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 Post subject: Stopping CCF....easy?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:50 am 
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I'm sure someone has thought of this before, I thought of it a few months back but never ended up posting it. So tell me what you guys think.

Level 1 - 8 characters can only use level 1 and can NOT use astral level 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Level 9 - 15 can only use level 1 and 2.
Level 16 - 23 can only use level 1, 2, and 3.
Level 24 - 31 can only use level 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Level 32 - 41 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Level 42 - 51 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Level 52 - 63 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
Level 64 - 75 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
And so on as cap is raised.

Wouldn't this stop 90% - 95% of all CCF since people wouldn't want to CCF and lose a high level account? I mean, why else would a level 1 need 100 x level 8 astrals. :D


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Email Joymax with your ideas, nothing you do here will ever make a diffrence probly.


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One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


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You dont think that happens? Im sure Joymax gets hundreds of emails each day, but botters make up alot of the money they get. There never gonna ban all botters, and if they do the games gonna be p2p.


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AllEyezOnMe wrote:
One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.

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cuchulainn wrote:
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One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.


Are you an SA or something? (wow I totally forgot about SAs lol)

How would you talk to Gargamel? :?


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AllEyezOnMe wrote:
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One person emailing doesn't help. If maybe a few hundred people send this to 'em 2 or 3 times then it might work. Still, a very small chance of JoyMax listening to us (unless they browse these forums).


I'll see if I can talk to Gargamel about it.

And btw, Crayon reads these forums at least every now and then.


Are you an SA or something? (wow I totally forgot about SAs lol)

How would you talk to Gargamel? :?


Not an SA. Gargamel was the person in charge of the iSRO contestants for GNGWC.

<-- Won GNGWC

So I can contact him if necessary.

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I do know you won GNGWC. But did Gargamel give you his phone number or something? :D


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AllEyezOnMe wrote:
I do know you won GNGWC. But did Gargamel give you his phone number or something? :D


I had to have some way of contacting him before the competition with questions and concerns.

Email has been sent to Gargamel, though I can't guarantee anything will come out of it, so don't hold your breath.

I'd suggest, you have to be no more than 1 degree away from it to use it. AKA a 52+ can do work on their 64 weapons before they get to 64.

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Yeah thats better. Because if you wanna have a nice 42 weapon you can start pimping it before youre going to use it. Else you use a unpimped weapon in your first 42 days. :P

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he he he...if Gargamel's or any GM's email-address would leak he'd get spammed 24/7 :D :) 8) :roll:

I can already imagine Chaby's email :roll:

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Jeronimo wrote:
he he he...if Gargamel's or any GM's email-address would leak he'd get spammed 24/7 :D :) 8) :roll:

I can already imagine Chaby's email :roll:


That's why I'm not giving it to anyone, but it seems people are smart enough not to ask for it, lol.

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Another good way to stop CCF is for JoyMax and SRO GM's to look at omg, 5 brand new characters, with 500 silk on them, then omg, chargeback, did you know that PayPal keeps a log of IP addresses?; SRO GM's and/or JoyMax could just get the IP from PayPal, if it's proxied, then well, have the IP traced by the FBI, like I do with all the scammers and hackers, anyway, just my 2 cents.

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YanWangTsu wrote:
Another good way to stop CCF is for JoyMax and SRO GM's to look at omg, 5 brand new characters, with 500 silk on them, then omg, chargeback, did you know that PayPal keeps a log of IP addresses?; SRO GM's and/or JoyMax could just get the IP from PayPal, if it's proxied, then well, have the IP traced by the FBI, like I do with all the scammers and hackers, anyway, just my 2 cents.


I promise you, if I CCFed I could make it untracable. :wink:


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Heres an idea......no CCs :!:


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verry good ideea i alredy reported to 'bug report' i hope gm will read and aply it

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wats ccf?u

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ccf= credit card fraud for the 54865997698th time...
well, apparantly JM still get their money if the ccfer used mastercard, coz mastercard doesn't give a dam and just pays JM but pays back the customer their money (which is covered by the card insurance), and i wouldn't suprise me if it was the same with VISA

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Level 1 - 8 characters can only use level 1, 2 and can NOT use astral level 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Level 9 - 15 can only use level 1, 2, and 3.
Level 16 - 23 can only use level 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Level 24 - 31 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5.
Level 32 - 41 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.
Level 42 - 51 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7.
Level 52 - 63 can only use level 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.
Level 64 - 75 same as above
And so on as cap is raised.

this will work better for those who like tryin toO +5 there items before they reach the next degree...


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Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.

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THEN JoyMax should maybe THINK about their REAL players before ..... MONEY ...


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Bake has said that capping the astrals by level has been talked about a bunch in the SA forum.

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Chaby wrote:
Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.


umm how do they get money from it? i mean dont those guys just do chargeback?

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Suppaman wrote:
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Wont happen. JoyMax gets money from CCF. So they wont stop it.


umm how do they get money from it? i mean dont those guys just do chargeback?

Some CC companies still pay JM, I think...

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^^lol really... wow....omg damn JM..

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<-- Won GNGWC

So I can contact him if necessary.[/quote]


Cuchu, i bet you'd be hired one day as one of the GMs when an office in California opens! :D

Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.

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Yeah, they could do it like how you can't use a transport if it's not your level.

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Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.
Think of how many Turks and Viets that will have heart attacks..

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|||-_-, i have bought things 2 degrees in advance..... this wud be problematic for me if the astrals were restricted to only the degree afterwards..... i have a hard time passing up deals ^^


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XxpeddyxX wrote:
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Btw, going back to topic, yep i thought of that idea too, put level restriction on astral users.
Think of how many Turks and Viets that will have heart attacks..


How many of them actually have +7 weapons? :roll:
Stop trying to blame on ethnic groups, the only thing you can do is say that a lot of Turks like to beg in SRO and I will agree. :oops: :D

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