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ok, im against imp3r10 aswell... but if he gets ban then all the people that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell, admins aswell !
that doesn't make sense.

this is a forum, not a joymax policy. there is no "all 3rd party programs are illegal = instant ban" on srf. the admin can make w/e kind of rule he wants, and he has.

pk2 doesn't hurt nebody.


oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...


And plus this ISNT the game this is a forum to talk about the game... Botters should be banned from the game not the forums.

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...


And plus this ISNT the game this is a forum to talk about the game... Botters should be banned from the game not the forums.



nothing in ToS about botting anymore

sorry but its true

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if imp3r10 gets banned then ppl that use pk2 edits should get banned... this means the admins that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell...
there is only 2 thing u can do,
banned imp3r10 and ppl that used pk2 edits
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change the rules and unban every one that has used a bot or posted about them.
im not on any ones side
im just going by the rules

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...
Its called an analogy. Its also called sarcasm.

Not real life? So you die or something when you start playing SRO? Some type of astral projection? Playing SRO is a part of your "real life."

My point still stands.

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ok, im against imp3r10 aswell... but if he gets ban then all the people that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell, admins aswell !
that doesn't make sense.

this is a forum, not a joymax policy. there is no "all 3rd party programs are illegal = instant ban" on srf. the admin can make w/e kind of rule he wants, and he has.

pk2 doesn't hurt nebody.


oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually


Can't you quit trying to act like you're innocent? Pk2 editing can vary, but the general thought of it on SRF has nothing to do with legitimate playing or not. It doesn't matter if your botting has hurt anyone or not, it's against the rules. Grow up and learn to accept the consequences of your actions.

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...


And plus this ISNT the game this is a forum to talk about the game... Botters should be banned from the game not the forums.


The SRO ToS??? god they are just getting better arnt they.....


nothing in ToS about botting anymore

sorry but its true

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oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually
no, i can't. however, bots do crowd up the server and cause grief for non prem users.

the forum rules are very clear on botting though. you seem like a nice guy, and it'll be sad to see you go.

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just let it people, u are all getting no where

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just let it people, u are all getting no where


we're having fun before he gets banned :wink:

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...
Its called an analogy. Its also called sarcasm.

Not real life? So you die or something when you start playing SRO? Some type of astral projection? Playing SRO is a part of your "real life."

My point still stands.


accept and have are two different things

srf doesnt want botters but they know that alot of people here at these forums do bot

all im saying is that put this in the past and edit the rules so that it distinguish between "3rd party programs" so they dont incriminated themselves as hypocrites

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oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually
no, i can't. however, bots do crowd up the server and cause grief for non prem users.

the forum rules are very clear on botting though. you seem like a nice guy, and it'll be sad to see you go.

rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..

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oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually
no, i can't. however, bots do crowd up the server and cause grief for non prem users.

the forum rules are very clear on botting though. you seem like a nice guy, and it'll be sad to see you go.

rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..


Pk2 editing is not a 3rd party program.

Seriously, try to make sense people.

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just let it people, u are all getting no where


we're having fun before he gets banned :wink:


that is totally unacceptable, why make fun of him, he bots - so wat.

get over it, its just a dam game were people can have fun, if hes happy; thats all it matters.

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ok, im against imp3r10 aswell... but if he gets ban then all the people that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell, admins aswell !
that doesn't make sense.

this is a forum, not a joymax policy. there is no "all 3rd party programs are illegal = instant ban" on srf. the admin can make w/e kind of rule he wants, and he has.

pk2 doesn't hurt nebody.


oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually


Can't you quit trying to act like you're innocent? Pk2 editing can vary, but the general thought of it on SRF has nothing to do with legitimate playing or not. It doesn't matter if your botting has hurt anyone or not, it's against the rules. Grow up and learn to accept the consequences of your actions.


i never said i was innocent im just pointing out the facts, and im having fun too going against all you guys, too bad this wont be judged in the way a real debate should be cuz then id probably win

and the part about botting hurting anyone was a direct response to what people have said

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just let it people, u are all getting no where


we're having fun before he gets banned :wink:


that is totally unacceptable, why make fun of him, he bots - so wat.

get over it, its just a dam game were people can have fun, if hes happy; thats all it matters.


At the expense of others.
It's against the rules for a reason, suck it up and move on.

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i bet a admin is gonna come along and ban imp3r10 and lock the topic,
but there is more to this topic...

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rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..
where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal?

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Flaming a botter or banning them from the forums aint gonna stop them so why not just accept them.
Why fight crime? Its not going to stop them. You can punish them but people will still commit crimes. Lets just accept it.

SRF accepting botters? Not going to happen. Botters and bot supporters will be banned.


This is a game buddy Not real life...
Its called an analogy. Its also called sarcasm.

Not real life? So you die or something when you start playing SRO? Some type of astral projection? Playing SRO is a part of your "real life."

My point still stands.


The people you talk to and friends are part of real life, the game is virtual.... the games ToS and rules is part of the game, SRF is real life so it shouldnt matter if you bot or not.

Ban him or not some of you guys need to realise how far you are taking this.

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oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually
no, i can't. however, bots do crowd up the server and cause grief for non prem users.

the forum rules are very clear on botting though. you seem like a nice guy, and it'll be sad to see you go.

rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..


Pk2 editing is not a 3rd party program.

Seriously, try to make sense people.


yes it is because it is not the original file that joymax put with the game, and you use 3rd party programs to edit the files

it can be related to botting, the bot program is the pk2 hex editor and it just keeps editing the files non stop and faster

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ok, im against imp3r10 aswell... but if he gets ban then all the people that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell, admins aswell !
that doesn't make sense.

this is a forum, not a joymax policy. there is no "all 3rd party programs are illegal = instant ban" on srf. the admin can make w/e kind of rule he wants, and he has.

pk2 doesn't hurt nebody.


oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually


Can't you quit trying to act like you're innocent? Pk2 editing can vary, but the general thought of it on SRF has nothing to do with legitimate playing or not. It doesn't matter if your botting has hurt anyone or not, it's against the rules. Grow up and learn to accept the consequences of your actions.


i never said i was innocent im just pointing out the facts, and im having fun too going against all you guys, too bad this wont be judged in the way a real debate should be cuz then id probably win

and the part about botting hurting anyone was a direct response to what people have said


You have no argument.. You can't be banned for Pk2 editing. It's not a 3rd party program, and has nothing to do with botting (At least on this forum). Joymax never even stated Pk2 editing was illegal.

EDIT: Uhg, I can't agrue with you when you have no idea what you're talking about. Pk2 editing in no way is using a 3rd party program. No where in the SRF rules does it say Pk2 editing is illegal. No where in the Joymax TOS does it say Pk2 editing is illegal. Stick to shit you know.

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rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..
where in the srf rules does it say pk2 edits are illegal?


it doesnt have to say it directly, thats the power of vagueness. pk2 edits are a 3rd party files

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accept and have are two different things

srf doesnt want botters but they know that alot of people here at these forums do bot

all im saying is that put this in the past and edit the rules so that it distinguish between "3rd party programs" so they dont incriminated themselves as hypocrites
Pk2 editing is something that only effects the person that applied the edit. It does not provide an unfair advantage against other players. Also, JM hasn't say anything officially on the front page of the main site about pk2 editing. I still see bot ban list, though.

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1) Be a bot supporter. Change your avatar to the pointy-finger bot symbol. Put "0x33" somewhere in your sig. Talk openly about, admit to, or suggest botting in a thread. Ask about how to buy, offer to sell, or post links to bot clients, etc. DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS WILL RESULT IN AN INSTANT BAN. There will be no warnings. There will be no discussion. There is ZERO tolerance.


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ok, im against imp3r10 aswell... but if he gets ban then all the people that used pk2 edits should get banned aswell, admins aswell !
that doesn't make sense.

this is a forum, not a joymax policy. there is no "all 3rd party programs are illegal = instant ban" on srf. the admin can make w/e kind of rule he wants, and he has.

pk2 doesn't hurt nebody.


oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually


Can't you quit trying to act like you're innocent? Pk2 editing can vary, but the general thought of it on SRF has nothing to do with legitimate playing or not. It doesn't matter if your botting has hurt anyone or not, it's against the rules. Grow up and learn to accept the consequences of your actions.


i never said i was innocent im just pointing out the facts, and im having fun too going against all you guys, too bad this wont be judged in the way a real debate should be cuz then id probably win

and the part about botting hurting anyone was a direct response to what people have said


You have no argument.. You can't be banned for Pk2 editing. It's not a 3rd party program, and has nothing to do with botting (At least on this forum). Joymax never even stated Pk2 editing was illegal.


you've got to be incompitent with legal rules and such

pk2 editing is viloating copyright rules of joymax. it is their files and you are changing them, which is copyright infringement

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oh but can you prove that

and can anyone on here prove that my so called botting has hurt them individually
no, i can't. however, bots do crowd up the server and cause grief for non prem users.

the forum rules are very clear on botting though. you seem like a nice guy, and it'll be sad to see you go.

rules are rules pk2 edits = 3rd party program..


Pk2 editing is not a 3rd party program.

Seriously, try to make sense people.

explain please.
no point saying its not a 3rd party program if u cant explain it.
if u edit the game, does it mean u are using a program that sro does not allow..u are modifying the client..

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accept and have are two different things

srf doesnt want botters but they know that alot of people here at these forums do bot

all im saying is that put this in the past and edit the rules so that it distinguish between "3rd party programs" so they dont incriminated themselves as hypocrites
Pk2 editing is something that only effects the person that applied the edit. It does not provide an unfair advantage against other players. Also, JM hasn't say anything officially on the front page of the main site about pk2 editing. I still see bot ban list, though.


Yes you do see bot bans, but look wats on there gold bots not player bots, JM doesnt care about bots and your words arnt going to change that so why make a big fuss about it

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accept and have are two different things

srf doesnt want botters but they know that alot of people here at these forums do bot

all im saying is that put this in the past and edit the rules so that it distinguish between "3rd party programs" so they dont incriminated themselves as hypocrites
Pk2 editing is something that only effects the person that applied the edit. It does not provide an unfair advantage against other players. Also, JM hasn't say anything officially on the front page of the main site about pk2 editing. I still see bot ban list, though.


how many times do i ahve to say it

pk2 editing is a copyright infringement. joymax has copyrighted everything in this game, thats why u cant sell characters or accounts or gold,

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omfg, we already know joymax sees pk2 editting as illegal. that's not the issue here.

on here, the silkroadforums, pk2 editting, both support for and admitting to are NOT against the forum rules.

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accept and have are two different things

srf doesnt want botters but they know that alot of people here at these forums do bot

all im saying is that put this in the past and edit the rules so that it distinguish between "3rd party programs" so they dont incriminated themselves as hypocrites
Pk2 editing is something that only effects the person that applied the edit. It does not provide an unfair advantage against other players. Also, JM hasn't say anything officially on the front page of the main site about pk2 editing. I still see bot ban list, though.

u are modifying the client.. sro has once said users that are using modifed clients should redownload the client, or they might be banned from game
some think like that

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