Best classes for guild war?

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

What would be the best combination of classes and strategies for guild war now a days? Pls put your opinions here.

Something I came up with.

Party 1 (Front line party)
4 Warrior/Cleric
4 Chinese glavies or bowman

*notes
*Warrior/Clerics keep constant bless spell in party
*Warrior/Clerics put phy screen and moral screen on the other warriors
*Warrior/Clerics put phy and mag fence on glavie or bowman
*4 Chinese glavies or bowman are for fodder purposes to keep things in balance of keeping the enemy distracted or disrupted

Party 2 (Assassin Party)
4 Wiz/Clerics
4 Rogue(crossbow)/Clerics

*notes
*assuming the enemy has no idea the wiz and rogues are stealth ed/invisible
*Flank the enemy and disrupt their front line as much as possible
*If enemy is bunched up each wiz picks an enemy and does aoe attack to cause most damage
*What ever is left over rogues take them out or at least keep him at bay

Lone Wolf
Cleric
*Main job is to buff and res
*use reverse oblation as much as possible on rogue and wiz

Accumulative notes
*warrior/Clerics must coordinate their attacks together for highest possible efficiency of survival and damage.
*Wiz and Rogues must coordinate attacks for highest possible kills to leave nothing left
*Glavies do whatever is possible to kill the enemy

I don't think its an effective strategy. I hope though I learn some ideas from people that can see out side of the box

borat2 · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:19 pm

2bards
2cleric with warlock sub
2warrior (preferably 1hand)
1lower level wizard (72-74)
1rogue close to same level as the wiz

guaranteed you will win

CLOT · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 825 **Location:**

when u cant get a party up, 2 2h warrior = invincible mode vs. any 2/3 builds

especially 2 2h/cleric = taking turns of bless spell (45 sec + 45 sec), screen, phy/mag fence, iron/mana skin...2 KD, sprint assault (stun/kb)

seriously 2 2h warriors owns any 2 other builds easily...while 2 2h/cleric are godlike :wink:

deep.in · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:34 pm

Chinese

Blades and glaives in front, bowers and ints behind.

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

Lvl 80 wizard, fully farmed, deleveled to 64.

JacksColon · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 2018 **Location:**

everyone emphasizes the euros, but the chinese, IMO still do the brunt of the work fighting.

Also, another thing that is often overlooked but will allow a "weaker" guild to win is better communication. It's an intangible, but I've seen many similar-level guilds go up against one other and one get completely annihilated because they had people just going off and doing their own thing

Cresta · **Posted:** Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:32 pm

Any full sun.

HertogJan · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 1063 **Location:**

Any combo of people working 2gether, or any combo of euro buffed chinese sun owners.

[SD]Kratos · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 4787 **Location:**

2/3 clerics, a lot of archers, 2/3 glavie/blader to tank, and rest of nukers for dmg

underK · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 234 **Location:**

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

Lvl 80 wizard, fully farmed, deleveled to 64.

hm why deleveled?

RogueKiller · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1893 **Location:**

80 farmed blader and a 80 farmed glaiver

blader can give all the effects while the glaiver does the dmg

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

Kratos wrote:

2/3 clerics, a lot of archers, 2/3 glavie/blader to tank, and rest of nukers for dmg

I bet my party 1 could Kill your strategy alone. With warrior buffs on each of the warriors and 4 glavies its unstoppable with an outside cleric.

Lets see how much defense one of the warrior/cleric will have after all buffed?
iron skin
mana skin
phy screen
morale screen
bless spell
*buffs from outside cleric
Body Blessing
Soul Blessing
Force Deity
Mental Deity
Body Deity
WarCry

*In other words superman

mor_righ_anu · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 135 **Location:**

cwspartan wrote:

I bet my party 1 could Kill your strategy alone. With warrior buffs on each of the warriors and 4 glavies its unstoppable with an outside cleric.

Outside Cleric.. :roll:

its a GUILD WAR

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

mor_righ_anu wrote:

cwspartan wrote:

I bet my party 1 could Kill your strategy alone. With warrior buffs on each of the warriors and 4 glavies its unstoppable with an outside cleric.

Outside Cleric.. :roll:

its a GUILD WAR

LOL you make me laugh. Its called smart strategy by using a cleric that is not in the guild to help res, buff, etc.

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:07 am

cwspartan wrote:

mor_righ_anu wrote:

cwspartan wrote:

I bet my party 1 could Kill your strategy alone. With warrior buffs on each of the warriors and 4 glavies its unstoppable with an outside cleric.

Outside Cleric.. :roll:

its a GUILD WAR

LOL you make me laugh. Its called smart strategy by using a cleric that is not in the guild to help res, buff, etc.

It's also called cheating, as it defeats the purpose of a GUILD war.

Ok, you have a party of warriors. Doing what damage? Here comes my Euro party, 2 warrior, 3 wizards, a warlock, a cleric, and a bard. Your defenses are cut out because of warlock debuffs. The wizards nuke you for heaps. The bard lowers your damage. The cleric heals any damage done, shrugs off all damage done to him. This party is completely self-sufficient. If the battle drew out, this party would eventually win as it uses no pots whatsoever.

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

warriors have holyword so warlock debuffs are ineffective. My group of warriors and glavies all attack your cleric then your wiz-->bard-->whatever is left. In the process stunning the hell out of whoever they attack. If your cleric is out of guild then we go for wiz-->bard-->tankers

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:21 am

Maybe, but warlocks still have more then enough ways to render you ineffective without using debuffs. Trust me, people on my server now realise this and target me quite quickly. ~_^

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

for euro parties you gotta keep things going smooth and reliable or else it falls apart.

I think the best would be:

3 tanks
3 wizards
1 cleric
1 bard

that would allow all ints to have warrior buffs. bard can tambour and allow the pt to tank better.

3 parties like that + a few chinese bladers to knockdown enemies who go for the cleric and you got a kick ass force.

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

I can see how Fly's party could do good. Need more info including main class/subclass
3warrior/clerics?
or something else

I can see how you can keep a constant bless spell with this party if the sub classes are organized correctly.

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:43 am

cwspartan wrote:

I can see how Fly's party could do good. Need more info including main class/subclass
3warrior/clerics?
or something else

I can see how you can keep a constant bless spell with this party if the sub classes are organized correctly.

No subclasses. Euros don't need subs. In a party you will be playing one class only. The warrior switches to Bless, his buffs are gone. Two party members are screwed.

Fly · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 2114 **Location:**

yup. what necro said. warriors can cast defence on party members without needing a cleric sub. a warrior who switches weapons WILL get the party killed. the min his weapon is off his fence falls off the ints and its game over for them.

wizards could do cleric no problem. so can the bard.

whitesnow · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 102 **Location:**

I would have to go with 3 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 bard, and 1 cleric.

Bard can switch tambours as necessary.

minor off topic question: are fear, combustion, bind, hidden, and sleep prevented by cleric buffs?

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:01 am

whitesnow wrote:

I would have to go with 3 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 bard, and 1 cleric.

Bard can switch tambours as necessary.

minor off topic question: are fear, combustion, bind, hidden, and sleep prevented by cleric buffs?

I think Fear, Hidden and Sleep get through. Easy enough to completely disable a cleric before they're buffed anyway with a little help form Stun. (Daze/Wrath Daze from a warlock or Sprint Assault form a warrior)

whitesnow · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 102 **Location:**

Necrobat wrote:

whitesnow wrote:

I would have to go with 3 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 bard, and 1 cleric.

Bard can switch tambours as necessary.

minor off topic question: are fear, combustion, bind, hidden, and sleep prevented by cleric buffs?

I think Fear, Hidden and Sleep get through. Easy enough to completely disable a cleric before they're buffed anyway with a little help form Stun. (Daze/Wrath Daze from a warlock or Sprint Assault form a warrior)

You have to remember that everyone on servers other than Venus buff themselves up before they step out of safe zone...and ty for the info

Necrobat · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:07 am

whitesnow wrote:

Necrobat wrote:

whitesnow wrote:

I would have to go with 3 warriors, 2 wizards, 1 warlock, 1 bard, and 1 cleric.

Bard can switch tambours as necessary.

minor off topic question: are fear, combustion, bind, hidden, and sleep prevented by cleric buffs?

I think Fear, Hidden and Sleep get through. Easy enough to completely disable a cleric before they're buffed anyway with a little help form Stun. (Daze/Wrath Daze from a warlock or Sprint Assault form a warrior)

You have to remember that everyone on servers other than Venus buff themselves up before they step out of safe zone...and ty for the info

True, we're the only ones game enough to do everything in the field. lol Guess it's part of our military style.

No problem either. Though you can still knock the cleric out, though if they're full buff the warrior is the weakest link. You take him out and the party can crumble to pieces in seconds without those lovely buffs.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:15 am

underK wrote:

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

Lvl 80 wizard, fully farmed, deleveled to 64.

hm why deleveled?

80 skills on a 64 wiz = rapes high lvls = lots of points. 80 killing an 80 = decent points, 64 kiling 80 = like 1500

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

underK wrote:

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

Lvl 80 wizard, fully farmed, deleveled to 64.

hm why deleveled?

80 skills on a 64 wiz = rapes high lvls = lots of points. 80 killing an 80 = decent points, 64 kiling 80 = like 1500

If I had that 64 sosun staff won from the contest, I would do it. With your mastery at 80, you will be able to wear 3rd tier garments, and with the sun, the only thing you would lose is 16 STR/INT. I'd say its worth it to make 500 pts per kill. :wink:

underK · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 234 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

underK wrote:

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

Lvl 80 wizard, fully farmed, deleveled to 64.

hm why deleveled?

80 skills on a 64 wiz = rapes high lvls = lots of points. 80 killing an 80 = decent points, 64 kiling 80 = like 1500

oh i see, dindt think at that. btw it must take some time to delevel all that lvls

and to lvl up again...

donkyle · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 941 **Location:**

Fly wrote:

for euro parties you gotta keep things going smooth and reliable or else it falls apart.

I think the best would be:

3 tanks
3 wizards
1 cleric
1 bard

that would allow all ints to have warrior buffs. bard can tambour and allow the pt to tank better.

3 parties like that + a few chinese bladers to knockdown enemies who go for the cleric and you got a kick ass force.

what about the rogues

cwspartan · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 43 **Location:**

Its an alternative to a wizard I guess... But Wizards have skills that are a lot better in terms of slowing and completely demoralizing the enemy.

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