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For or against anti-ksing option.
good idea. 62%  62%  [ 58 ]
bad idea. 38%  38%  [ 35 ]
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:58 am 
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I don't like it. Some builds are meant to ks. Hence int builds always lvled up faster. Luring mobs to kill bots would be harder since the bots would have to want to help you >_>. I dunno. I think it's good the way it is. If you keep getting ks-ed, move on. Everyone has plenty of grind spots except penons and ongs, and even than it opens up pretty often.

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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Vote Yes
But NOT FOR UNIQUES and Giants
cuz it will be so gay if u are the only 1 attacking the unique and others cant....

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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hmm i can't imagine any int build voting yes and any str build voting no ^_^

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maybe they can use Deco's system.
After a certain amount of dmg has been done, anyone else who attacks the mob gets nothing and only helps the person who they were trying to KS

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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2 year old thread :?

and I vote no it's fun 2 ks people I don't like

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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all you would have to do is have a help option to click on
clicking on it would put a siganl above your head like that annoying orange ? above your head, and would allow anyone to attack the mob you are attacking

as for those who can handle more mobs they could have a limit of say 4 or so while solo and maybe unlimited while in a party is present (within a certain range)

uniques would be immune to the need, or it could come into effect if someone does like 10 hits to it without anyone else doing any

also if you die or go out of range of the mob or say 3 or 4 seconds go by without you attacking then the mob becomes available to someone else to attack

im sorry if someone else had these ideas in this post, (i didnt read them first before posting, lol)
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Overall I think this could be a good idea, but realistically it won't be good.

As has said, someone could just go around hitting random enemies not allowing others to attack them or herd them up for himself.

And what if you're in an aggressive area trying to run away, and you have about 10 monsters on you that no one can kill to get them off.

The only way to fix that would be to make it that you can only attack or be attacked by one monster at a time.

But then that cancels out the advantage str have of being able to take on many enemies at once without dying.


Also what would happen at boss fights? Regardless of the above being implemented to fix some of gthose problems. With that timer, only one person will be able to fight the main boss. Only one person will be able to fight off each spawn. I could see the fight lasting ages and be extremely long and boring as each monster/player attacks one of the opposite.

There are other obvious flaws, but I've wasted too much time on the forum today and I really need to start playing sro. :banghead:



I do agree though the ksing is really annoying, especially when someone is doing it on purpose.


INTs have that too

i can tank more than 90 glaviers at rocky

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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Current system
1-players ks me
2-i pm the player & other players around us
3-no one responds (they all bot)
4-i pk the ks'ing player
5-problem solved

Why would anyone want to change that ??

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Ash wrote:
Current system
1-players ks me
2-i pm the player & other players around us
3-no one responds (they all bot)
4-i pk the ks'ing player
5-problem solved

Why would anyone want to change that ??


Because people don't want to be bothered with trying to get rid of their murder status. You're still getting penalized as it is, trying to avoid getting killed by someone and dropping your gear before getting back to town or grinding off your murder.

Alternatively, they could keep it as it is and change the PK system instead.


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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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Simple: new PK system will get rid of all AoE bot kser

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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It wouldn't work on SRO

Besides I love ksing everyone :D


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Simple: new PK system will get rid of all AoE bot kser

A pk system like Mu-Online:

- You kill a person you become "warned" (you cant be killed like a PK can) for 3 hours (time reduces as you kill mobs / gain exp)
- You kill one more while in "warned" and you become murderer

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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JoyFax wrote:
It wouldn't work on SRO

Besides I love ksing everyone :D


NuclearSilo wrote:
Simple: new PK system will get rid of all AoE bot kser

A pk system like Mu-Online:

- You kill a person you become "warned" (you cant be killed like a PK can) for 3 hours (time reduces as you kill mobs / gain exp)
- You kill one more while in "warned" and you become murderer


that sounds like a great idea actually

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wont work for sro... ppl are killing mobs in 1 or 2 hits anyway so that would make it a race and the one with the fastest attacks (wizard..) would get the kill after all

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 Post subject: Re: NEW IDEA!!!
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Aiyas wrote:
Ash wrote:
Current system
1-players ks me
2-i pm the player & other players around us
3-no one responds (they all bot)
4-i pk the ks'ing player
5-problem solved

Why would anyone want to change that ??


Because people don't want to be bothered with trying to get rid of their murder status. You're still getting penalized as it is, trying to avoid getting killed by someone and dropping your gear before getting back to town or grinding off your murder.

Alternatively, they could keep it as it is and change the PK system instead.


Trust me you can grind your murder status in less than 20 minutes when grinding at mobs your level .

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Ask each time if they allow u to ks him?
That would be annoying.

I'd preffer, the first who get the target, anyone cant ks it.

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nohunta wrote:
In rs its like This:

If your attacking a mob in single way:No one can attack it except you AND you can attack nothing else.


never play RS..but with this system i'm guessing there are no aggro mobs...cuz..if..u can atk. only one mob..that means nothing can aggro u cuz u would get raped..since u would be atk. by other mobs and u can only atk.

regardless too damm restricting

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Ragnorak wrote:
nohunta wrote:
In rs its like This:

If your attacking a mob in single way:No one can attack it except you AND you can attack nothing else.


never play RS..but with this system i'm guessing there are no aggro mobs...cuz..if..u can atk. only one mob..that means nothing can aggro u cuz u would get raped..since u would be atk. by other mobs and u can only atk.

regardless too damm restricting


Old thread :O

This is one of my first posts, but i am not new to silkroad

On topic:

I don't really like this idea, ksing is just a part of silkroad online, all nukers like it :D
and bladers hate it, nothing to do about it :roll:


Off topic: Ragnarok i send you a pm :D

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Or they could try to do something similar like the Tag System from WoW. As far as I know, you tag a mob as soon as you damage it and people who are not in your party are able to damage and kill it but they have no access towards the EXP and loot. People or bots would definitely stop KSing since he or she is still able to damage the mob while not getting anything from it, meaning wasting your own time for other people's gain.

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Or they could try to do something similar like the Tag System from WoW. As far as I know, you tag a mob as soon as you damage it and people who are not in your party are able to damage and kill it but they have no access towards the EXP and loot. People or bots would definitely stop KSing since he or she is still able to damage the mob while not getting anything from it, meaning wasting your own time for other people's gain.


nukers would then become the slowest grinders in the game :roll:


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bakafish wrote:
Or they could try to do something similar like the Tag System from WoW. As far as I know, you tag a mob as soon as you damage it and people who are not in your party are able to damage and kill it but they have no access towards the EXP and loot. People or bots would definitely stop KSing since he or she is still able to damage the mob while not getting anything from it, meaning wasting your own time for other people's gain.


nukers would then become the slowest grinders in the game :roll:

Not like kill stealing is ethically right to start with.

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bakafish wrote:
Bop wrote:
bakafish wrote:
Or they could try to do something similar like the Tag System from WoW. As far as I know, you tag a mob as soon as you damage it and people who are not in your party are able to damage and kill it but they have no access towards the EXP and loot. People or bots would definitely stop KSing since he or she is still able to damage the mob while not getting anything from it, meaning wasting your own time for other people's gain.


nukers would then become the slowest grinders in the game :roll:

Not like kill stealing is ethically right to start with.


i enjoy ksing. period. the only ones that get mad are those that are botting...and i dont get a response back..since they are botting...


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Ash wrote:
Aiyas wrote:
Ash wrote:
Current system
1-players ks me
2-i pm the player & other players around us
3-no one responds (they all bot)
4-i pk the ks'ing player
5-problem solved

Why would anyone want to change that ??


Because people don't want to be bothered with trying to get rid of their murder status. You're still getting penalized as it is, trying to avoid getting killed by someone and dropping your gear before getting back to town or grinding off your murder.

Alternatively, they could keep it as it is and change the PK system instead.


Trust me you can grind your murder status in less than 20 minutes when grinding at mobs your level .


Oh I've done it plenty of times myself. Still is a pain in the ass.


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I still suport this 120% although i ks :love:

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no KS for normal mobs.
free for all for giants and uniques.

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this is a bad idea one good thing about SRO is that it has that "do whatever you feel like" feel to it and if this was implemented it would feel confined

and yes I know its ancient :P

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but wat bout party play....
this could get pretty annoyin. For every party mob u hab to click 7 yeses..

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who the F revived this thread, please dont post in old threads its kinda annoying.

anyway its a bad idea.

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In most games this would work well, but i think unless it was almost perfectly built, it wouldnt work in SRO. Lots of people encounter giants and can't handle them, it is common for people to help others on mobs such as these or any mob a player cant handle :)


Simple solution: Only allow anti-ks feature on general mobs, maybe champions. Maybe go a step further and only allow anti-ks on mobs within a certain level range of yourself (3 below 8 above?). Basically you can only "claim" general mobs for yourself that you can actually solo kill. Can't claim giants or "too high" or "too low" level mobs.

Edit: meh, didn't realize this is an old thread. I don't remember seeing it before.

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see i knew this topic will roll and i like the idea of not being ksed by lvl 64 warriors on muiji

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