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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:51 am 
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Hey this is my first guide so please be nice and dont attack me if i make some mistakes :P

Goal :Building a 2:1 Hybrid int sword and shield nuker. Based on DEFENCE and AOE. Kill fast, much, and receive less dmg as possible.

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Bicheon

Image Hidden Blade Series

Very usefull in PvP and PvE. With a bit of luck you can knockdown your enemy. You should max it, so the utilisation of this skill with stab is ownage.

ImageKilling Heaven Blade Series

As the Hidden Blade Series, it is very usefull, because you can hit your enemy while he cant :D .The third book is a double stab, I think it is worth lvling this skill to get it, as it generally kill your enemy in pvp. In wars, if 2 sworder/blader use it at same time, the target has no chance.

ImageSword Dance Series

Optional, it can be good for the AOE (Area Of Effect). You can hit 3 enemis with that skill.

ImageShield Protection Series (Passive)

You are a sword & shield nuker! your shield is your best defence! So get a shield with a nice block ratio (more than 15 imo) and max the passive

P.S: No, i dont use chains series :roll:

Cold

ImageFrost Guard Series

It temporarily increase your physical defence, it is very usefull imo, so get the third book and max it.

ImageSnow Storm Series

Get the first book at lvl 30. The first book is pretty weak, but you'll need it to get the second book. That second book is very usefull for the aoe it procurs, and btw it looks very nice haha
So get the first book at leave it at lvl 1, at lvl 50 get the second book.

ImageCold Armor Series (Passive)

If you use it with frost guard series it seriously reduce the physical damage, so try to lvl it as much as you can.

Light

Image Piercing Force Series

You NEED this buff. It increase your magical damage, and you are a nuker, so you need to make as much magical damage as possible, so max this.

Image Wind Walk Series

Grass Walk is a must, get it, max it, and then get Grass-Walk Speed. It makes you run faster, so it means you can go faster from a mob to another, and you can also catch your enemies while jobbing, or run away from them :P
Ghost Walk Phantom makes you teleport from where you are to where your mouse is pointing, it is also very usefull, so get that book and lvl it if you need.

ImageLion Shout Series

It is a sort of quick nuke. Get the first book, it is usefull to finish a mob, or to kill low lvl thieves while jobbing.Get the second and third book if you want to go pure int, but i dont think it is very usefull as 2:1 hybrid.

ImageConcentration Series

As i said for the shield, you need good defence, and this skill increase your parry ratio, so get at least the second book maxed.

ImageThunderbolt Force Series

A great nuke. Lvl up a bit the first book when you are between 35-50 so u still make much damage, then get second book

ImageHeaven's Force Series (Passive)

Max it, same reason as shield and concentration series ^^

P.S: As this build is based on AOE, you can also get the lightining imbue.

Fire

ImageFire Force Series

This is my imbue, maxxed. Makes much damage and burns the enemy (kekeke)

ImageFire Shield Series

It is very usefull because it decrease the damage received when burned. You can beimmune to ice if you max it. If you plan to PvP much, max it, if not, get only what is usefull for you vs mobs.

ImageFlame Body Series

You are INT, and this increase PHYSICAL damage, so get the first and second book, third is ok but you're dealing with magical dmg.

ImageFire Protection Series

Everything that can give you more defence is good, s you dont have much HP, so max it if possible, but try to get atleast 3rd book.

ImageFlame Wave Series

Get first book, second if you need, and third is great for the AOE!!!

ImageFlame Devil Force Series (Passive)

Imo it is optional, because you already have the flame body series, but you can get the passive if you need/want

Force

ImageForce Increasing Series (Passive)

Gives nice amount of MP, optional though.

P.S: If you are a crazy harcore farmer, and you're gonna sp farm 150/200K, get the heuksal passive WITH Force passive.

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SP FARMING

Well you will need a large amount of SP, so if you can, SP farm at the den when you are lvl 16. IMO the Den is the BEST place. When you are higher lvls, it sux to get a 9lvl gap if you dont use GT. You can also lvl up with 5/6 gap but be carefull not getting stuck in the 4X/5X.

Gear

I recommend Armor or Protector. Protector is a bit better because of magical dmg reduce, so mobs like taoists will make a bit less magical dmg.

Alchemy

If you can get +3int and +3str on you gear it would be great!
For pure ints, only add str, because you alredy make much dmg.
Stamina Stones will add HP to your gear, it is usefull if you feel like you dont have enough HP!
Penetration Stones will reduce the enemy's chance to crit you, as you don't have much HP, it is better :P
Dont try to add crit stones, because nukes dont crit. O.o
Try to have the highest block ratio, it is always usefull.
Also try to increase your parry ratio.

CONCLUSION

This build is based on defence, your best defence is your shield with its block ratio, and then your concentration buff that increase parry ratio.
You also have much AOE attack (nukes, 2nd book of ice, all books of light and 3rd book of fire).
Be VERY carefull with Aoe!! dont get mobbed lol, even if your block ratio and your KD can save your life, dont try to kill 20 mobs at same time :P
The advantage with 2:1 hybrid int based on defence is that you can tank because you get less dmg!
Btw, try to select the skills you want by advance, and use this sp calculator to determinate how much you need exactly.


I hope you've enjoyed my guide and it has been usefull :P Please tell me if there are any mistakes or questions 8)

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^^you know im going to say spear is the strongest for 2:1 :D

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Master_wong wrote:
^^you know im going to say spear is the strongest for 2:1 :D


not if i block every of your attack and i KD/double stab you :D

thats why the Br is very important vs spear/glavies!

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bump :? :(

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awsome guide! Great job, even tho id change some lil things.
Awsome guide , congrats


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Nice guide but that if u are a hardcore farmer bit wont work.
U cant get higher than lvl 50 if u gonna skill in sword, fire, light, ice, force, spear.
Imo this is the best: bicheon, fire, light and heuksal for passive (if u wanna farm much)
Id get a little more int too. 1:2 too low imo.

Great guide though. :)

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W3GAN wrote:
U cant get higher than lvl 50 if u gonna skill in sword, fire, light, ice, force, spear.


I didnt talk about spear, just said ti would be great to get some passive :P not to max it like mofo lol, same for force, both are optional

thanks for reading :D

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W3GAN wrote:
U cant get higher than lvl 50 if u gonna skill in sword, fire, light, ice, force, spear.


I didnt talk about spear, just said ti would be great to get some passive :P not to max it like mofo lol, same for force, both are optional

thanks for reading :D

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aren't there only 2 books of snow storm? and you only need level 1 of book 1 to get book 2.

Edit: more comments:
Snake dance seems like a waste of SP, use shout it you want to attract enemies.
Flame body wisdom and the passive will be useless if you dont use physical skills like chains. If you use chains I'd say they are a must.
I wouldn't waste time with force just for the MP bonus, you'll have plenty from all the points in int.
If you are going to pvp I'd say phantom walk is a must, you need to get to the enemy fast to knock them down bbefore they hit you.
You must max book 1 of grass walk to get phantom, then only need level 1 of book 2 to max book 3 (if you go that route).

Edit 2:
if you arent going to at least max book 3 of ice guard don't get ice.
Frost nova woods is your friend, and you only need to get level 1 of book 1 to get it.
Also an alternative might be to get some levels into heuskal for the additioanl HP, although The sp and masteries are probabaly better spend in sword or getting cold to 68 for book 4 of ice guard.

edit 3:
Flame wave. You said you are an AOE nuker. Book 1 is not AOE. Book 2 does the most damage and is aoe. Book 3 hits the most enemies but is slightly weaker. I'd get book1 level 1, max book 2 and get 1 level of book 3. If you want to farm more max all 3, but book 2 is the most important.

The lightning nuke has the biggest AOE distance, but only hits 3 mobs. Personally I'd alternate between book 2 fire nuke, then book 2 lightning, and if there's still some alive around you use book 3 fire, or if just 1 use shout.


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hellsharpt wrote:
aren't there only 2 books of snow storm? and you only need level 1 of book 1 to get book 2.


it is a typo lol, i meant first book is weak :P


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good info though. Nice to see that you have finally picked a build and are leveling it past 20 :D


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hellsharpt wrote:
good info though. Nice to see that you have finally picked a build and are leveling it past 20 :D


lol ssshhh

and all my chars were past 32!!! i'll try to go past 42 now :P

my hybrid str spear dude was 34 rofl
and my pure str archer based on ur guide was 32(Ykos)

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hellsharpt wrote:
I guess I have to hold your hand for all your builds :twisted:


not for my hybrid str spear dude...

that build owns lol :D......ok not

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Master_wong wrote:
^^you know im going to say spear is the strongest for 2:1 :D


not if i block every of your attack and i KD/double stab you :D

thats why the Br is very important vs spear/glavies!



well im abit of both;

im full int spear b4 since 18-59 and when im lvl 60 i decided to change from spear to SS.. now i only keep spear skills to lvl 60 and lvl up my sword skills to lvl 50; other skills keep at my lvl.. need to farm abit on usefull sword skills..

my hi end nuker build; 70 sword, 63 spear, 80 fire, 70 light..

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IMO, BOME [Based on My Experiances];

almost all aswered by hellsharpt..

Fire nuke book 1 only gud b4 u get book 2 at lvl 43 BUT still usefull b4 lvl 57 coz u'll save alot on MP use.. my combo usually FWA + ghost spear; FWB + Heaven Shout / Earth Shout.. at lvl 58+ fire nuke book 1 not very effective since u need more att power/hi dmg; so delvl it back to lvl 1..

Ice is gud against STR based well u if u not goin to max it to atleast lvl 60 just forget it.. since u a hybrid u have gud HP but less mag deff [then full int] against full int; ice has no effect aginst other nuker.. IMO lvl up spear passive..

at lvl 60+ in 6 sec fire imbue u can kill 2 mobs or more.. FWB + HLShout = 1st dead mob; TTbolt + ELShout = 2nd dead mob ; backup WTbolt & ELShout..


i'll discuss more later..

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Maxing fire book 1 is fine.

I have it maxed and I use it all the time at yarkan.

It has better range than the lightning nukes and still does decent damage. I just do, book 2, book 1, book 3, book 1, repeat until he's dead or I have to run.

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nice guide mods may be stick it in a guides tutorials section?


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Maxing fire book 1 is fine.

I have it maxed and I use it all the time at yarkan.

It has better range than the lightning nukes and still does decent damage. I just do, book 2, book 1, book 3, book 1, repeat until he's dead or I have to run.


yes, fire nukes have long range attack compare to light nuke.. if u can affort the SP just max it out till lvl 64; fire nuke book 1 is a very usefull if u want to pull 1 monster out of crowd [non AOE] and at lower lvl.. if u getting mobed light is ur best choice.. for me, if tanking boss/giants my fave r nuke fire B2 & B3, light B1 & B2; coz of AOE.. arrange them in 4 slot; execute them 1 by 1, by the time u done execute the 4th nuke, 1st nuke is ready to use then repeat..

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hellsharpt wrote:
good info though. Nice to see that you have finally picked a build and are leveling it past 20 :D


lol ssshhh

and all my chars were past 32!!! i'll try to go past 42 now :P

my hybrid str spear dude was 34 rofl
and my pure str archer based on ur guide was 32(Ykos)


So how's it goin? What lvl are?

I was just curious. :roll:

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I guess I have to hold your hand for all your builds :twisted:


not for my hybrid str spear dude...

that build owns lol :D......ok not

:( :( I love str hybrid spear....
max fire nuke book 1. Awesomely fast cooldown, good dmg when maxed. I certainly love it.

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IguanaRampage wrote:
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I guess I have to hold your hand for all your builds :twisted:


not for my hybrid str spear dude...

that build owns lol :D......ok not

:( :( I love str hybrid spear....
max fire nuke book 1. Awesomely fast cooldown, good dmg when maxed. I certainly love it.


i love it too.. oh well, i vote for more fire power and hi dmg.. camon baby light my fire.. :D

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:D Nice guide with good information!!!

i am also doing SS hybrid nuker(now lvl48) but with cheaper SP

- Bicheon
- Light
- Ice
- Heuksal(lvl60 only for passive)

ill go with 1:2 but now lowering it to 1:3 to get more nuke damage due to the fact that i have taken heuksal for more hp and i can put extra blue STR to shield when compare to spear hybrid. My build is pretty defensive with shield,ice protection and hp passive plus i am using ice imbue.


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W3GAN wrote:
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hellsharpt wrote:
good info though. Nice to see that you have finally picked a build and are leveling it past 20 :D


lol ssshhh

and all my chars were past 32!!! i'll try to go past 42 now :P

my hybrid str spear dude was 34 rofl
and my pure str archer based on ur guide was 32(Ykos)


So how's it goin? What lvl are?

I was just curious. :roll:


31! I lose too much time at yarkan or hunting...

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~_~ completely Off topic but:

If there's a -)G(-Kratos, where's -)G(-Colette? -)G(- Lloyd?

AND WHY DON'T THEY PLAY SRO??? :P

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lol i still got some clanmates on troy...but they are in spectral union -.-

And there's no colette or lloyd :O :(

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lol i still got some clanmates on troy...but they are in spectral union -.-

And there's no colette or lloyd :O :(


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