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guess its time to give wow another chance (did not like my first try, played it couple hours then removed it after it lol)

Just from what ive seen so far, npc thieves are uber strong now, lol, so you can think of it as a helping hand for the thieves, but since they can now be 'popped' by their own multistars, we will have to wait and see.

Which part of the sig?



And people... wake up and small the coffee. Everything Joymax does is about making money. The reason Joymax made the grinding excruciatingly long and painful is so they can make big bucks off of gold tickets, premium tickets, monkeys, squirrels, pets, reverse returns, instant return scrolls, rez scrolls, etc. If they make the grinding short like a P2P game, then they wouldn't be making any money now would they? Because once people reach the cap they will stop buying monkeys and tickets.

For an MMORPG game... there are mainly two money making models:

1) Make a game with a monthly subscription fees where your main priority is the number of subscribers. The only variable that affects your profit is the number of subscribers. As a result of this, the company aims to provide great customer support, GM interaction, lots of fun quests, short grinding time so customers wouldn't get sick and cancel their account, regular events, great service, servers in different in different countries for less lag, regular updates to keep customers, hired competent employees, internally test their updates before releasing it, and give free blowjobs.

2) Free-2-Play game. Use the "Free" excuse as a reason to sit on their ass doing nothing, provide no customer support (go complain in their official forum and watch morningdew says something like "this is a Free game, we don't have to provide you with anything"), crowded server, laggy ass servers, rarely any events, boring quests where you kill the same monster 10,000 times, make the grinding so long and boring so that you will have to kill a 1,000,000 monsters just to level up and you get shitty drop rates. Then declare war against bots when it's a direct result of their greed for money that produced an exponential growth of bots. Because this is a "free" game, Joymax looks at every problems as a opportunity to make money. Takes too long to level up? Buy a gold ticket (or bot and join the majority). Crowded servers and can't get in? Simple, buy a premium ticket! You guys can't blame Joymax at all... this is very good business for them. If you were an executive running Joymax and have to answer to your shareholders ("WTF, why aren't you making us investors more money?"), yall would be looking at everything with a mindset of making money. The more money you make for your company u running, the more money you take home as part of your compensation package.

Joymax can make a whole lot more money from one person in this game than WoW can make from a fixed subscription fee.

Here's how:

WoW: fixed $14? subscription fee = Final cost: $14

Silkroad: (1) Premium Ticket + (1) initial cost of monkey monkey + reincarnation clock + (7) stacks reverse scrolls to get back to your training place faster + (6) stacks rez scrolls cause you suck so much and get pwn so many times by everyone + (60) stacks of globals for talking shit in the game + (40) Immortals + (60) Astrals to make ultra 1337 +7 weapons/gears to try to pwn everyone + (3) Skil reallocation potions cause SPs is so hard to get and u put points into wrong place + (1) Skin change scroll cause you prefer to be female to trick the guys into thinking ur a chick + (6) stacks damage increase scrolls to try to pwn D2A + (6) stacks dmg resistance scroll to take less dmg cuz your plain jane NPC gears sux....etc... Final cost: $700+/month?

You get the point...

@EllisD, Harmony Circle + thief spawning 25 NPC thieves at the ferry == lots of dead traders. Guess I won't be coming back to iSRO after all.

@borat, I hated "other game" at first too, I couldn't get the controls at first (though I found they have an option to click to move like SRO), but by the second day playing it I got out of the newb town area and the game opened up like crazy, and I was hooked. Main thing that did it for me, though, was the fact that gold/bot sellers had to PM me to advertise, which I can just /ignore them. Then I went back to iSRO and I see globals from gold and bot sellers, and the char redbro standing in middle of Hotan, script-flooding the general chat with his advertisements, and I have no way to ignore. They've been there for MONTHS, the globaller is the same char that globalled the same thing when I started iSRO 4 months ago. I then got really bored in iSRO, since the only thing to do was grind, I grind on red mobs and get 0.02% exp. That is just insane. Then all of the flaws start jumping out at you, like how they completely nerfed healers by having pots with a 2s cooldown, ressers are not needed, hell parties aren't needed except to get that tiny bit of extra exp. Trade system is broken and completely not fun. Everywhere you go you find bots killing your mobs, taking your drops. I gave away my stuff after that.

Then in my first day in "other game" I have a problem with trading goods to another player, I file a support ticket and within 30 min a GM contacts me, tells me what is wrong and how to fix it, and says thanks! Now THAT is how I want to be treated as a paying customer. I bought silk every month I played SRO, and I got NOTHING in return.

So try it out for a week, if you still don't like it then it isn't for you.

The only people making any sense in this topic, are browntyger (**** the caps in your name >_<), nightbloom, and Ryoko. Good man Ryoko, you left earlier, and everyone else should have followed suit.

Ah yes. Lots of the s\s ive seen so far it has been capped thieves that have done it, so capped thieves spawn 79+ thieves so harmony circle is useless.

But yea, for the lower level thieves doing it......bring on the hunters

Doesn't really matter, because of the broken targetting priority system NPC thieves spawned from player thieves target any traders first. When I read "job update" I got my hopes up that they fixed it and I would come back to SRO and job with my friends. Turns out, instead of fixing the broken system, they made it WORSE.

@MrJoey, thanks man. I'm happy to post nonsense.

thanks jaja
well currently downloading the trial again lets hope it will last longer on my hard drive this time

If you are spending 700 bucks a month on SRO then u are either filthy rich or have an issue with spending money in intervals.

WoW is $15 bucks a month on average and then theres the $20 for the game and then $40 for the update.

Then another $50-40 every year for a new update.

Then another $25 everytime u switch servers.


So technically u end up spending (IF you are a dedicated WoW player)

$240 -300 bucks the first year on WoW. Then about $200 a year after that.

On Average in SRO you play for free. So this kills WoW's free trial by 100%.

You can start up your old accounts, for free and start as many new ones as u want (If you have the IPs) when u want.

So this is a nice advantage, always nice to take a break and come back for free before paying.

Then in SRO the main thing u buy is GT and Pet.

This is Normally $18 a month. If u get Premium its $25 a month.

No charge for updates, no charge a month, no charge for account activation, ever.

When you pay for these monthly items though. there is no catch, it wont be a recurring fee, unlike WoW where its easier to get hooked and harder to leave.

And then besides these monthly fees theres small items in item mall u want to buy which can add up to about $10-$50 a month on average.

and u may or may not buy silk monthly ur entire SRO life. Meaning u could buy Silk for a while ur consecutvely and then spend nothing for 3 months and start buying silk again, but ur price will always go up and down.

WoW is consistent and will always drain ur money when u play.

WoW = money drainage guranteed, SRO = upset customers, good times, and money balance.

SRO cost about $216-300 a year and then it goes down after that (Assuming u grind well in a years worth of time).

WoW will not go down, it keeps on going forever.

So assume this you pay about $18 a month (Skip 2 months) and hit 80 in 9months. You use the Preminum ticket for 3months after that to farm and then spam another bit of silk for small items in between.

Technically SRO can be more expensive or less expensive, but with benefits.

WoW stops u from playing until u pay, new update, pay.

Bam, Bam.

End Result - SRO payments own WoW if you are a consistent and focused gamer.

WoW payments kill consistent and dedicate gamers till there poor.

-end of story.

Wrong.

First purchase of WoW: $20. This includes your first month payment.
Every month after that: $15 per month
IF you decide you want the expansion, you don't need it to use 90% of the game content, is $40 one time, and you again get that month free.

But now lets talk about your math. WoW was released in 2004. It is now 2007. There has been one expansion. So WHERE do you get you have to pay an extra $50 per year? You have no idea what you are talking about.

EDIT:

Now, Paid char transfer. Your info is false there also. For one, you have NO option to move your char from one server to another in SRO. It does not exist. Second, when they open a new server, they offer for free character moving, to help populate and balance out the server. When has that ever happened in SRO? For $25 you have the option of moving to a server if you want to.

WOW also has the following:

GMs, customer service, working updates, uncrowded servers to move into, security, few bots, quests, maps, content, and the list goes on and on and on.....

and if u'r not careful, u lose the following:

gf/bf
job
good grades
love of outside activities

You mean with SRO or WoW or any online game if you have an addictive personality? Personally I have no troubles playing games when I have the time to, and handling the rest of my life when I need to. I still have a life. Not everyone gets "addicted", just like gambling or drinking.

well no shit not every1 get's addicted.

This is kinda sad lol
Guess not all of us are able to express our ideas correctly... or maybe we are just dumb people trying to look smart hehe

I don't have a credit card, I have NO way of buying silk, if I could, I would, but I can't.

Your statement, being made in such a way to imply it as an addendum to NB's, is that only WoW has the problem with addiction, which I was merely pointing out was just as applicable to SRO.

u assumed that i meant only WoW had that problem, but alas, that's not the case young one.

That assumption was based upon the way you worded it, which was as an addendum to NB's post. You made the implication, to cause the reader to make such an assumption.

Just like how you added "young one" to your post there to imply I am somehow inferior to you, since you don't know my age you cannot be meaning it literally. If you didn't mean to make this implication, you should go back to college and take some English courses to fix your spelling, grammar, and sentence composition problem.

I second that statement

OT: Ya I would have to agree with NB on this as well <.< JM is just doing what they can to make more money and exploit the SRO economy. If they really and truley wanted to fix the problems in SRO they would implement a MAC / IP address ban system. And before all you "wannabe networker eggheads" say anything like OMG WTF BBQHAX they can change their IP/MAC address. Yes you can. Now while you can change it 90% of the SRO populace isnt computer savy enough to do so. Also you can only change your IP so many times. Also some ISP's will not change your IP address. Now if they implemented a MAC address ban system then you would be screwed. As your operating system relyies on the MAC address of your CPU and Motherboard to operate, if you try to "spoof" these your OS will stop working. So this would really solve things. But alas JM will never implement this.

Anyways I am sure that in the next few posts there will be morons that try to say I dont know what I am talking about. Which I will then say to them: "I go to a computer tech college. I am paying to get a degree in computer networking. So I think I know what I am talking about."

u'r assuming that i haven't been taught enough proper english, but alas, that's not the case, inferior one.

Im confused about the ticket...will it kick other non silk buyers for a silk user to get in?

If you wanna go play WoW, please go.

Just dont make a rant 1000X about how wow > sro.

Your logic is flawed. You made a statement, in such a way that implied something, which I pointed out, which you then state isn't your intent. When I point out that your statement was contrary, you imply first that I was wrong in making the assumption (which you haven't yet given any reason backing up why I was wrong), then insult me. Now you are saying you know what you were saying all along, and AGAIN insult me? You can try insulting me all you want, but you just make yourself look dumber in the process.

This is totally OT now. Back to the thread, I'm not going to debate details like this in someone else's thread any further, especially when you can't defend yourself.

sorry, i just can't defend myself against such an inferior being.

Ad Hominem.

Look it up.

This thread is about discussing how much people dislike the current state of SRO, and specifically the changes. I think it is valid to reference another online game to discuss the shortcomings of SRO. This entire thread is a discussion of the changes made to the game, and I fail to see how it is invalid on this forum.

Also note that I never named that game, not until someone posted what was a flawed comparison to the cost of it compared to SRO.

OK let's not let this degenerate into the a discussion about grammar. Yes TOloseGT was being insulting and you got the hint. lol Who cares, not everyone is gonna see eye to eye, right? 99% of the SRO population isnt smart enough to get past, "OOOh a NEW ITEM!! GIMME GIMME!"

That is the basis of JMs business plan. lol

JoyMax: banking on stupidity

have u thought about it this way:

cost of sro: $0

cost of WoW: what jaja said.

And why wouldn't people complain? We've been whining about SRO for as long as at least I can remember. It's a habit.