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 Post subject: 90 cap str bow
PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:11 pm 
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I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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Anjie wrote:
90:bow
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I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


No lightning? ... damn they only reason I made chinese is
coz of speed boost and ghost walk - phantom/shadow ...
Up to you ...

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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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Nitrozz wrote:
Anjie wrote:
90:bow
90:fire
90:ice
I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


No lightning? ... damn they only reason I made chinese is
coz of speed boost and ghost walk - phantom/shadow ...
Up to you ...

If I wanted to move fast I would make a euro with a bard sub. :roll:
light just has the speed boost and some useless buffs for strs imo.


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u can skill lightning up to 30. Than u walk ~32% faster.


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u dont really need 90 ice for a pure str bow.

if u doing it cuz of snow shield then ur sadly mistaken, from wat i heard, snow shield depletes your mana while it takes the hits ... so ur a pure str so that means u got little mana anyways. so why 90 ice again? its only got snow sheld, def buff and passive ... while light gots speed,passive,piercing,parry. i say

90 fire
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80 light
40 ice ... at the max , but without ice its 90 fire-bow and light.

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I'm definitely not doing it for snowshield :P
but lets see what is in light;
speed: I can always use drugs, scrolls ect.
piercing: magical attack power. no thanks
parry: so so. might be helpful but I would rather have the defense buff.
see where I'm going?


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Anjie wrote:
I'm definitely not doing it for snowshield :P
but lets see what is in light;
speed: I can always use drugs, scrolls ect.
piercing: magical attack power. no thanks
parry: so so. might be helpful but I would rather have the defense buff.
see where I'm going?


no im not seeing where ur going ... if u say ur gonna use drugs for speed, well ur wasting ALOT of money there.

the point of a bowman isnt to last the battle, its like a nuker ... kill them before they reach you.

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Anjie wrote:
I'm definitely not doing it for snowshield :P
but lets see what is in light;
speed: I can always use drugs, scrolls ect.
piercing: magical attack power. no thanks
parry: so so. might be helpful but I would rather have the defense buff.
see where I'm going?


no im not seeing where ur going ... if u say ur gonna use drugs for speed, well ur wasting ALOT of money there.

the point of a bowman isnt to last the battle, its like a nuker ... kill them before they reach you.

orly?
I didn't know that was the point of a bowman. Also, I don't know how light is gonna make me kill them any faster. Magical attack power? :?
For your information you can also get nice speed boosts from bards.


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Anjie wrote:
orly?
I didn't know that was the point of a bowman. Also, I don't know how light is gonna make me kill them any faster. Magical attack power? :?
For your information you can also get nice speed boosts from bards.


so your saying, everytime your gonna pvp/job/ watever ... you are gonna find a bard to buff u?? <--- you made my bro lol

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Youll have a tough time surviving in PvP without phantom

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okey day. Seeing that nobody agrees with me, I suppose grasswalk/phantom is a really necessary skill. 8) :P
and no, i didn't say I would look for a bard every time I job and pvp. I'm just saying there is a balance between drugs, scrolls, and buffs. Anyway, I have plenty of euro friends who already job with me.
And what happened to your point about killing faster with light? :roll:


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Anjie wrote:
And what happened to your point about killing faster with light? :roll:


i never said anything about it, u said it

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Also, I don't know how light is gonna make me kill them any faster

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Go 90pach 90fire 60ice 60 light.
If you want a (small) def boost.
60 light gives 19m phantom. 90 give around 22-23.

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_Panu_ wrote:
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And what happened to your point about killing faster with light? :roll:


i never said anything about it, u said it

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Also, I don't know how light is gonna make me kill them any faster

I guess I misread. You just confused me because you said the point of a bowman is to kill them before they reach you.
Nvm I guess you meant that you just phantom away and try to keep killing them that way.
My bad. :wink:


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also when ur jobbing and 2-3 are on u the phantom is the only way to escape since they dono which direction ur going , if u only have bard speed buff they just catch up with u with there phantom and stun or knockdown u till the others catch up and then ouch game over :(

so light is very necessary


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Well, I guess I have come to the conclusion that without light your dead. :D
So I think a more reasonable idea is to go 90 bow, 90 fire, 60 light, and 60 ice as Hasbin was saying.
Thanks for the input everyone.
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Ya...i believe if theere is job war...we will aim bowman first as they r very very very troublesome...keep on KB...so annoying....so if u dont have phantom....u gonna be dead in job war...cuz u cant run awayXD....


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I am making a new str bower going pacheon;90, lighting90, fire90 and ice 30.

Reason; My old bow account was awesome in pvp and didnt need ice for the defense.

However if I got time to kill, I will farm enough to have ice and lighting going up at the same speed. My aim till I am farmed at cap is: pacheon71, fire71, lighting71 and ice 60. I will need the defense of ice until I get the knockback and stun arrow.

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[quote="Anjie"]
speed: I can always use drugs
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mmmmm.....drugs! mmmm

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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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Anjie wrote:
90:bow
90:fire
90:ice
I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


light is awesome ice will not help much for a pure str bow. ditch the ice take light to 90 that is what am doing

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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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bigmachini wrote:
Anjie wrote:
90:bow
90:fire
90:ice
I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


light is awesome ice will not help much for a pure str bow. ditch the ice take light to 90 that is what am doing
if u leave light at 70 u can save 112k sp just so u know, all u get is for those 20 lvls is like 10% speed about 10 parry and a few meters on phantom, is it worth it? who knows


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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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Braka wrote:
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Anjie wrote:
90:bow
90:fire
90:ice
I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


light is awesome ice will not help much for a pure str bow. ditch the ice take light to 90 that is what am doing
if u leave light at 70 u can save 112k sp just so u know, all u get is for those 20 lvls is like 10% speed about 10 parry and a few meters on phantom, is it worth it? who knows


and 20% more something for the mastery

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Im 90% Hybrid STR Bow and im going:

90 Pacheon
90 Fire
90 Light
30 Cold

Light is essential...and cold 30 is just nice for a small snow shield

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u dont really need 90 ice for a pure str bow.

if u doing it cuz of snow shield then ur sadly mistaken, from wat i heard, snow shield depletes your mana while it takes the hits ... so ur a pure str so that means u got little mana anyways. so why 90 ice again? its only got snow sheld, def buff and passive ... while light gots speed,passive,piercing,parry. i say

90 fire
90 bow
80 light
40 ice ... at the max , but without ice its 90 fire-bow and light.


agree. maybe u want ice to annoy ppl or grind?
dont underestimate lightning too

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70 Light~

16% Mag buff / 67% Moving speed / Mhantom 21meters / parry 29buff+29passive=58parry

Sp Cost=54,011
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80 Light~

17% Mag buff / 73% Moving speed / Phantom 22meters / parry 31buff+31passive=62parry

Sp Cost=96,141
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90 Light~

18% mag buff / 77% Moving speed / Phantom 23meter /
parry 34buff+33passive=67parry

Sp Cost=166,488
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looking at this closey i can see that it might be more worth it with the lvl 70 light making other trees like cold to be raised to 50 with a lvl 50 cold tree we can have.

18buff+18passive=36 phy deffence boost
book 1 and 2 of frost nova to freeze those ints without ice immunity
33% Snow shield (will our mp run out with 33%? i have no idea)

so looking at this i myself would pick 70 light and 50 ice, apart from the sp saving we dont really get much bonus from the light and when 90 cap comes we wouldnt have to fear about delvling which trees because all we do is drop ice to 30 and up bow and fire to 100.

what do u all think?

i normally dont write down my ideas because i like to keep my builds my own style etc but would like some feedback this time


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Yeah, Lighting doesnt seem worth the sp for the little difference
2% more mag dam 10% spd increase 2 more meters and 9 parry


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 Post subject: Re: 90 cap str bow
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Anjie wrote:
90:bow
90:fire
90:ice
I have calculated that I will need around 675,114 sp which is nothing considering I'm powerfarming.
I think I'm gonna ditch light completely. Seems a lot less helpful than ice.

What do you guys think? :D


um all i can say is this is a pure fail build ok ice 90 for wat if u already pure str and if u getting 90ice for snow shield u are a even bigger idiot the most a pure str needs is 20 ice or 30 ice for 90 cap
u are perfectly fine with first book of snow shield heck im pure str
and in pvp i have that snow shield i always get the no more mp message
so basically u dont need 90 ice OMG wait u said u a bow LMAO no light
are u serious LMAO ROFL this is just EPIC Fail from the begging sorry
but thats the truth mag attack increase increase speed
speed walk parry ratio buff+ passive is way more important than u think

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i am a pure str build and yeah i am not upping light leaving it at 70 its just not worth it to up it anymore


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90 is going to bring Division for Force so my advice would be

Force: 90
Pacheon: 90
Fire: 88
Lightning: 32 (lowest ghost walk should be a must!)


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