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 Post subject: Rogue with Cleric SubClass
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:59 pm 
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As I was bored cause im reinstalling SRO. I was watching some youtube videos and I noticed that none of the rouges had cleric as their subclass.

I was wondering many things, such as:

At lvl. 80 can I go:

80 Rogue

80 Cleric

Also, I wanted to know what cleric moves I can use then when I switch to xbow or dagger will stay? Like Bless Spell and such. Which ones are they. Can someone with knowledge of this build please help me?


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If I up like Bless Spell or Healing Division, what do I need as a prequisite? Faith or something? Please tell me all I need to max at 80. So I can know how much I have to farm. :)

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most rogue just get cleric skills becuase of the recovery division and the blessed spell is good even though it last for 45 sec. you can use on giant and zerk you can finish with using any hp pots.

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Bless is the only one that you would benefit from the most.

Other skills are for support that wont help you at all.

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Im looking for pvp not grinding. I know that Bless Spell will help me tank at lvl 80 for a few seconds. Healing Devision and such will be my anti 15 sec pot delay so I can deal harsh crits with my rogue.

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by the time you are done switching weaps...you will lose your distance advantage ( or any advantage you may have gained with kd and kb attks)

soon after it will be over for you.


Basically if you get in a situation where you need more healing than the pots offer, odds are you are already screwed.

On top of that, rogue pvp is more based on stealth kills... geting your opponent by surprise than actually taking them head on. You can't really have a formal PvP. Rogues/assassins are called what they are for a reason. They attack an enemy by exploiting their enemies biggest weakness. you can 't kill what you can't see.

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DiabolicBow wrote:
Im looking for pvp not grinding. I know that Bless Spell will help me tank at lvl 80 for a few seconds. Healing Devision and such will be my anti 15 sec pot delay so I can deal harsh crits with my rogue.


lol I know what you mean but it doesnt quite work like that.

Maybe you should play a pure rogue before using sub-classes.

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shoto wrote:
by the time you are done switching weaps...you will lose your distance advantage ( or any advantage you may have gained with kd and kb attks)

soon after it will be over for you.


Basically if you get in a situation where you need more healing than the pots offer, odds are you are already screwed.

On top of that, rogue pvp is more based on stealth kills... geting your opponent by surprise than actually taking them head on. You can't really have a formal PvP. Rogues/assassins are called what they are for a reason. They attack an enemy by exploiting their enemies biggest weakness. you can 't kill what you can't see.


Could I use that healing skill that heals u over time and then stealth? Then go and rock them?

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Priest minor doesn't offer as many choices as other subs, but you can play it if you want, won't make too much of a difference from a pure rogue but you'll notice a division from other subs, but if you have a party the division won't be major.

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cleric works well for players who will support, cause the int and str buffs help anyone in the game and so do the heals, but you must be cleric to use 99% of the shit that is useful.


for a rogue and most pvp oriented euros i find bard is best for getting moving march, mana cycle and noise.

small amount of sp and no need to up it to 80 so plenty of sp to focus on ur primary skills.

any other sub class for rogue is up to how you really plan to farm before even testing the build.

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DiabolicBow wrote:
shoto wrote:
by the time you are done switching weaps...you will lose your distance advantage ( or any advantage you may have gained with kd and kb attks)

soon after it will be over for you.


Basically if you get in a situation where you need more healing than the pots offer, odds are you are already screwed.

On top of that, rogue pvp is more based on stealth kills... geting your opponent by surprise than actually taking them head on. You can't really have a formal PvP. Rogues/assassins are called what they are for a reason. They attack an enemy by exploiting their enemies biggest weakness. you can 't kill what you can't see.


Could I use that healing skill that heals u over time and then stealth? Then go and rock them?


yesh
i did it all the time.
also dont act chinese on a rogue you shouldnt challenge some1 2 a dual, just pump healing division, destealth desperate dagger/xbow extreme, stealth then go shank/snipe some poor bastard

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actually cler is the best sub for rogue...
1.recovery division 5min
2.bless spell - gives u 45 sec boost of pdef and mdef
3.holly spell - prevents u of gettin ANY status (dono if i get bleed or division but im pretty sure ...im unfreezable... and i dun get dull etc...)

and cleric works great if u wanna help some for example u r thief and some part of ur union are hunters/traders u just go and heal/buff them...

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shoto wrote:
On top of that, rogue pvp is more based on stealth kills... geting your opponent by surprise than actually taking them head on. You can't really have a formal PvP. Rogues/assassins are called what they are for a reason. They attack an enemy by exploiting their enemies biggest weakness. you can 't kill what you can't see.

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For cleric sub get you'll need to get Bless which last 45 seconds and Recovery Division which last 300 seconds theres are other worth getting but those are your main ones. With recovery division you can basically buff and forget but it'll take more thought on knowing when to use Bless.

Don't listen to ppl who tell you how to play your rogue its a really pretentious thing to do. I can understand suggestions but the Rogue is the most versatile Euro class available and depending on the sub you choose will both reflect YOUR playing style.

Besides @shoto anyone whose ever jobbed with rogue before knows they can scout a party buff and stealth and be just fine without losing any surprise advantage....

heres the subclass break down PvP wise

Cleric= More Def
Bard=Faster moving speed
Warlock= Higher Damage

decide whats best for your playing style and go from their...

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Hey guys, I've got a question about another buff. Does Holy Armor and Glory Armor stay after you switch. I didn't think so, but it would be great if it would :roll:


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