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Do u think Global Warming is a Huge Issue
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The glaciers all over the world are bigger now then in the past 20, 30, 50 years, is that global warming?

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anybody know that greenland was one green? now its covered in ice so ya global warming is a natural process that has been occuring for millions of years


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poor poor earth. I think global warming is a big problem. Theres no positive aspect to rising temperatures and melting ice caps ( i don't like my hair getting too wet and i can't stand any temp over 75 degrees F). I don't know what can really be done to stop/prevent it because unless some government law comes into action people are always going to be driving SUV's in inner city areas (in the US at least).

I think if we used up all our fossil fuel it'd be a good thing though. Think about it, the human race works best in crisis situations and through those situations our technology evolves not in tiny spurts but in leaps and bounds. Computer, jets, space technology most of it only happened thanks to WWII. Without fossil fuel we'd be forced to turn to another energy source and develop technologies to compensate. Hopefully they won't harm the earth even more but you never know ppl like to dig there own graves for some reason

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I give a rats ass about it, if something happens cause of that, or the north pole melting im already gone :)

But yes its a threat for the future, we need cars on electricity and use less sorts of chemical shit to damage the atmosphere.


people like you are focking up this planet.

dont think only about yourself lol, think bout ur children and the people in the future.

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global warming... hmmm... i dont think it is something to be worried about... the earth goes through warming and cooling phases over hundreds of years, we just happen to be in a warming phase right now. it will eventually turn around and start cooling, probably not while any of us are alive, but it will happen. the earth isnt going to die any time soon. well, i dont think so anyway.


it is a lot more likely that humans will destroy the earth with nukes, and kill ourselves off before we have to worry about dying from the ice caps melting.

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they have tried to control it

A few years ago in Kyoto (not sure what country that is in) they set up this thing that would regulate and Countries CO2 emmissions and if they didnt follow they get in trouble....

A lot of countires signed it.....the United States didnt :D
were the biggest CO2 makers or whatever.....

They also tried this thing Called Carbon Trading where each country is allowed to make so much CO2 emissions and for countrys that didnt use the set amount good sell it to a country like US which uses a lot

neither of those seemed to work at all

then again Global Warming isnt that huge of a issue :D

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kyoto is in Japan

and US got criticized for not doing the Kyoto protocol

anyways the reason why people pollute and damage atmosphere is because they are uninformed and uneducated


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Yes, yes, yes .. I bumped an old topic, only seeing as I don't want to make a new one and the other got locked by Sir.Cin.



ANYWHO....


http://www.physorg.com/news110121579.html

:roll: Sooo, how many people want to apologize to me and others when we said the media was bullshitting ?

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I really hope there arent any ignorant, red neck, George Bush worshipping republicans on this forum.

I live in WA, so im used to having semi intellingent conversations -_-

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Um I think you ppl are missing an important point- The polar Ice caps is where we get most of our water. And the polar icecaps are melting so think about this if all the salty seawater mixed with the melt fresh icewater what do you think will happen? Yes it will be a crisis. Also another effect of Global Warming is the ozone layer is getting smaller and smaller. That's a fact. And what do you think is keeping out all those harmful UV rays that cause all that terrible skin cancer and such? I think we take the world for granted....the way we pollute it and all. I think of the earth as a sick persons that's dying and that we are the germs that are causing it's illness with a very limited amount of antibodies. I think that alot of humans trade in what they want for the future for what they want now.

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And the polar icecaps are melting so think about this if all the salty seawater mixed with the melt fresh icewater what do you think will happen? Yes it will be a crisis.


Until it evaporates and rains.
And, most of our freshwater comes from groundwater and melting glaciers.

It wouldn't be great for people living in costal regions; but, like all major events, humanity will eventually adapt. Global Warming doesn't pose a risk to our planet. In itself, it has the capacity, with time, to iron out carbon in our air. Global Warming is a threat to mankind: if we die the Earth will continue to live on without us.

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And the polar icecaps are melting so think about this if all the salty seawater mixed with the melt fresh icewater what do you think will happen? Yes it will be a crisis.


Until it evaporates and rains.
And, most of our freshwater comes from groundwater and melting glaciers.

It wouldn't be great for people living in costal regions; but, like all major events, humanity will eventually adapt. Global Warming doesn't pose a risk to our planet. In itself, it has the capacity, with time, to iron out carbon in our air. Global Warming is a threat to mankind: if we die the Earth will continue to live on without us.


He speaks the truth....surprisingly

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And the polar icecaps are melting so think about this if all the salty seawater mixed with the melt fresh icewater what do you think will happen? Yes it will be a crisis.


Until it evaporates and rains.
And, most of our freshwater comes from groundwater and melting glaciers.

It wouldn't be great for people living in costal regions; but, like all major events, humanity will eventually adapt. Global Warming doesn't pose a risk to our planet. In itself, it has the capacity, with time, to iron out carbon in our air. Global Warming is a threat to mankind: if we die the Earth will continue to live on without us.


He speaks the truth....surprisingly


Like David Suzuki said: "think globally, act locally". It's not a big deal to turn off the water when you brush your teeth, recycle most of your waste, and decide to buy a fuel efficient car. If we all did that, we could focus our efforts in developing clean industries in the developing world; if we fail to do so, they will pollute at scales which make our impact on the planet thus far seem negligible. Furthermore, it has been proven that for every unit of renewable energy, five times the jobs are created.

With smart leaders, good planning, and a sense of global economics; we may be able to turn environmental problems into economic solutions for the developing world.



-.- ... people need to stop considering me as the forum's resident Nazi. I am politically conservative when it comes to economic issues, I see it in a very neoclassical way. But i'm social when it comes to dealing directly with people, the environment, families and future generations. I am in the faculty of environmental studies, talking about subjects like these is what I do every single day.

Here's a draft for my proposal for my final project. Most of what I just said, I pulled out of it. It deals with what i've been talking about:

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Environmental Problems: One Issue Often Overlooked

Unarguably, we live in a very environmentally aware world. With green ideas becoming ever accepted in mainstream culture, green-crusaders such as Al Gore and David Suzuki are succeeding in embedding the gift of environmental awareness in our minds. However, being the North Americans that we are, we fail to realise that the world does not only consist of citizens that have the luxury to make environmentally friendly decisions. In fact, large parts of the Earth’s population, people with whom we share our planet, are living in economically developing countries. These citizens of humanity are too occupied with catching up to the industrialized world to worry about making environmentally friendly decisions.

In our reality, there exists two very different ways to deal with these problems. The first, being the way in which we are currently attacking environmental issues, is quite simplistic: we emphasize short term solutions with immediate results that only affect our world. Logically, one would assume that it would be best for money to be spent fighting poverty, malnutrition, unsafe drinking water, smoking, air pollution, infectious diseases, water shortages, climate changes, and loss and degradation of biodiversity. These are the problems that affect people in developing countries, the people that account for most of the Earth’s population, and the people that have the potential to pollute on a scale that would make our contribution to environmental problems thus far seem very negligible. We, the industrialised nations, are responsible for 75% of the total pollution and waste that humanity has blessed upon future generations. Halting the investment of valuable funds into programs with trivial goals, such as the planting of trees, and diverting our full attention to the development of eco-friendly industries in the economically emerging world is the only way we can avoid the disaster of the developing world polluting on a scale comparable to ours.

David Suzuki had it right: ''We are in a big car heading at a brick wall at 100 miles an hour.'' In fact, going green is not only good for our health, but doing so in developing countries would create an influx of employment opportunities. It has been calculated that for every unit of renewable energy produced, five times the number of employment positions have been created. Environmental problems, if managed right, may prove to be economic solutions for countries left behind.

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Governments need to keep us 'inline' = Make a story which people would abide by = make Global warming an over hyped issue.

Oh I agree we can change some of the things we do, but it would have no effect on Global Warming. As said before in this thread, the planet goes through warm and cold patches. It's just one of those things that the government will play us for.

Make us buy more expensive products which are 'environment friendly' or by 'solar cars' whatever. Thing is, once a solar powered car or a car that runs of of vegetable oil is ready to be destroyed due to a crash or whatever what happens to the battery that was in it? Yeah that will eventually probably pollute more.

IF and I say IF the 'sun' would heat us up a little more to the point we would have to change our lifestyle .. don't forget theres other planets. And seeing the photo's I have seen of the moon lately on sites like ATS people already inhabit it. So we needn't worry about being 'wiped out'.

Conclusion ... Government's will always seek a way to keep us tame, weather it be by ' Omg 2012 Planet X is coming ' or ' Ahhh global warming will kill the planet ' just simply live your own life, and don't b brainwashed by over powered suits.

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Global warming is only a theory.

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Global warming is only a theory.


prove it...

but yeas its a big issue for the hole world not just one country


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Logik wrote:
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Global warming is only a theory.


prove it...

but yeas its a big issue for the hole world not just one country


only if you prove its not only a theory

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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out

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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out


Early start for you? Can't figure out what you tried to say ;S.

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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out


Early start for you? Can't figure out what you tried to say ;S.

well this isnt really a problem 2 the world wtf is up with ppl saying there going 2 save the world and its a global thing its not its a human race problem and some of the creatures that r alive right now this world doesnt need saving it has been through alot worse and where just a blink 2 them like when ppl b1tch about litter and gas ,all that bs about it hurting the world is bullshit they just want a clean environment for themselves. thsi world will live no matter what we humans do. might be choppy its 5am xP

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right, now simplify that

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MasterKojito wrote:
Global warming is only a theory.


It doesn't matter whether Global Warming is happening or not. As human beings, economically, it would be best for us to start watching our consumption.

And, Global Warming being a theory, is only a theory. You prove that.

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global warming is a natural occurance in earths
cycles.

its a slow process.
that humans will either adapt 2 or not.

remember 98% of species on earth, have been killed off by volcanic activities and possibly a meteor.

the earth kept going without them... they were not missed and niether will we be.

look at mars... and its "possible" history... then ask yourself do all planets of the same properties of mars and earth go thru cycles of massive volcanic activity... and slow weather changes that may be extreme enough 2 change the face of the planet.

nature screwed us just by putting us on E-Arth.
meh idc, i'll b dead b4 that happens [unless i create a longevity vaccine]

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global warming is a natural occurance in earths
cycles.

its a slow process.
that humans will either adapt 2 or not.

remember 98% of species on earth, have been killed off by volcanic activities and possibly a meteor.

the earth kept going without them... they were not missed and niether will we be.

look at mars... and its "possible" history... then ask yourself do all planets of the same properties of mars and earth go thru cycles of massive volcanic activity... and slow weather changes that may be extreme enough 2 change the face of the planet.

nature screwed us just by putting us on E-Arth.
meh idc, i'll b dead b4 that happens [unless i create a longevity vaccine]


That's true. But you still have a certain responsibility to nature, to assure yourself that it's able to renew it's resources at the same scale that you're taking them out.

FACT: Pollution is a strain on health. It's horrible for asthmatics, the elderly, and children. It shouldn't matter if the effect is natural or not, our environmental choices are contributing to the reduction in quality of our air. You should be doing the simplest of things for your friends, family, and children.

Our planet has environmental problems, Global Warming is only one of them.

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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out


Early start for you? Can't figure out what you tried to say ;S.

well this isnt really a problem 2 the world wtf is up with ppl saying there going 2 save the world and its a global thing its not its a human race problem and some of the creatures that r alive right now this world doesnt need saving it has been through alot worse and where just a blink 2 them like when ppl b1tch about litter and gas ,all that bs about it hurting the world is bullshit they just want a clean environment for themselves. thsi world will live no matter what we humans do. might be choppy its 5am xP


ungrateful.....sometimes i swear humans are so selfish

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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out


Early start for you? Can't figure out what you tried to say ;S.

well this isnt really a problem 2 the world wtf is up with ppl saying there going 2 save the world and its a global thing its not its a human race problem and some of the creatures that r alive right now this world doesnt need saving it has been through alot worse and where just a blink 2 them like when ppl b1tch about litter and gas ,all that bs about it hurting the world is bullshit they just want a clean environment for themselves. thsi world will live no matter what we humans do. might be choppy its 5am xP


ungrateful.....sometimes i swear humans are so selfish

how is this in any way selfish its opening ur eyes 2 c that where not the most important thing in this universe where going 2 die in the next 100yrs and we can thank ourselves for that
none the less iam happy about maybe the universe next superior life will
achive utopia

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Global warming is overrated.

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global warming... hmmm... i dont think it is something to be worried about... the earth goes through warming and cooling phases over hundreds of years, we just happen to be in a warming phase right now. it will eventually turn around and start cooling, probably not while any of us are alive, but it will happen. the earth isnt going to die any time soon. well, i dont think so anyway.


it is a lot more likely that humans will destroy the earth with nukes, and kill ourselves off before we have to worry about dying from the ice caps melting.



The Earth doesn't die till like another 6-12 billion years when the sun turns into a supernova and incinerates it.

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Silver0 wrote:
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its not global is human only living things need 2 worry about this the globe doesnt care it lived through tougher things it will re create a new atmosphere and just the pest we have became will be whipped out


Early start for you? Can't figure out what you tried to say ;S.

well this isnt really a problem 2 the world wtf is up with ppl saying there going 2 save the world and its a global thing its not its a human race problem and some of the creatures that r alive right now this world doesnt need saving it has been through alot worse and where just a blink 2 them like when ppl b1tch about litter and gas ,all that bs about it hurting the world is bullshit they just want a clean environment for themselves. thsi world will live no matter what we humans do. might be choppy its 5am xP


ungrateful.....sometimes i swear humans are so selfish

how is this in any way selfish its opening ur eyes 2 c that where not the most important thing in this universe where going 2 die in the next 100yrs and we can thank ourselves for that
none the less iam happy about maybe the universe next superior life will
achive utopia


I'm talking about the way you all use Earth as a trash can

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I'm talking about the way you all use Earth as a trash can


Sorry but that is the most groundless, contradicting comment I have ever heard on SRF.

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