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 Post subject: Advanced Archer Guide - by zExyGirl (updated)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:13 pm 
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It seems like me and a lot of the archer guidemakers share different opponions on certain things. So a combination of caffein, boringness and a lust to write a bit, drove me to write this guide for fun :)


# Int, Str or Hybrid?
* Both Int and the Hybrid build is a nogo for an archer. Being a pure int or int hybrid, will benefit you a lot more with a sword, spear or both.



# Okey so im gonna go pure str, what about my skills?
* First im going to go over which skills you wanna get from Pacheon.
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Anti devil
Arrow combo
Explosion series
Strong bow
Autumn wind - optional (i heard positive use about it in group fighting)
Break Heaven Arrow Series
White/Blue hawk (will benefit a lot more than the black)
The passive (of course)



# So how should i use the skills?
* For training: use anti devil as your starter arrow. A lot of people then use berserk, and arrow combo to finish the mob off with. This is wrong. Do anti devil + arrow combo, then berserk. This is because arrow combo will very often (at the last book, almost every time) give the mob your imbue ability. Which in this case would be either frostbite or burn. Which will be useless if the mob is almost already dead.

Note: please keep in mind when you aquire Explosion Arrow book3, you should use this as your starter arrow. And strong bow will also be useless.

* For pvp: Keep in mind the advantages of being an archer are:
1. Range
2. Criticals

Now when opening up a pvp fight you want to do it from distance, start off with strong bow (if you have devil arrow use this instead), then follow it with anti devil. Also remember every time your opponent gets in a stab or a stun, phantom walk away and re-use anti devil to struck in a crit.
You phantom walking away can make you recover just as much hp as when they do a stun. And i have lost counts of how many glaviers bitch about me using this tactic :D
Now if youre fighting an int sword, a good idea (if you have this skill) is to cast icewall before start attacking. A lot of int swords tend to start stabbing when you get them with a crit. This is so they can recover hp.

(note - if you got quick fingers a good idea is to switch to a shield while lying down being stabbed, then reswitch to your bow, from your quickslot when youre up again)


# What about force, fire, lighting and cold?
* All four forces is actually a good idea. But requires a decent gap.

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Force (to 23, for rescue and harmony therapy)
Fire (max to 70, this should be your main tree)
Lighting (to 60 or 70, optional depending on how much sp you farm)
Cold (to 60 or 70, depending on how much sp you farm)



# So which skills should i choose?
*Lets start with the main tree, and take them one by one.

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Fire:

Imbue (max it, this will be your main imbue)
Fire shield (get the first three books, take the last if you want aswell)
Flame body (max it)
Fire protection (max it)
Fire wall (optional, can be good if you run low on hp, ghost walk and cast)
Fire nuke (useless for a pure str)
Flame devil force - passive (max it)
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Lightning:

Imbue (no good, waste of sp)
Piercing force (optional, wont benefit a lot to a pure str, i got it to book3)
Grasswalk/Phantom (get them as high as your light mastery allows it)
Lion Shout (useless)
Concentration (get it, however after book2 gain is not increased much)
Lightning nuke (useless for a pure str)
Heaven's Force - passive (max it)
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Cold:

Imbue (if you can afford the sp get it. Even at the cap a lot of people still isnt immune, and it can really make a big difference in pvp. The lower damage adds up if you got a powerfull enough bow)

Frost guard (get it as high as your mastery allows)
Cold wave (useless)
Icewall (get it if you got the sp)
Frost nova (Pvp skill, mostly for fun though. Im getting all 3 books)
Cold nuke (useless)
Cold armor - passive (max it)

Alternativly you can choose to not get force and instead up Heuksal to level 20 and get the passive lv 2

I recently removed force and instead got this passive. It adds up +200 hp which is a nice little boost :)

I mainly do jobbing with high levels now and force just became more and more useless to me.




# What gear should i use?
* Being an archer its hard to tank other pure str in 1v1 fights. This is due to the fact that we dont have stun nor stab, which immobiles the enemy thus allowing to recover hp. Therefor youre gonna want to be able to stand a good fight against other pure str. My recommendation is therefor that you wear protector :)
Archers already have a good advantage against int (especially spear ints)
due to the fact that they got longer range, and crits like hell. Now glaviers and bladers they can tank those crits a bit, but on int builds, crits fastly becomes deadly ;)




Okey i think that just wraps up about everything. I will try to be on, to answer any questions regarding this guide :)


(Updated - 18 / 11 / 2006)


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Erm.

Bow sux period.

Until level 69 ohhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh

So zexy - the day u get to feel the power. Let me know and we can make some 1vs1 bow video oh yeah.

I already got vids of me fighting strengths which = draw or I 7-10k critical them.
Old vid of me fighting int bow ( that was a joke )
Vid of me fighting a blader ( which was pointless )
Fighting criterion ( hybrid int spear )
Fighting amalie ( hybrid or basically pure int sword )

just need to fight str bow


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Nice guide, but 2 points that I would change:

First: It's Knockdown and not Knockback with a sword (Knockback is done with Spear/Glaive)

Second: Mention the gear to chose. Even so it should be well known that Garment is the one to chose some ppl new to the game might not know. First since archers are str the mag defense will be low otherwise and they get eaten by nukers, second as you already mentioned agility is everything: Garment increases the moving speed by 20%.
(Don't want to say you dont already know that cuz I'm 100% sure you have known for over 60 lvls^^ but as I said, some new players might not know.)

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Zext still gets eaten by ints in garms =D

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Hmm.. maybe havent had the chance to try it yet but Garment should still be the best^^

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crazy death wrote:
Hmm.. maybe havent had the chance to try it yet but Garment should still be the best^^

Course, otherwise I would just 1 shot. :P

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purefable wrote:
Erm.

Bow sux period.

Until level 69 ohhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh

So zexy - the day u get to feel the power. Let me know and we can make some 1vs1 bow video oh yeah.

I already got vids of me fighting strengths which = draw or I 7-10k critical them.
Old vid of me fighting int bow ( that was a joke )
Vid of me fighting a blader ( which was pointless )
Fighting criterion ( hybrid int spear )
Fighting amalie ( hybrid or basically pure int sword )

just need to fight str bow


Cant argue to that, we got a date when im 70 fully farmed then :P


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chaud wrote:
Zext still gets eaten by ints in garms =D


blahblah :P


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crazy death wrote:
Nice guide, but 2 points that I would change:

First: It's Knockdown and not Knockback with a sword (Knockback is done with Spear/Glaive)

Second: Mention the gear to chose. Even so it should be well known that Garment is the one to chose some ppl new to the game might not know. First since archers are str the mag defense will be low otherwise and they get eaten by nukers, second as you already mentioned agility is everything: Garment increases the moving speed by 20%.
(Don't want to say you dont already know that cuz I'm 100% sure you have known for over 60 lvls^^ but as I said, some new players might not know.)


Thanks for giving feedback, i added what gear to use :)


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 Post subject: Re: Advanced Archer Guide - by zExyGirl
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zexy wrote:
Fire:

Fire shield (get the first three books, take the last if you want aswell)


forgot to include a SHIELD in your gear list if you're gonna take that skill

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thx for the guide its really helpful :D :D :D ...kinda more detailed unlike other guides who asume every1 who reads it know what they r talking about :banghead:

iam a lvl 18 str/fire bowman kinda noobie :) i was wondering approx. how many sp would u need to get bow/fire and a supportive skill like light?
i farmed since i started...until lvl 16-17 cant remember i decreased the gap to 7 which iam using for now..and i got like 2100 points...some people say they got 10k at lvl 16 so iam kinda freaking out here!! i just hunt and do quests to cut the lvling time
also would it be smart to get fire as main with light for speed and then get res skills from force?? or just get light
about the garment thing...i got ur point but shouldnt armor be more helpful aganist glavie and such tankers in PvP??or it doesnt help that much??


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zexy wrote:
chaud wrote:
Zext still gets eaten by ints in garms =D


blahblah :P

by sp farming ints in garms, muahaha


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pinocchio wrote:
thx for the guide its really helpful :D :D :D ...kinda more detailed unlike other guides who asume every1 who reads it know what they r talking about :banghead:

iam a lvl 18 str/fire bowman kinda noobie :) i was wondering approx. how many sp would u need to get bow/fire and a supportive skill like light?
i farmed since i started...until lvl 16-17 cant remember i decreased the gap to 7 which iam using for now..and i got like 2100 points...some people say they got 10k at lvl 16 so iam kinda freaking out here!! i just hunt and do quests to cut the lvling time
also would it be smart to get fire as main with light for speed and then get res skills from force?? or just get light
about the garment thing...i got ur point but shouldnt armor be more helpful aganist glavie and such tankers in PvP??or it doesnt help that much??


No need to farm, you might want to do it at lv 64 up until 70 though. But just keep a 4-5 gap through the game and you should be just fine :)

About gear, if you use armor/protector being pure str, you will take greatly dmg from nukers. Its to balance it out, so you have an equal amount of defense in psy and mag.


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Nice guide.

Since archers are meant to attack from a distance and stay as far from close combat as possible, I do not understand why you do not have the Breaken Heaven Arrow Series on the skills list.

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Da_Realest wrote:
Nice guide.

Since archers are meant to attack from a distance and stay as far from close combat as possible, I do not understand why you do not have the Breaken Heaven Arrow Series on the skills list.



My bad, i knew i missed something, just wasnt sure what :D

Btw admins i would ask if this doesnt deserve a sticky 8) ?


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themskillz wrote:
zexy wrote:
chaud wrote:
Zext still gets eaten by ints in garms =D


blahblah :P

by sp farming ints in garms, muahaha
hahah oh that's pwnage x.x

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 Post subject: i think fire shield does not work for bow
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you wrote

Fire:

Imbue (max it, this will be your main imbue)
Fire shield (get the first three books, take the last if you want aswell)
Flame body (max it)
Fire protection (max it)
Fire wall (optional, can be good if you run low on hp, ghost walk and cast)
Fire nuke (useless for a pure str)
Flame devil force - passive (max it)
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I tried fire schield first book first level and when activating the game would say I can not use it, I think this one requires to have a sword and shield to be active

or did I do anything wrong ????

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U take shield, use skill, change back to bow... :wink:

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Yes you need a shield for that. Just make sure you have a shield in your inventory. What I do now is put: shield, fire shield, my normal weapon. In my F2 bar(which I use for buffs). This way I can just press 1.2.3 and I have the skill :P

Nice guide, could use some layout but the info it has is usefull.

Edit: darn you beat me :P

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~About pvp...

Dunno for u, but im using strong only when fighting archers or heuksals cuz i know it will hit them, when ur fighting blade/sword u risk alot by shooting strong cuz they might block it and we all know how much time u lose for precast :wink:

And im using berserk arrow also [along with 3arrow], cuz its ~anti and its very good when anti is on cooldown :wink:

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killer4fun wrote:
you wrote

Fire:

Imbue (max it, this will be your main imbue)
Fire shield (get the first three books, take the last if you want aswell)
Flame body (max it)
Fire protection (max it)
Fire wall (optional, can be good if you run low on hp, ghost walk and cast)
Fire nuke (useless for a pure str)
Flame devil force - passive (max it)
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I tried fire schield first book first level and when activating the game would say I can not use it, I think this one requires to have a sword and shield to be active

or did I do anything wrong ????


Yeah have a shield in inventory, use for example f3 for free slots. Put the shield in the 1st slot, fire buff in the 2nd, and your primary weapon in the 3rd. Hit 1 - 2 - 3, immune fast and easy ;)

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HellSharp's guide > Yours

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Bestest guide in the whole wide world if u dont like it will be forced to inflict pain upon ur testicles !!!!!

nice guide zexy :D

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Guide is now updated - a lot more useful and improved ;)

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Nice guide
I am stil debating over whether I should continue to level up the autumn wind
series, cuz its pretty crappy from my experiences. :?

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ShadowFang88 wrote:
Nice guide
I am stil debating over whether I should continue to level up the autumn wind
series, cuz its pretty crappy from my experiences. :?


Yea i dont have it either.

However it does have the effect of adding same amount of damage to multiple targets.

Its very limited how many archers i see with it though. And requires skills to use correctly i think :P

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