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 Post subject: 1H sword and Axe is gay
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:29 pm 
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They have skill that have down attack increase but they dont have KD skill lol

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you really had to make a new thread about this?


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kd with your 2 hand, then swap to another weap? :?

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When a noob 2handed knocks a mob down in 8/8 partys? :?

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use 2h sword's kd

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Jantje wrote:
When a noob 2handed knocks a mob down in 8/8 partys? :?


I love doing that to KSers :D

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 Post subject: Re: 1H sword and Axe is gay
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NuclearSilo wrote:
They have skill that have down attack increase but they dont have KD skill lol

but they have stun and push back.

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raysisfenix wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
They have skill that have down attack increase but they dont have KD skill lol

but they have stun and push back.

All warriors got KB and stun... Sprint Assault.

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BakaFish wrote:
raysisfenix wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
They have skill that have down attack increase but they dont have KD skill lol

but they have stun and push back.

All warriors got KB and stun... Sprint Assault.


oh yeah...

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dagger hv down attck increase too but no KD
so dagger is gay too :? :?

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NuclearSilo wrote:
They have skill that have down attack increase but they dont have KD skill lol


thats why 2hand is under warrior.

take out 2h sword and use knock down.

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yes lets keep on commenting this thread :roll:

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the description of one of the rogues skills, Screw I think, implies that it's a KD skill but instead of KD, it's stun, so maybe Joymax changed it at the last moment, figuring ppl would be even more pissed warrors and d.rogues were knocking down mobs like bowling pins

(Screw- Is about approaching an enemy with a dagger, twisting your hand and thrusting into him. An enemy failing to endure the impact gets knocked down)

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At least each type has to have a KD skill. Otherwise, in pvp, if u are a 1H sword, u are going to swith to 2H sword then switch back or what?
Most 1H sword skill is down attack increase

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ye i never saw the purpose in doing that without a Kd skill

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NuclearSilo wrote:
At least each type has to have a KD skill. Otherwise, in pvp, if u are a 1H sword, u are going to swith to 2H sword then switch back or what?
Most 1H sword skill is down attack increase

ofc >.>

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Euros = party based. IOW, 1h and axe warriors can become more effective/still be effective when a target is knocked down. Euros work together remember? This is why screens, str and int, screen mask, etc aren't worthless neither. They might not benefit you directly [as being the one giving the aforementioned buffs], but they still are 'useful' in the end.

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Shouldnt this be under Characters Skills? I think it should XD


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Nyahgis wrote:
Euros = party based. IOW, 1h and axe warriors can become more effective/still be effective when a target is knocked down. Euros work together remember? This is why screens, str and int, screen mask, etc aren't worthless neither. They might not benefit you directly [as being the one giving the aforementioned buffs], but they still are 'useful' in the end.


but look at the Rogue screw attack description:

Is about approaching an enemy with a dagger, twisting your hand and thrusting into him. An enemy failing to endure the impact gets knocked down

yet it stuns, not KD's

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Niani wrote:
Nyahgis wrote:
Euros = party based. IOW, 1h and axe warriors can become more effective/still be effective when a target is knocked down. Euros work together remember? This is why screens, str and int, screen mask, etc aren't worthless neither. They might not benefit you directly [as being the one giving the aforementioned buffs], but they still are 'useful' in the end.


but look at the Rogue screw attack description:

Is about approaching an enemy with a dagger, twisting your hand and thrusting into him. An enemy failing to endure the impact gets knocked down

yet it stuns, not KD's


That's JM just being screwy [yay for puns] with their translations.

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.....Why would you waste the time weapon switching just for the down atk dmg increase when a 2h warrior has more dmg than axes in the first place, so if you kd, you might as well use the 2h warrior skill before you switch. It's not so you cna KD with another weapon, it's because of parties and support, so warriors and rogues can help each other kill an enemy since the rogue can kd from far away, and the warrior will be tanking close range so they need to atk instead of standing there.

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.....Why would you waste the time weapon switching just for the down atk dmg increase when a 2h warrior has more dmg than axes in the first place, so if you kd, you might as well use the 2h warrior skill before you switch. It's not so you cna KD with another weapon, it's because of parties and support, so warriors and rogues can help each other kill an enemy since the rogue can kd from far away, and the warrior will be tanking close range so they need to atk instead of standing there.


Because the 1H Swords Cunning Stab outdamages 2H swords on Knockdowned enemies due to the increase of damage with Dull status and the fact its 4 hits at 90%, and im aware 2h Sword has increase with dull status but I have noticed it does nowhere near as much damage as Dull + Cunning Stab.

Cunning Stab (4 Hits) on Lv 80: 5200>2500>3000>6000
Triple Swing (3 Hits) on Lv 80: 5000>3000>4000
I was also suprised, it seems that 2H swords have everything against them.

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You need to use 2hs 's knockdown, then use your primary weapon 's skill. That is why 2hs 's knockdown only needs level 2 2hs mastery in order to max.

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