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xer1cx
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Post subject: Fire going out? [Worth your time if you got fire] Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:43 am |
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When i read the light +ice or light +fire should i delvl? by lint thread, which can be found here. I saw that fire isnt going to be affective any more. Why? Fire is the best imbune ever used and now people are going to delevel the fire imbune?
Why this? I heard some of the people talking about a mana shield. I bet thats for a eSRO charcter skill aint it? Completely bullsh1t. Europe made this happen didint they? They ruined the best ancient race! [That was not a racial comment, just saying that ancient chinese movies with the powers and stuff complety just make the europe gods and etc pathetic]
So can anyone explain to me?
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:29 am |
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Umm ??? I can't understand you tottally
Some pure int guys won't use fire imbue since there is only 90 damage diff or so compared to lightning on lv 79. and nukers want mana shield on max lv +lightning for sure. so they can either choose fire for last tree but why ? without weapon skills they get way too many interruption so fighting only by nukes is not a good way
And after 90 cap you gotta delvl fire if you want to be efficient
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Deacon
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:31 am |
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Many int nukers want that "ice buff reduce" because it removes like 40% on lvl 40 or so.. So thats why people wondering if they should go ice instead of a other 1.. I dnno 
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lilly_
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:32 am |
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OMG...
mana shield is a new skill for CHINESE characters, and ints, i repeat INTS are droping fire, this "best imbue" so they can TANK, which is what they lack...
So what if they have the "best imbue" and deal 100000000k dmg, they can still get killed with like 1-2 continuous crits by a glavier for example, especially now that skills are up to 80
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:32 am |
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I dont understand why nuker need fire ...
only the imbue is better
ICE & LIGHT FTW 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:33 am |
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BOMB EURO! XD
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:47 am |
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fire isnt that much stronger, you noobs make it seem like you will see like 5k damage difference between fire and light or ice.
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soxdrop
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49 am |
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lilly_ wrote: OMG... mana shield is a new skill for CHINESE characters, and ints, i repeat INTS are droping fire, this "best imbue" so they can TANK, which is what they lack... So what if they have the "best imbue" and deal 100000000k dmg, they can still get killed with like 1-2 continuous crits by a glavier for example, especially now that skills are up to 80
maybe thats why i killed a glavier 5 lv over me tho he crited twice with sss O.o
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:00 am |
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i dont need ice any higher then lvl 60.
the fire and light nukes are alot stronger and with a good prot set...
it takes a sun and a half to kil me
only thing i have to do now is get a good prot set 
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xer1cx
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:59 pm |
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So this mana shield is from the ice mastery?
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DragonTalon
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:03 pm |
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godisaglavier wrote: I dont understand why nuker need fire ... only the imbue is better ICE & LIGHT FTW  That isnt the problem. Trust me if we could delvl fire we would. But imagine lvling up fire to lvl 50 and delvling just cause of one skill. That would cost you alot of gold which alot of us (like me) dont have.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:06 pm |
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xer1cx wrote: So this mana shield is from the ice mastery?
yes.
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xer1cx
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:08 pm |
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wow thats bullshit. ice gets physical buff and mana shield buff.
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DragonTalon
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:10 pm |
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xer1cx wrote: wow thats bullshit. ice gets physical buff and mana shield buff. Well thats why most nukers need it. If they dont have uber SOS/SOM/SOSun gear then they have to rely on the buffs to survive in PVP against those damn Soul Spear books 
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:10 pm |
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Mana shield pwns! Although the cool really sucks.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:14 pm |
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im going to have
light 70
fire 80
bicheon 80
ice 50
i can go without 1% more magic dmg but im still going to have to lower fire when the cap raises oh well for now it stays
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butcha
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:18 pm |
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Im siting here and waiting for some1 smartass answer lol  . I have fire 69, light 60, weap 50, ice 30.
Should i collect like 400 curst hearts and up light for imbue and after that up ice?
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egyptology
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:39 pm |
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lilly_ wrote: OMG... mana shield is a new skill for CHINESE characters, and ints, i repeat INTS are droping fire, this "best imbue" so they can TANK, which is what they lack... So what if they have the "best imbue" and deal 100000000k dmg, they can still get killed with like 1-2 continuous crits by a glavier for example, especially now that skills are up to 80
You are wrong my good sir.
The best imbue for an int is light. Try nuking with light and then fire for around 50 times, you'll see there's a noticeable difference.
So, anyone who went fire...it's a waste. The only reason to GO fire is becuase of the THREE (now 4) nukes in the fire tree versus TWO for the other trees. More nukes that are higher level = more damage.
In summary....fire is a waste.
Ice is good for defense, and light is good for offense (the downside though is you attract more mobs; I like this though...faster grinding).
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:46 pm |
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egyptology wrote: lilly_ wrote: OMG... mana shield is a new skill for CHINESE characters, and ints, i repeat INTS are droping fire, this "best imbue" so they can TANK, which is what they lack... So what if they have the "best imbue" and deal 100000000k dmg, they can still get killed with like 1-2 continuous crits by a glavier for example, especially now that skills are up to 80 You are wrong my good sir. The best imbue for an int is light. Try nuking with light and then fire for around 50 times, you'll see there's a noticeable difference. So, anyone who went fire...it's a waste. The only reason to GO fire is becuase of the THREE (now 4) nukes in the fire tree versus TWO for the other trees. More nukes that are higher level = more damage. In summary....fire is a waste. Ice is good for defense, and light is good for offense (the downside though is you attract more mobs; I like this though...faster grinding).
no a good reason is the magic defense buff in fire have you ever seen a pure int nuke a hybrid they get hit HARD so fire still a good choice for hybrid and pure str
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:53 pm |
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OK, approach this logically just looking at the forces in an overall way. Fire: Most of the skills and buffs are oriented towards a str char. Light: Most of the skills and buffs are oriented towards an int char. If you have to pick three trees (and you will eventually) a more logical overall choice would be weapon + ice + light. It's not that fire is bad, it's not. For an INT char thp, light has more overall benefits.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:07 am |
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Str should use fire cause of th mag def. buff and str buff and the extra damage due to fire being the strongest imbue. And if they are str then they wouldn't need the light imbue that much to move faster cause they should be using garmets.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:25 am |
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im kind of confused. Wtf is the mana shield. Also my build is (currently) lvl 31 pure str fire bowman. So do I need to delvl my fire, or is that only for the int nukers?
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xzaz
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 12:51 am |
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darkblazer1 wrote: im kind of confused. Wtf is the mana shield. Also my build is (currently) lvl 31 pure str fire bowman. So do I need to delvl my fire, or is that only for the int nukers?
Mana shield is a skill from the Ice tree. it reduce the HP and put it on MP.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:03 am |
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i would say fire or ice depends on players' gaming emphasis.
if you are more inclined to 1v1 pvp, then ice would be better because you got that bit more to tank, which otherwise your 16k+++ mana is hardly used.
if you are more pvm, more on group pvp or guild war (support role), but lesser on 1v1 pvp, fire would probably be better. or for that matter, you may even ditch your weapon skills to get fire/light/ice.
before the mana shield, ice wasnt that attractive and players were willing to sacrifice what was deemed a little more phy def for a lot greater fire damage (imbue and nukes + mag def). ice with mana shield + phy defence offers more than before and thus making it a tree harder to ignore now.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:16 am |
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This is what it is for INT
FIRE provide vital nuking power.
LIGHT provide vital nuking power and buffs.
ICE provide survivability.
as for STR
FIRE gives them more att power and magical defense.
LIGHT gives them good buffs.
ICE gives them even better defense.
I think JM did a good job there, now all tree are almost as good.
We give and take, you can't have all.
For INT, it is a hard choice, I see ppl goin 2 diff directions
1) Weapon/Ice/Light
2) Ice/Light/Fire
for STR its easier, Weapon/Light/Fire
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:19 am |
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i am str and i use wep/ice/force and light the ice slows them down and light i use for grasswalk and force to res in guild war or going on trades
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:22 am |
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I'm an ice blader anyway, but I keep fire for the buffs. I also have the imbue, but i've been planning on deleveling it for a while now.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:59 am |
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Doing light & cold is more of a tanking build. You will lose a lot of dmg from fire. Fire & lighting is still the highest damaging build.
I suppose you can take ice to lvl68 and leave heuksal to 63~76 or something for 90 cap. keep lighting and fire at 90
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xer1cx
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:27 am |
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Well, how big is the effect of the mana shield? I'm not gonna use money for delevel on this game that I dont even play every week. Well, I got no intention of PvP. So I guess that fire is still good for non-PvP.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:46 am |
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xer1cx wrote: Well, how big is the effect of the mana shield? I'm not gonna use money for delevel on this game that I dont even play every week. Well, I got no intention of PvP. So I guess that fire is still good for non-PvP.
50% dmg reduce, a LOT
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