HP Recovery 25% increase

glavie · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1195 **Location:**

Vindicator wrote:

thats the problem, a lot of people want to know, but no one can provide proof which is why i made this topic, sadly, people continue to speculate. I really wish i could of done it myself.

What does OP mean?

Part of the problem is the word proof, you and others keep throwing it around. It makes people defensive, and angry that you don't trust them.
The only way to prove it would to be too video record the entire testing process. Most people (like me) don't have that software. Screen shots don't show time passing so that will tell you very little.

The best you can hope for is for someone to do a thorough test and explain there test procedure. If it makes sense than you have to trust them. I made a suggestion above on things to test for. Those were not speculations. And if anyone can think of other things the stat my accomplish they should be listed and tested for as well.

Hopefully _SomeOne_ will pull though for us and give us the info we seek.

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

glavie wrote:

Vindicator wrote:

thats the problem, a lot of people want to know, but no one can provide proof which is why i made this topic, sadly, people continue to speculate. I really wish i could of done it myself.

What does OP mean?

Part of the problem is the word proof, you and others keep throwing it around. It makes people defensive, and angry that you don't trust them.
The only way to prove it would to be too video record the entire testing process. Most people (like me) don't have that software. Screen shots don't show time passing so that will tell you very little.

The best you can hope for is for someone to do a thorough test and explain there test procedure. If it makes sense than you have to trust them. I made a suggestion above on things to test for. Those were not speculations. And if anyone can think of other things the stat my accomplish they should be listed and tested for as well.

Hopefully _SomeOne_ will pull though for us and give us the info we seek.

OP means overpowered.

And screenshot willbe more than adequate. We only need to see the starting hp and the final hp AFTER ONE HEALING PROCESS WHICH IS:
-one hp potion use
-one healing cycle after sitting down
-one healing cycle while standing
-possibly one healing skills such as force / cleric.

If someone fakes a screenshot, then they are extremely retarded to take their time to do the expirament, and then not even find conclusive results. It can only help everyone...

gongjaied · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 89 **Location:**

If someone knows what it actually does and people expect you to go through the troubles to show them while you don't get anything out of it.......just keep the knowledge to yourself =)
And let the ignorant wonder some more ...

Cheers guys!

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

Let me make a statement. Please read it, it has a sense :roll:

U can chose between str1, int1, hp 150, damage 5%, att rating 5%, ignore monster def 1% chance, and hp recovery 25% increase.

~ I am lvl70, pure str, I got 350 str (296 base, 54 on equip). Do you really think str 1 increase will make me any better? And think of what str will I have on lvl80 lol. Same goes for int chars. The point: str/int 1 increase doesnt mean a shit.
~ Same goes for hp 150 increase. At lvl80, pure str will have more than 20k hp. Id say same thing for pure ints. Is 150 hp worth a shit?
~ Str, int and hp are eliminated. Damage, and att rating must be chosen. As for the 1% chance of ignoring monster's defence... Woah. U gotta have it. Why? I got a sun blade, and when I zerk and do the KD on a shaman, I do approx. 14k crit. But, when that 1% chance occurs, I do 12k dmg to a shaman without zerk, without crit. Enough said. It's like a new parameter simmilar to crit. And I gotta tell u, 1% isnt that bad at all.
~ The last - hp recovery bullshit. Well why do I even need to know what the hell does it do? I eliminated 1 str, 1 int and 150 hp, cuz it aint worth shit. I'll just take the rest.

Comment pls.

PileOfMush · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 456 **Location:**

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If someone knows what it actually does and people expect you to go through the troubles to show them while you don't get anything out of it.......just keep the knowledge to yourself =)

Or better yet... share the knowledge with everyone, which is why this forum exists to begin with.

I can see the point in this topic. Either this 25% recovery increase is useless or extremely useful, but it sounds like the former, so nobody is getting it on their wings. I'm planning on buying the Devil Wings and I definitely want to know which stats are best before then.

I hope someone can do some experimentation and provide some numbers if not screenshots.

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

PileOfMush wrote:

Quote:

If someone knows what it actually does and people expect you to go through the troubles to show them while you don't get anything out of it.......just keep the knowledge to yourself =)

Or better yet... share the knowledge with everyone, which is why this forum exists to begin with.

I can see the point in this topic. Either this 25% recovery increase is useless or extremely useful, but it sounds like the former, so nobody is getting it on their wings. I'm planning on buying the Devil Wings and I definitely want to know which stats are best before then.

I hope someone can do some experimentation and provide some numbers if not screenshots.

ive seen tons of people with it on, and sayig they got it....

either they realise they messed up their wings and dont want to admit it, or are too lazy to find out what exactly their wings do for them. God i wish i had 130 more sillk

Quote:

Let me make a statement. Please read it, it has a sense Rolling Eyes

U can chose between str1, int1, hp 150, damage 5%, att rating 5%, ignore monster def 1% chance, and hp recovery 25% increase.

~ I am lvl70, pure str, I got 350 str (296 base, 54 on equip). Do you really think str 1 increase will make me any better? And think of what str will I have on lvl80 lol. Same goes for int chars. The point: str/int 1 increase doesnt mean a shit.
~ Same goes for hp 150 increase. At lvl80, pure str will have more than 20k hp. Id say same thing for pure ints. Is 150 hp worth a shit?
~ Str, int and hp are eliminated. Damage, and att rating must be chosen. As for the 1% chance of ignoring monster's defence... Woah. U gotta have it. Why? I got a sun blade, and when I zerk and do the KD on a shaman, I do approx. 14k crit. But, when that 1% chance occurs, I do 12k dmg to a shaman without zerk, without crit. Enough said. It's like a new parameter simmilar to crit. And I gotta tell u, 1% isnt that bad at all.
~ The last - hp recovery bullshit. Well why do I even need to know what the hell does it do? I eliminated 1 str, 1 int and 150 hp, cuz it aint worth shit. I'll just take the rest.

Comment pls.

wrong...lets say that the 25% hp regeneration only works while your sitting....its totally useless. Are you saying you would rather have 3 stats on your wings instead of 4? 1str, 1int, or 150hp is way better than nothing at all. int will give u more mag dmg, mag def and mp, str will give you phy damage, hpy def and hp, 150hp is 150hp, still usefull, and considering the alternative (in this case faster recovery while sitting) its easily the better choice.

Thats why people want to know, its the choice that decides between 3 stats and one totally useless stat, or 4 stats that will help you.

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

But... but... str/int 1 increase looks so humiliating

lolz I even avoid str 3 things :banghead:

Anyways I think the 25% recovery is not useless. I would say it works even when u are moving. If not, it might be later on.

Cerus · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 1002 **Location:**

I got my wings, heres what i think.

5% Accuracy, Percentage Increase, the higher level, the more increase u get.
5% Damage, Percentage Increase, the higher lvl you get the more u get.
1% Monster Defense Ignore

Those are the must, the rest really wont make much difference.

25% better recovery, wont help much doesn't matter how it works.
For me at least that is.

NOOB_THIEF · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 99 **Location:** USA

Here what i think the 25% better HP recovery works. Suppose your auto pot saved at 50% mean when your HP down to 50% it will auto refill your HP to whatever bar, say to 70% of your HP. Depends how big your pot is and it takes 5 second to get to 70%, so with the 25% better HP recovery it will take like 3.75 second to fill up. That is my theory, I will test it out when i'm back from school and let you all know

. Sorry for bad English.

PS: I really dont know how fast the auto repot goes. I'm just guessing it only

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

Regeneration rate isnt only when you are sitting. It increases when you are sitting, but you still have a Hp and Mp regeneration while standing, just much much slower.

Carnophage · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 410 **Location:**

Sylhana wrote:

Regeneration rate isnt only when you are sitting. It increases when you are sitting, but you still have a Hp and Mp regeneration while standing, just much much slower.

Yeah to bad 1.25 x allmost nothing = still allmost nothing

Sylhana · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3467 **Location:**

Carnophage wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

Regeneration rate isnt only when you are sitting. It increases when you are sitting, but you still have a Hp and Mp regeneration while standing, just much much slower.

Yeah to bad 1.25 x allmost nothing = still allmost nothing

Arrr that be true

Valamathras · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 115 **Location:**

point is each bonus is minimal therefore the 25% recovery could not affect pots as it would be very overpowering. shame 1% ignore defense only affects monsters

Vindicator · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 1734 **Location:** L-A-B

Crni_Vatreni wrote:

But... but... str/int 1 increase looks so humiliating

lolz I even avoid str 3 things :banghead:

Anyways I think the 25% recovery is not useless. I would say it works even when u are moving. If not, it might be later on.

when you move, you have NO regeneration, only while standing still or sitting. And why dies 1str/int look humiliating? GDF is only 2...job items are only 1...

Crni_Vatreni · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 468 **Location:**

Not really humiliating, I said "lolz". Sill, the 4th thing is irrelevant, compared with the three things mentioned by Cerus.

jabbers · **Posted:** Mon Sep 24, 2007 9:06 am

does the 25% affect the amount you get or is it the speed of regeneration?

soxdrop · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:18 pm

could anybody actually anwser this finally ?:o thanks

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

Anyone notice this skill's description in the cleric tree?

The thread is irrlivent I used it only for the screenshot he has.

Notice the 20% hp recovery increase? Its the same wording as the wings stat, could it be the same?

http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=61989

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

JM bad translation again.
Tested with pots, tested with heal skills. Only difference in sitting.

glavie · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1195 **Location:**

sama98b wrote:

JM bad translation again.
Tested with pots, tested with heal skills. Only difference in sitting.

Could you explain how you tested it? You tested the wings, and cleric skill?

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

wiz/cleric
nude / nude+wings
jangan hp recovery (the smallest one)
using life control to lose 50% hp then cancel skill

Counting time how fast hp recovers to full
by pot
by standing
by sitting

Only difference I saw is 1-2s difference in sitting.

Can't test heal skills since so litle hp that even low level skill refills it.
Need a lv80 str to fully test it.

But if you think about it to raise the hp recovery by 25% for pot and heal skill
that would totally overpower the wing users.
Would say an 5% would be good number if it would work all the time.
But 25% faster have to be made useless somewhat.

They just took the idea of the 30s pot delay, when characters had to sit down a few times to recover.

poehalcho · **Posted:** Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:08 pm

tedtwilliger wrote:

shoto wrote:

um...its actually been asked before

25% increased recovery only takes affect when you are sitting

And someone is going to pay 130 silk for that?

I don't believe that for a second. It would be so stupid to make that do that. Out of all the people on the forum who here sits down to recover hp? no one. So adding a 25% increase isn't really going to affect people too much.

Unless you can provide me the proof, i just cant believe that. But if it is true :shock:

i do...pretty often actually

glavie · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1195 **Location:**

Sama98B

So the overall time was about 5 seconds when sitting no pots used,(no wings). Then it was shortened by about 1 sec with wings?

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

Basically: yes
Only positive I see in that option when pvp-ing in cape without pots

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