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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:02 pm 
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I agree with you that Euros should only be able to have 1 class.

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:49 pm 
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Why? You cant just agree and not give support/facts to back up why.

I disagree and heres why:

1st off euros are a supposed to be a team/strategy based race. The ability to multi class allows them to further this team based play by, for example, allowing a warrior to also be a buffer/cleric.

There are other reasons that at this time i cant remember LOL (dam u writers block)

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 1:26 am 
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Rogue aint meant to solo..

This made me laugh... Man what are you talking? Best euro for solo is rogue, far the best. You dont know to play your rogue right..

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:11 am 
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chinese werent meant to solo either...

chinese werent meant to have more than 2 masteries

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:16 am 
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Silkroad was meant to be played. People will play it however they want...

Anyway, the pot delay is what makes Euros Euros and not overpowered Chinese players. I do feel that 30 seconds is a little too much though unless you have Recovery Division and IMO 15 seconds makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:42 am 
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chesticles wrote:
Why? You cant just agree and not give support/facts to back up why.

I disagree and heres why:

1st off euros are a supposed to be a team/strategy based race. The ability to multi class allows them to further this team based play by, for example, allowing a warrior to also be a buffer/cleric.

There are other reasons that at this time i cant remember LOL (dam u writers block)



No there not think about it. Buffer/Cleric is supposed to be int. A warrior is str. Its supposed to tank and tank only. Bards and Clerics are supposed to cleric/buff. Get it?

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:21 am 
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nohunta wrote:
chesticles wrote:
Why? You cant just agree and not give support/facts to back up why.

I disagree and heres why:

1st off euros are a supposed to be a team/strategy based race. The ability to multi class allows them to further this team based play by, for example, allowing a warrior to also be a buffer/cleric.

There are other reasons that at this time i cant remember LOL (dam u writers block)



No there not think about it. Buffer/Cleric is supposed to be int. A warrior is str. Its supposed to tank and tank only. Bards and Clerics are supposed to cleric/buff. Get it?


Wrong.. Clerics can be pure str, however they cannot keep a constant heal. It isn't as efficient as an int healing, but healing orbit can be casted and stayed on by a pure str character. They can throw in a better heal every now and then, but yeah.. mp will run out. Unless in robe.. I guess.

Same shit with a pure str bard. They can play 2 tambours and play mana orbit(Only if they have close to max int/mp on gear. Since the mp reduce passive is bullshit). They can continue to play mana wind and any other shit and still be full of mp by the 15 seconds to recast. (Yes it is possible. I have bard quite maxed out and I do this shit all the time)

As a warrior supposed to be the 'tanker' that bullshit. I was grinding in a party with 5 wizards, cleric, and 2 warriors back when 90s started to appear all over. I didn't play a tank. I never was a 'tank'. Both warriors had to keep running, because we ran out of mobs.

Keep this in mind.. Warlocks, clerics, and bards have a LOT of skills that are based of purely off the weapon and not your build. Ex- Healing. That is purely off your weapon and same with healing mana. Stealing hp.. based off warlock rod.

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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I just can't get use to the pot delay but euros do quiet well on 1/1 because of the grains/vigor usage and skills like bless/skins but they clearly can't multiple enemies without this skills...but same thing can be said about nukers with max snow...well I'm pleased with my glavier...rape every euro 1v1 the majority of times with the exception of warlocks and some sun weapon users, really depends on how lucky I'm with warlocks and the timing of pills or I can just use my euro and cast holy word on myself :P...but I don't cuz they would b**h about it or not pvp.

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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seana49 wrote:
on vietnam srvers (SROvn) euros have no pot delay. cSRO and kSRO are similar to iSRO in this regard, as long as i know.

lol
i guess all ppl on ur sronv is wizzard
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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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BloodyBlade wrote:
Rogue aint meant to solo..

This made me laugh... Man what are you talking? Best euro for solo is rogue, far the best. You dont know to play your rogue right..

I do.
rogues need to lure, thats it, if you have a well organized euro party you wont find anymore mobs, thats when the rogue comes in;

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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^ if you grind till lvl 40 in a euro party, you'll never be short of monsters in Samarkand.

The spawn rate is just too high

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
^ if you grind till lvl 40 in a euro party, you'll never be short of monsters in Samarkand.

The spawn rate is just too high

After lv40 maybe..

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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seana49 wrote:
on vietnam srvers (SROvn) euros have no pot delay. cSRO and kSRO are similar to iSRO in this regard, as long as i know.


lol that will be scary with no pot delay

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:20 am 
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BladeSkillz wrote:
I agree with you that Euros should only be able to have 1 class.


Even better.. let them have 2 masteries, but make the efficiency of the buffs based on your phy/mag balance (so like a pure str cleric can give a much weaker bless/str, int buffs and so on). Then a warrior/cleric won't have 3 godmode buttons (a.k.a skins & bless), and a warrior/warlock won't be able to debuff the sh*t out of you and then 1-hit you... Problem solved 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:20 am 
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Cavalier wrote:
seana49 wrote:
on vietnam srvers (SROvn) euros have no pot delay. cSRO and kSRO are similar to iSRO in this regard, as long as i know.


lol that will be scary with no pot delay

by my memory after watching vn's pvp video, he bullshitted.

f~uck u 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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/\ Possible they were using grains when he saw them, in which case its an easily forgivable mistake, since 1.5 seconds and 5 seconds arnt that big a diffrence.

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:31 pm 
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Wrong.. Clerics can be pure str, however they cannot keep a constant heal. It isn't as efficient as an int healing, but healing orbit can be casted and stayed on by a pure str character. They can throw in a better heal every now and then, but yeah.. mp will run out. Unless in robe.. I guess.

Same shit with a pure str bard. They can play 2 tambours and play mana orbit(Only if they have close to max int/mp on gear. Since the mp reduce passive is bullshit). They can continue to play mana wind and any other shit and still be full of mp by the 15 seconds to recast. (Yes it is possible. I have bard quite maxed out and I do this shit all the time)

As a warrior supposed to be the 'tanker' that bullshit. I was grinding in a party with 5 wizards, cleric, and 2 warriors back when 90s started to appear all over. I didn't play a tank. I never was a 'tank'. Both warriors had to keep running, because we ran out of mobs.

Keep this in mind.. Warlocks, clerics, and bards have a LOT of skills that are based of purely off the weapon and not your build. Ex- Healing. That is purely off your weapon and same with healing mana. Stealing hp.. based off warlock rod.


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Wow. If you think a warrior isnt supposed to tank please explain to me why the **** they have all these Farking taunt skills. Please explain to me why the **** they have all these skins to help TANK Farking mobs. Euros have one stat based weapon for a reason. They have str only weapons for a REASON. They have int only weapons for a REASON. Your missing the entire point of party play. They are not supposed to have 2 masterys, thats why they have such a high pot delay. Think about what you said "not as efficient healing" think about what the hell you said. CLERICS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EFFICIENT HEALERS!

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 Post subject: Re: Euro Pot Delay
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Face palm for me? Mmm.. I was replying to a sub build. If you didn't notice that then you're a dumbass about not efficient clerics and bards.

As for the warrior part.. read what I said. I didn't need to play a tank. We kept running out of mobs and both warriors had to keep running to get mobs. I doubt you're 80+ and even experienced this.

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