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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:05 pm 
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What would you all think be the best pvp build out of chinese and euros?
I head wizzards can pretty much 1 hit about anything so would a wizzard be best pvp build now?


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What is the best type of pizza?

When you answer that questions with utmost certainty then you can answer your own question.

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If you mean it's w/e you like then not all true. I asked whats best pvp build like I may like chinese nuckers but they suck at pvp unless you have sun gear.


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No they don't, and except maybe 2 or 3 builds, it actually IS whatever you like. You can make a strategy to win with every build. Wizards are great, but so are rogues, warriors, warlocks and even clerics and bards. And nukers are actually really good at PvP, but so are glaviers and archers and at 100 cap, even bladers will be great at PvP. There is really no bad build and with equal equips they all have a chance to win in PvP.

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heck, a cleric can one hit you too.

rogue can one hit you...

I say just play each char, or watch videos, to see what char youd have more fun playing.

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Id say a hybrid int, s/s with 81% mag, with Ice,Light,Fire(imbue), yull be able to take quite abit of damage with block, and with Knock Down, u can repot to full hp, ur damage will be quite high, this is what i think.

Im going hybrid int 83%, spear, Ice, Light(imbue), with some becheon for knock down :D


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I've actually seen a lvl 72 1h warrior crit for 12k with +7 sword on a pure str sun garment level 80.
So they can also 1 hit you with a nice crit.
So can warlocks after debuffs, they just finish it with a weak flower nuke.
Bards can only 1h INT, but they can do a good 12-15k with 1 nuke at level 80, that casts faster than regular nukes and is AoE, so maybe 2-3 hits for a KO on str.

From the Chinese, maybe archers can 1 hit a nuker, maybe a glavier with a nice hard crit, but none of them can 1 hit a pure STR without sun weapons, and even then it's a stretch.

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Id say a hybrid int, s/s with 81% mag, with Ice,Light,Fire(imbue), yull be able to take quite abit of damage with block, and with Knock Down, u can repot to full hp, ur damage will be quite high, this is what i think.

Im going hybrid int 83%, spear, Ice, Light(imbue), with some becheon for knock down :D


too low damage


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But with my shield, and euros pot delay, if i phantom knock down, stab,stab, phantom back, nuke its over, probably even befor the nuke, and with my spear, its a little harder, but just as easy, stun, spin, nuke, pritty much done. Euros do hit hard, but with the chinese pot delay being 15x less, euros are guranteed to die at higher lvls, but i might be wrong.


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but avenger you wont kill chinese

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out of euros quite good is warrior(after playing some time tend to think s/s better than 2hs), being hunter you can survive easily your lvl rogues and wizards attack and finish them. Against chinese its also not that bad, for 45 secs while you buff lasts you can tank quite well, assuming you dont get chain of criticals on you. OR you can simply take rogue or wizard like most people, who can easily kill people with slow reaction or unprepared and it doesnt require any skills to do that. But s/s warrior is good

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pure str glavie w/fire :D

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TwIsTeD69 wrote:
If you mean it's w/e you like then not all true. I asked whats best pvp build like I may like chinese nuckers but they suck at pvp unless you have sun gear.


u mean what is the best chinese crackers... its almond crackers.

i changed from s/s sword to 2h sword because i find s/s is REAL HARD TO KILL MONSTER.and now im a 2h sword/cleric sub. FOR EUROPE CHARACTERS I FIND WARRIOR THE MOST AVERAGE CHARACTER. Comparing the damage and tankability.

Warrior is The best for europe TO ME.For Chinese ITS BLADER as i notice glavie does not have new book skill etc Skill Series,Chain series expect for those skill series there is no improvement shown.


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stop asking this kind of stuff...

if we count every topic asking the same we would never finish...

do what you think its the best for YOU thats why theres tons of different builds..

YOU chose from what ever YOU think its the best.

Every build can beat any build even if its int vs str...

well unless you have full sun then any build with that on can say his build is the best.

so just think about a few things.

-Your style of play.
You like getting up close and fight and last longer. Str builds.

You like to deal big dmg and kill fast. Int Builds.

or do a litle of both. then that would be hybrid for you.


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I think he just wants a cheese build that can kill people (majority of people) with little effort lol

eg. Ryu/Ken from Street Fighter if anyone still remembers...


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pure str glaive because it is ready to fight all the time. if an int doesnt have snow sheild on which is 3/4 of the time he is dead. plus he has fire buffs to see the rogues and the warlck cannot touch him with debuffs

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Gear>Build on SRO, you can be 241:101 and you'll still kill every other build with sun gear.

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criticalss wrote:
pure str glaive because it is ready to fight all the time. if an int doesnt have snow sheild on which is 3/4 of the time he is dead. plus he has fire buffs to see the rogues and the warlck cannot touch him with debuffs


How come str glaive is untouched by warlock debuffs? enlighten us please...


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pure str glaive because it is ready to fight all the time. if an int doesnt have snow sheild on which is 3/4 of the time he is dead. plus he has fire buffs to see the rogues and the warlck cannot touch him with debuffs


How come str glaive is untouched by warlock debuffs? enlighten us please...
the stealth/invisible skill is the proberly the most useless of the whole three

10m surounding lol

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kloudzen wrote:
criticalss wrote:
pure str glaive because it is ready to fight all the time. if an int doesnt have snow sheild on which is 3/4 of the time he is dead. plus he has fire buffs to see the rogues and the warlck cannot touch him with debuffs


How come str glaive is untouched by warlock debuffs? enlighten us please...
the stealth/invisible skill is the proberly the most useless of the whole three

10m surounding lol

Rogues always stay out of the 10M range.
They ain´t that stupid. :roll:

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Best for PvP? I think a well-played char with a bit of sun will always be the best, regardless of build. Look at Brue. He's probably the strongest guy on Pacific--STR hybrid.

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http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=767936#767936

read the part about chinese glaive

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because fire sheild ressists curses now

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Rouge ftw.

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pure str sword/shield lol, there is no best pvp build

evrybody just gonna say thier own build

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kk as you know the most famous saying which is "A good defence is a great offense" and the BLADER is the godliest in the defence with the new ice sheild, along with the new chain in bicheon which cauzes bleed, and i aint saying this cauze it's my own build, im saying this becauze i have tried all the builds that can pop up in ur head!

now you might say it depends on your equipment and bleh, imagine if you had full sun equipment all +5 so is your weapons and you are pure int spear for example, and you went into a fight with a blader who has the same kind of equipment, who would win do you think?

i know a million players that were able to kill a pure str blader... But you can never win a fully farmed expert blader, i have been playing for over a year and a half so i know wut i'm talking about.

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You have been playing the same build or something?
Bladers WERE the best defense builds, now paladins [warrior/cleric] are the best defense build. Most defense, defense self buff, and because of the effects of the attacks they pretty much don't get hit. Sword and shield paladin is the best tanker in the game now.

And bladers are hardly undefeatable, in fact, they can't really kill any chinese str char with the same equips.


Best PvP char really does not exist. Everyone knows that is a fact. You cannot really generalize PvP with 1 char. 1 vs 1, a wizard might be the best because of 1 hit KO nukes, but so same with rogues because of 1 hit KO crits. Job wars, maybe a glavier vs many opponents. In sieges, again either wizard due to aoe skills, or rogue due to range, maybe even bow later on when they get the range increase skills, but that's wall to ground sieges, once the door is broken, it's maybe blader or warrior, since they will all be buffed and healed in these situations and the tankers will be more likely to survive the bashing.

Even in PvP there are several types of PvP and not 1 of the chars is best at all of those types, they are better at some, but worse at others.

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any build with full sun, max blue and +11 gear.

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I say :
Pure INT rouge :P

when ppl stop this noob question and realize that there is no best build or this will not be a good game ?! :?

Every build have it's advantages and disadvantages and you should choose what you love to play and can really play

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best build for the 80 cap atm is bowers/ glaviers/ and s/s nukers for the chinese, for the Euros I'd said anyone with a cleric. I'm baseing my opinions on the pot system. Spear nukers and bladers can't do much at this cap, a lvl80 warrior 2hander can 1hit spear nukers and a blader can only annoy with flip and stab for now only a feww CRITs in a row will grant them a kill.

P.S. assuming people know how to play thier characters.

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