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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:43 pm 
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I idd find it a waste of my pots when I gotta fight a int with snowshield on...its just a 2min fight untill it ends. (ints can kill me during that time...some of them) but I just find it a waste =/ Already paying enough for those pots lol

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:01 pm 
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anyone notice its always the glaivers that whine about snow shield? :P
im hybrid str force i can pull off 35% with xlarge mp, why am i not allowed to use it =[

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Anyone who complains about int's with ice shield are retards tbh. Even with 50% ice shield, its not hard to kill them. Glaviers just whine because they can't just SSE>SSS>Mars to kill anymore.

Besides, whats worse is glaviers or blader with 40% ice shield. -.- So yeah, go complain about them instead of complaining about nukers with 40%.

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Anyone who complains about int's with ice shield are retards tbh. Even with 50% ice shield, its not hard to kill them. Glaviers just whine because they can't just SSE>SSS>Mars to kill anymore.

Besides, whats worse is glaviers or blader with 40% ice shield. -.- So yeah, go complain about them instead of complaining about nukers with 40%.

Lets see here. If there was not snow shield and str's had a buff that made them better. All int's would cry. Lets say "Fire Labyrinth Shield" or whatever dumb name they would give it. Lets also say it doubled Phy damage. Who would complain that its unfair now? I think everybody with 10k-ish hp would quit from being a 1 hit ko.

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/dreams of the pre-snow shield days

I got a hybrid int spear myself, and i choose to not use my 40% snow shield when pvping a glaiver, because if i do, the glaiver does the same and it's just a waste of pots for 2 minutes long.

Still annoying when you're fighting a pure int and hes throwing on snow shield, then i will too, potfight for 2 minutes zzzzzz :roll:


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The way I see it is. If you are allowed to get the skill and you are using it without outside help, then it is fair. So If an INT uses snow, very well, he/she farmed for that skill. But same goes for Str, even if you don't like it. If that Str character farmed for snow, then it's okay. Only skill you can't use is skills that aren't yours. At least in PvP. Jobbing and Guild wars, it's a whole different story.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:46 pm 
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/dreams of the pre-snow shield days

I got a hybrid int spear myself, and i choose to not use my 40% snow shield when pvping a glaiver, because if i do, the glaiver does the same and it's just a waste of pots for 2 minutes long.

Still annoying when you're fighting a pure int and hes throwing on snow shield, then i will too, potfight for 2 minutes zzzzzz :roll:

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MiKe 51-50 wrote:
AkillerNXC wrote:
Anyone who complains about int's with ice shield are retards tbh. Even with 50% ice shield, its not hard to kill them. Glaviers just whine because they can't just SSE>SSS>Mars to kill anymore.

Besides, whats worse is glaviers or blader with 40% ice shield. -.- So yeah, go complain about them instead of complaining about nukers with 40%.

Lets see here. If there was not snow shield and str's had a buff that made them better. All int's would cry. Lets say "Fire Labyrinth Shield" or whatever dumb name they would give it. Lets also say it doubled Phy damage. Who would complain that its unfair now? I think everybody with 10k-ish hp would quit from being a 1 hit ko.


It doesn't work like that, Ints are meant to do dmg, str are mean t to tank.

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AkillerNXC wrote:
MiKe 51-50 wrote:
AkillerNXC wrote:
Anyone who complains about int's with ice shield are retards tbh. Even with 50% ice shield, its not hard to kill them. Glaviers just whine because they can't just SSE>SSS>Mars to kill anymore.

Besides, whats worse is glaviers or blader with 40% ice shield. -.- So yeah, go complain about them instead of complaining about nukers with 40%.

Lets see here. If there was not snow shield and str's had a buff that made them better. All int's would cry. Lets say "Fire Labyrinth Shield" or whatever dumb name they would give it. Lets also say it doubled Phy damage. Who would complain that its unfair now? I think everybody with 10k-ish hp would quit from being a 1 hit ko.


It doesn't work like that, Ints are meant to do dmg, str are mean t to tank.

Then why add a skill that makes them tank better then str's? That would mean the attack I just made up would equal snow shield for str's.

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MiKe 51-50 wrote:
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/dreams of the pre-snow shield days

I got a hybrid int spear myself, and i choose to not use my 40% snow shield when pvping a glaiver, because if i do, the glaiver does the same and it's just a waste of pots for 2 minutes long.

Still annoying when you're fighting a pure int and hes throwing on snow shield, then i will too, potfight for 2 minutes zzzzzz :roll:

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Hellraider wrote:
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/dreams of the pre-snow shield days

I got a hybrid int spear myself, and i choose to not use my 40% snow shield when pvping a glaiver, because if i do, the glaiver does the same and it's just a waste of pots for 2 minutes long.

Still annoying when you're fighting a pure int and hes throwing on snow shield, then i will too, potfight for 2 minutes zzzzzz :roll:

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omg lol, yeah thats me :D
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 Post subject: Re: int + show shield = crying str.
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Someone is forgetting, when they lose, let it be str or int or whatnot, they'll start going: CHINK, LOL IDK IF YOU'RE CHINESE BUT I WILL USE THIS OVERLY ABUSED WORD TO LOOK COOLZ. CHINK CHINK CHINK. It pisses me off cause they think being a bully if they don't get what they want is just pure Paris Hilton.

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its annoying i know.. well its a skill.. they can use ice shield to if they want..


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anyone notice its always the glaivers that whine about snow shield? :P
im hybrid str force i can pull off 35% with xlarge mp, why am i not allowed to use it =[


Yeah, that`s true -.-
But I dont get it... What`s the problem? A couple of days ago I pvp`ed pure int s/s with cold maxed out with +7 s/s. And I killed him 3 out of 3.

Guys, just stop crying, use more stun`s ( That`s for the glavier`s xD )

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:30 pm 
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so i was figthing this rogue once and i used snow shiled and the sword skill that adds a bunch of def. then she called me a nub cuz i used it. then i said i wont use it if u dont use ur stealth
she didnt say anything and she still died and called me a sos nub


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anyone notice its always the glaivers that whine about snow shield? :P
im hybrid str force i can pull off 35% with xlarge mp, why am i not allowed to use it =[


Yeah, that`s true -.-
But I dont get it... What`s the problem? A couple of days ago I pvp`ed pure int s/s with cold maxed out with +7 s/s. And I killed him 3 out of 3.

Guys, just stop crying, use more stun`s ( That`s for the glavier`s xD )


@Fudge: Who says you aint allowed to use it...you can use it whenever you want to >.>

And can you command you char to stun your opponent Sinner, if so...I'd like to learn that too _O_

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XMoshe wrote:
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anyone notice its always the glaivers that whine about snow shield? :P
im hybrid str force i can pull off 35% with xlarge mp, why am i not allowed to use it =[


Yeah, that`s true -.-
But I dont get it... What`s the problem? A couple of days ago I pvp`ed pure int s/s with cold maxed out with +7 s/s. And I killed him 3 out of 3.

Guys, just stop crying, use more stun`s ( That`s for the glavier`s xD )




And can you command you char to stun your opponent Sinner, if so...I'd like to learn that too _O_


No, I can`t. But when you use 2 skill`s with stun effect, the % of getting your oponent stunned is much higher. Let`s say I use SSE > SSS and no stun, but then, I use SSE again and most of the time`s the oponent get`s stunned. >.>

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Sinner wrote:
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Yeah, that`s true -.-
But I dont get it... What`s the problem? A couple of days ago I pvp`ed pure int s/s with cold maxed out with +7 s/s. And I killed him 3 out of 3.

Guys, just stop crying, use more stun`s ( That`s for the glavier`s xD )



And can you command you char to stun your opponent Sinner, if so...I'd like to learn that too _O_


No, I can`t. But when you use 2 skill`s with stun effect, the % of getting your oponent stunned is much higher. Let`s say I use SSE > SSS and no stun, but then, I use SSE again and most of the time`s the oponent get`s stunned. >.>


Doesnt matter what attacks you do...its luck based anyway ;) And yeah, when you spawm SSE/SSS constantly you get alot of stun (doing it myself as a glaive, duh ;) ) But sometimes my luck runs out and I wont get a stun for like 5/6/7/8 SSE/SSS's after eachother, and that sucks

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usually pure str glaivers will start using snow shield when they know they are facing a good opponent(they might lose).... and if they do use snow shield they need xlarge mp pot....if not it's useless at 23-25%.

but usually glaivers aint gonna buy x large all the time(even i use large for my glaiver)unless he's too afaik to lose.. :D

within the 2 minutes int must kill the glaivers , on the other hand glaivers need to stay alive(by stunning) .after the 2 minutes gl to int(with average gears)... it's very hard to tank a farmed pure str with decent +7 glaive.
(what more when they crit LOL)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:31 am 
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adyp wrote:
i have a lvl 80 glavier full farmed 8.6k MP
If i use XL MP pots with 25% snow shild i have no problems (except sun weps)
I never told any int that is noob coz they use snow shild

why ints tell me "str snow noob"? coz with snow i can tank them until theyr snow finishes?

str + snow shild = crying int

Str + snow shield = even better..
Coz they cant fight :D
I spam skills so their mp get drained, and normal damage is recieved, and theyre dead :)


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i have a lvl 80 glavier full farmed 8.6k MP
If i use XL MP pots with 25% snow shild i have no problems (except sun weps)
I never told any int that is noob coz they use snow shild

why ints tell me "str snow noob"? coz with snow i can tank them until theyr snow finishes?

str + snow shild = crying int

Str + snow shield = even better..
Coz they cant fight :D
I spam skills so their mp get drained, and normal damage is recieved, and theyre dead :)


true dat...(but still, you need a good weapon)

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well the fact is that glaviers are the chars that any1 can make...
they are easy to pvp "hard to kill"...

imo i never had problems wit any glavier even if he had 30-50% better eq than i(i am pure int/int hyb)

when i was reskilling from fire to cold i was able to tank fully farmed glavier wit +7weap (Hitman420) on zerk (1.3k pdef+ 40%ms)...

i had pvp wit sun+7 glavier in sun armor set+5 that said to me "dont use bless spell cuz i cant kill u" (so i cancel bless spell and began next fight)
i binded him and after that he ran to safe zone and said to me that this skill is lame and i cant use either...
so i said to him maybe i should take off my set huh? and he ran to pvp some chinese noobcakes...

this game has stupid comunity did u ever heard some1 says to other player stop using that skill in any other mmo?

strs crying cuz they lost their advantage...
u can be noob and u still can kill 80% of ints easy... now ms helps them tank more... but when ints got good build, nice gear, good alchemy in it and most important not stupid player in front of pc! glavier have no chance...
thats the fact since 70lvl cap...

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well the fact is that glaviers are the chars that any1 can make...
they are easy to pvp "hard to kill"...

imo i never had problems wit any glavier even if he had 30-50% better eq than i(i am pure int/int hyb)

when i was reskilling from fire to cold i was able to tank fully farmed glavier wit +7weap (Hitman420) on zerk (1.3k pdef+ 40%ms)...

i had pvp wit sun+7 glavier in sun armor set+5 that said to me "dont use bless spell cuz i cant kill u" (so i cancel bless spell and began next fight)
i binded him and after that he ran to safe zone and said to me that this skill is lame and i cant use either...
so i said to him maybe i should take off my set huh? and he ran to pvp some chinese noobcakes...

this game has stupid comunity did u ever heard some1 says to other player stop using that skill in any other mmo?

strs crying cuz they lost their advantage...
u can be noob and u still can kill 80% of ints easy... now ms helps them tank more... but when ints got good build, nice gear, good alchemy in it and most important not stupid player in front of pc! glavier have no chance...
thats the fact since 70lvl cap...


youre a pure hybrid int? =|
And you have bind on a chinese char? HAWT!

Besides, crying is the way to go if you lose a pvp fight these days. Get used to it, or dont pvvvppp! Or well pvp and stop owning. I am used to crying so I just pvp a lot 8) :P

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Anyone who complains about int's with ice shield are retards tbh. Even with 50% ice shield, its not hard to kill them. Glaviers just whine because they can't just SSE>SSS>Mars to kill anymore.

Besides, whats worse is glaviers or blader with 40% ice shield. -.- So yeah, go complain about them instead of complaining about nukers with 40%.

Lets see here. If there was not snow shield and str's had a buff that made them better. All int's would cry. Lets say "Fire Labyrinth Shield" or whatever dumb name they would give it. Lets also say it doubled Phy damage. Who would complain that its unfair now? I think everybody with 10k-ish hp would quit from being a 1 hit ko.
Most people are 1hit kos nowadays, pop goes the wizard nuke everybody dead.

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i dont care, if you use snow or not. if you use snow, i use it too. at 25% i can launch my skills with no problems by using xtra large mp potions. i even can stand division with 25% snow shield as soon as your shield goes off, you're dead. it's that easy.

ps: i dont have sosun parts

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With my euro, ints with snow shield are a joke. Str with 30%+ on the other hand can be quite a bitch. Just waiting for the next cap, as a lot of str will drop ice down to lvl 30. Should be waaaay easier then.

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