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I've decided to go Str/Fire/Glaive build
What skills should i get for pvp (the weapon skills, fire, ice, lighting), what are they good for/why are they good, and how to use them (in a combo?)

Also, are there any useless skills i should avoid?

Thx in advance

No one answered ....lolz, well b4 i get back from school someone plz answer with detailed explanation. Remember, I need a list of good PVP skills not monsters...and if i should get any lightning or cold skills as well?

get soul spear moves and ghost pedal moves that's it basicly.
as for force I'd go with fire , more dmg than ice/light and glavie hits slow so ice kicks in late and get pilled away fast

don't bother getting bloody fan move unless you want it to help nulify nukes in pvp

Your main atacks should be soul spear truth and shost spear pedal. These will do the most damage. Bloody fan is a usless skill as faar as im concerned.

The combo skills can be good but are not quite worth it. The reason they are good is once you have them all you can hit many fast hits in a row giving yor oppnent little time to pot inbetween. On the other side the usually only have one strong hit during the combo, the other ones are usually crappy.

Also getting the first page of flying-draagon flow can be useful for pulling agro. So when you kill one mob or about to kill one you throw you weapon at another and draw it to you so you don't have to run around as much

The passive skill, (last book of all skill trees) is a must aswell. As a full STR your goal is to be a tannk, have lots of HP and the passive adds to this goal. Simpple as that.

Under finre, the imbue is a must, (the first book at the top of all element trees excluding force). This will increase your dmg greatly. The fire buff is great becuse it increase your dmg which is a good thing. And the passive under fire is also good becuase it permently increase yor dmg output.


Other helpful skills are the grasswalk under lightning, great for catching people, running from people and grinding.Because the faster you get from one mob to the next the faster yo can get xp Under the cold force I like the jump frezee skill because as a tank when lvling if you agro lots of mobs the frezee can help you by giving you extra time to pot up and knock off some mobs and save your life.

This is my opinion on this build, if ive forget anything or someone disagrees with these please correct me, I hope this helps. Also if I didn't answer anything to the extent you need just ask for more details.

WOW
Great help, especially Asharon
Only question now is what EXACT element skills to get, from your post Aharon, you said fire imbue, grasswalk, the passives (just the end ones?), anymore?

Also I'd love to freeze someone as I've seen them in pvp action, but I was told not to learn more than 1 imbue and is there a skill that does good damge and freezes a person? Or should i just stick with fire and not bother with ice?

How about
Frost Guard Series (ice)?
Concentration series (lightning)?
Fire shield series (fire)?
Flame body series (fire)?
Fire protection series (fire)?

Also, is the attack where you jump and slash downward strong called Soul Spear Truth? And the one that you strike around you really strong called Ghost spear pedal? Should I get the other books ahead of them?

yeah the one where you jump up and slash down is truth. Ghost spear petal is the first one.

Lightning speed buffs good, nothing else in that tree would be useful, besides the parry buff, mayb the magic buff if you like.

In fire, don't learn fire tower, or the nuke unless you are willingly to do something completely extraordinary for a str guy.
Fire shield only works with a shield, but I'm not sure if using the skill with a shield then putting it away would work.
Fire Protection is a must for str char, due to their low mag. def. (High mag dmg monsters would tear through them i.e. Earth Taoists and Earth Magicians at lvl 30)

Frost guards aren't worth it unless you learn it all the way to the end, meaning the last book.
Cold wave attk and frost nova can be worthwhile in vs monsters, but in PvP, pple like to cheat and auto pill.

Don't get the imbue for ice, not really worth it, but if you want to try a very rare build go for it.

Force is an interesting skill branch, that's my sub force along with my main (fire) and weapon. If you do get it though, don't get self heal, just select yourself and use the heal skill. The cure skills....big maybe. Is best saved for a party/guild/friend who ran outta pills (highly unlikely).

I would love to learn Vital spot attack series though...

Thx Suwin
Ok i got these skills:
Soul Spear truth
Ghost Spear pedal
Fire imbue
End passives for all elements
Grass Walk
Fire Protection series
Flame body series

Should I get Fire Shield series and concentration series?
Is there any other skills I should or should take off my list?
So I shouldn't get freezeing attacks such as frost nova?
For the skills lsited above, how many books in that skill should I learn and why just learn Soul Spear TRUTH and Ghost Spear PEDAL, why not the other one above that?

At level 10, i'm going with a 5 level gap instead of my 9 level cap currently, is this bad? >.>

You don't need the passive skills for all of the elemnts. The fire one is the only one that is going to help you, being physical dmg and it increasing your physical dmg.To even get any use out of any of the other passive you would need to max them, meaning you have to put 70 lvls onto that mastery. This would be a complete waste of SP.

As for fire protection, I could be wrong but don't you need a shield for this skill, I can't remember and im at school right now so I can't check, but I think you do.

As for frost nova, it woulnd't really help in PvP as it will get pilled away quickly, esp at a low lvl. it can be helpful for annoying people, such as botters and I find it extremely usful in PvE.

Soul Spear and Ghost Spear do the most dmg putting points into other skills will just waste SP. It is much harder to keep up with 3 skills at a higher lvl and they will fall behind making you weaker than you could be. So its smartest to pick the two strongest onces. It's not a bad idea to egt the first book of flying dragon just to pull aggro to you and thats all. Last under glavie/spear skills would be the passive as it increase your HP.

Also I think that Fire shield requires a shield, then agian not 100% sure.

And farmings not a bad thing if you can stand it as it gets you lots of SP which is always good. But I couldn't stand to do it for more than 4 lvls :p

~Ash

I agree with Asharon, except for...



Actually, you don't need a shield for the fire protection serie, but I think that skill is mostly useful in PvP against nukers. It'll save some HP pots while grinding but IMHO it's not necessary unless you farmed some extra sp... Choose garment instead : more running speed, less MP consumption... and better magical defence

I farmed 6k sp till lvl 22 and since, I'm doing with a 2 lvl gap, maxing 3 masteries (heuksal, fire and lightning). I only max 8 skills (fire imbue, flame body, soul spear, ghost petal, GW flow, and the 3 passive ones).

Right now, at lvl 31 I still have 5k sp. NOT WASTING SP with uselesss skills is the most important thing I think... Just pick the skills you need for grinding

O.K. thanks a bunch to both you
Just one last question:
Why PEDAL and TRUTH books in the series? can't I get the others?

you can get all the skills u want but those 2 series have the highest add % to damage ... also soul spear series has a stun which in a pvp situation is godly.

... oh i miss read... when they talk about truth and pedal... they don't mean just those 2 skills... they mean get the whole series.

well, if they said pedal or truth, they must mean that, right?
And i noticed the ones after it costs alot of mana, is this why?
Can anyo of u guys clarify this? >.>

Im fire glaive build as well and I also have a question. Ive maxed out my fire imbue first book, should i continue on and learn the second book (Extreme fire force)?

Yes.

And contrary to what they said, GET THE CHAINS. 4 chain hits VERY fast, and does good damage, 5 chain is AWESOME for leveling, and 3 chain is good too.

well, my question was lost inbetween your question so i'll restate it
Should I learn the other skills after the Pedal and Truth spear series? I'm wondering cuz u specifically said pedal and truth, u didnt say ghost spear series or w/e, is it cuz of the mana consumption or what?

u shuold get the whole series for soul spear and ghost petal...i got dancing demon spear just for lvling early on...im tempted to get the 2nd book but i want to save my sp for more important skills

as for the fire shield, yes u do need a shield to use it but what most ppl do is equip a shield, cast the buff, then equip ur glaive again...takes less than 5 secs

and for the chains, all of them are good for pve...the 4 hit combo is espcially good for pvp cuz it does fast dmg is a small amount of time

Yep, max 1st, 2nd and 3rd book of soul spear serie and ghost petal series. Don't get the other ones unless you have extra sp... (Maybe 1st lvl of Flying Demon to pull mobs).
Whereas chain series, that would fit an int or hybrid character because chains get more benefit from the fire imbue, but if you are full str I'd tell you not to waste sp in that serie : 2 skills are enough for PVE... For PvP : chains may be cancelled or slowed by a cold user and let time for your enemy to pot, whereas ghost petal is an instant attack.

When you'll get 2nd book of soul spear serie, you'll be able to do that combo : Soul spear Truth - Ghost Petal - Soul spear Move. At this moment, it'll be time to imbue again and repeat the combo.

I dun know, cuz after ghost spear truth, the next one has below (200%) which I read is not what I should get. For pedal, I guess I could gain more books after that. Is this correct? I mean, I hear about pedal and truth all the time, why do you call it that if the purpose is to get the last skill in that series?

And do I need cheusem or w/e at the last glaive skill to add bonus h.p.?

Lol, I've paid much attention to Fly's guide, too

I think it's a very good guide though a bit too short. Fly doesn't detail which skills are good in heuksal mastery. He only says every skill with a% over 200 should be learned... OK, last book of soul spear (depart?) serie has a% under 200. But soul spear serie is the basic skill for any glavier because of the Stun effect which is a must.

Keep in mind soul spear-soul (last book) is a 2 shots skill with a 30%stun effect on each shot. YES, the percentage is 175% BUT still far better than chain-spear shura(78%). And don't forget the stun effect!!

I can hardly imagine any high-level glavier not maxing every book of soul spear serie....

Honestly, Fly's guide is really useful but maxing wolf bite and dancing demon series isn't useful IMHO though their % is 200+... Getting 3 masteries to 50 costs some sp, only hard-core sp farmers can afford maxing those skills...

well, wouldn't mana be a problem? i mean 1000+ mana to use the last book skills... wow

And that spear/glaive last skill that adds H.P., cheuseum or w/e, should i get it?

MP consumption is a problem for every full str character... I guess that every weapon skill costs nearly the same amount of MP when it's maxed at the same character's lvl. Anyway with autopoting on, it shouldn't be a problem.

And yes, the cheolsam is worth to max it IMHO : extra HP for few SP are welcome !!

that's why u wear garment to reduce the mp consumption

And thats also why I go through double or tripple mp pots compared to hp. This game is pot reliant, i mean whos going to kill one mob sit rest for 5 mins kill then next etc. As a str you don't need to pot hp very much so most of your pots will be mp.

I spend around 200k on pots/pills for evvery grind and this can last me a couple hours hour grinding. So if your using lots of mp you gotta buy lots of mp pots thats all

Also go for garment as a str. You are already full str which adds to your pysical defense so why wear armor to up that even more? You are already lacking magic d so wear garment, and you get the bonus of being faster and the reduction of mp.

Ok, i'm getting:
Soul spear series (All of them)
Ghost spear series (All of them)
Fire imbue (all)
Grass walk (all of the first book, correct me if i'm wrong)
Flame body series (all)
Flame Devil Force (all)

Is that it, or is there some skills to add or take away?
I know i posted this alot, but in other games, i reach like lvl 90 and have to restart due to messed up stats, just gatta be 100% sure...Thx in advance

The topic keeps going down, bumps ^^

Get Chain Spear, at least the first 3 books. Shura does much more than Truth when you add all the hits, and it hits at a decent speed, although nobody could say its fast.

It looks fine to me, but don't forget cheolsam and heaven's force (fire and lightning passive skills). They only cost a few skill points... You can also choose GW phantom when at lvl 32 (honestly, I haven't tryed it yet but I will soon ).

You may get some other skills (mainly concentration, fire protection, flying dragon, chain spear or even fire shield), if you have enough sp. Actually, you can choose anything : it's up to you...

what defense buff would you recommend? Like which is the best out of all the defense spells that increase pary and defense?

This'll be my last question