I've always wondered about that.

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Index Finger = LMB, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, (5, 6 When in F2)

So, you occasionally take your right hand off the mouse and use it on the keys?

And thanks, Key-J, for that nicely formatted explanation. 8)


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Right Hand
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Index Finger = LMB, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, (5, 6 When in F2)

So, you occasionally take your right hand off the mouse and use it on the keys?

And thanks, Key-J, for that nicely formatted explanation. 8)


Ur welcome, XD

Well, yeah. I take my fingers off my mouse. I dono, i just find it much easier to work my "right side" of the keys with my right hand, even if it's far from my resting position.

For example, when im in cleric mode. I hardly have my right hand on my mouse.

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I use F4 for pots, pills, party etc
F1 for skills
F2 alternate skills (For 2nd char that uses bow and S/S)
F3 buffs
But now put buffs in S1 and S2 so F3 is empty


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F1(1-9nos.)Grind skills And Pots ,Pots for Pet..
F2(1-9nos.)Buffs Including Pills and Stall,also exchange ^_^
F3(1-9nos.)extra skills ^^

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G16-fire imbue (z) + flame wave burning (1)
G17-fire imbue (z) + horses thunderbolt (2)
G14-fire imbue (z) + flave wave wide(6)
G11-fire imbue (z) + knock down book 2 and 3 (8 than 7)
G12-fire imbue (z)+ stab book 2 than 3 (9 than 0)
G15-f2 + phantom walk 2nd book (0) + f1
G18-fire imbue (z) + lion shout book 4 than book 3 than book 2 (5 than 4 than 3)

F2-buffs

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Left Hand:

Thumb: Space Bar
Index Finger: 4
Middle Finger: 2
Ring Finger: 1
Pinky: Caps Lock

Right Hand:

On the mouse, index finger hits 3rd mouse button.

Custom Key Configurations:

R = Autograb
C = Sit
Attack Skils = F2
Buffs = F1
Freezes = F3
Petal/Sword Dances = F4
Iron Walls = Minibar

During every combat scenario, the buttons I press in order are:
() indicate stabs, 1 is imbue(used throughout fight)
4, 1, 3, 5, (6,7) 3, 2 (6,7) [/b]

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how the fck do u use that M key next to the one :banghead:
and i usually have my fingers like this
right hand @ mouse
Left Index finger @ 3 (Imbue)
Middle @2 (first books smash skill blader, its a good skill >:D)
Ring Finger @1(that skill with the flying blade XD)
pinky @ ` (i know thats stupid ><)
what i do is
1,3,4(KD) the button smash 2 or 5(stab) or 6(chain),
If it gets KD i stab
if it doesnt, i use chain, or smash
then repeat the process XD

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well lets see...

X/middle mouse button= imbue
1= party
2= sit/stand up
3=ghost spear
4= jade breaking spear
5=Soul spear
6= tiger chain
7= lightning nuke
8= imbue
9=poison heal
10=heal other people which i use on myself ^o^

i keep my fingers on the 8,6,5 keys, i only use my nuke when more then one enemies ar near.

8= pointing finger
6= middle finger
5= ring finger
E= pinky (it simply lands there)
space=thumb (it simply lands there)

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auto attack on middle mouse with keyboard shortcut O
grab on g, view items on k, 0 is imbue 9,8,7,6,5,4 are attacks, 1 is speed buff 2 is phantom walk 3 is phys att buff

index finger on O, pinky on G, middle finger on 8, thumb on windows key, everything reaches everywhere

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I rather finger my mouse. More enjoyable.

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So, nyaaa XD


You rang?

Anyways, my right hand is always on my mouse, cept when I'm typing. My left hand, ring finger is always on 1, middle on 2, index on 3. When I pvp or grind they'll jump as they please over the 1~6 range and the F1~F4 range. Anything after 6 or 7 I do with the mouse.

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Dakuan wrote:
Cool, lots of interesting ideas.

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i just wanted to add. i hate the skilless button smashers. nothing is worse when watching a pvp video than looking into their skill bar to see its just some kid smashing his face on his keyboard in whatever way he feels like. If you cant figure out the game enough to time your skills right so you dont have to button smash to use skills...you need to get a little smarter.

Are you referring to how the border around the skill slots flashes on and off all across the skill bar... like someone is just tapping their fingers back and forth on the number keys? I've always wondered about that.


precisely. I know some macros will do that, but macros for pvp is like the special olympics, and using one just proves your terrible. So its either a macro, or the person is literally just smashing his number keys.

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how the fck do u use that M key next to the one :banghead:

Go into "Options" and under the "Input" tab there's a space where you can enter a key that will assign it to that M slot... should be labeled "middle mouse" something, I think... sorry not ingame ATM. Then just drag whatever skill you want that key to activate into that slot.

I hope that's what you're asking about. :)

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auto attack on middle mouse with keyboard shortcut O
grab on g, view items on k, 0 is imbue 9,8,7,6,5,4 are attacks, 1 is speed buff 2 is phantom walk 3 is phys att buff

index finger on O, pinky on G, middle finger on 8, thumb on windows key, everything reaches everywhere

Hmmm... that's really unique... but, ya' know... I tried placing my fingers like that and it feels pretty natural. It would require some reconditioning, but it's something to think about. The thumb on windows key... is that just where it falls for no reason, or have you assigned that key to something in the game somehow?

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precisely. I know some macros will do that, but macros for pvp is like the special olympics, and using one just proves your terrible. So its either a macro, or the person is literally just smashing his number keys.

Well, I know that macros cause the skills to flash around stupidly fast. But I have seen some "finger dancing" that's pretty quick. I've tried tapping the embue key really quick as it's nearing the end of cool down, seeing if it would trigger more quickly. But honestly, I don't think it's any faster than just timing it so you press it once after it flashes back on.

As an example... this is the first video that I watched that impressed me with switching bars and fast finger work. I don't know the player and I'm not promoting the build, I just like this a lot as an example of skill bar switching (catchy tune, too 8) ). He's obviously tapping some keys rapidly, but it seems to be done with some control... not random button mashing. I could see where that might be quicker.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=73-WbY4w0p4
In some parts, when weapon switching I think, it appears that keys 1, 4 and 9 are flashing. I don't know how that could be done unless he's taking his hand off the mouse momentarily and using two hands on the keyboard to switch weapons. Or, at least that's what it looks like to me.


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that vid is controled button smashing, he pretty much presses the key until the attack is carried out, even though he doesnt have to. Ive seen vids where like 5-6 skills are being smashed at all times, where the person is obviously not paying attention at all to what he uses next. Ill go look for some now

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Not nearly enough innuendo filled jokes guys, com'on.

left hand on mouse, right hand 1-4 and f1-f4

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1-sse
2-imbue
3-sss
4-windless spear
5-gsm
6-horse`s thunderbolt
7-fly dragon bless
8-blood snake storm

pretty much about it....my pvp bar....
lvling bar is just nukes and lion shouts.....

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Ze_ToKiN wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
i just wanted to add. i hate the skilless button smashers. nothing is worse when watching a pvp video than looking into their skill bar to see its just some kid smashing his face on his keyboard in whatever way he feels like. If you cant figure out the game enough to time your skills right so you dont have to button smash to use skills...you need to get a little smarter.


ven ur mean...and i bet u dun kno who i am


:shock: :shock: :shock: yes i know who you are makay, and i wasnt calling you a button smasher!!! you actually showed order...its just i was too stupid to edit my post so i made a new one :P

please please please tell me your not a button smasher or id have to kill you :twisted:


nope this isnt makay

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Left hand index finger on G16 for grinding

Left hand index finger on G17 / G18 for pvp

Right hand on mouse ... obviously.

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Left hand index finger on G16 for grinding

Left hand index finger on G17 / G18 for pvp

Right hand on mouse ... obviously.


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`=phantom (since i dont like to reach for x & sometimes mouse button dont work that well)
1=imbue
2=4th book smash
3=lightning chain
4=kd skill
5=kd skill
6=stab skill
7=stab skill
8=mt. shield

right hand always on mouse
left hand always on keyboard

pinkie on #1 & `
ring always on #2
middle always on #3
index is the reacher goes from default #4 up to #7 (any higher is 2 much work & i use the mouse)

good finger memory & my fingers will always come back to their default position..making for a fast moves & memory of where every skill is on #s

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I dont finger my keybord...

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I dont finger my keybord...


Come on, confess it; we all do it :roll:
You like it when the keyboard squirts alll over you, eh? :D

Heh, just joking,
I use the default keys, except for auto pick up, which I assigned to "space"...
I put main attack and imbues on 1,2,3 and 4, buffs to 5,6 and 7 and potions & pills to 8, 9 and 0.

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