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I was expecting fellowship and fun, I ran into lack of planning and lack of willing to make it happen. This is what members really think about the crusade and this kind of people are the ones that will make the plan fail.

Dude I was also pissed off at the fact that some people were just willing to only be with certain people and stay in one main party. Since I was slightly behind on getting on the server, I couldnt do much to help others, and also because I was only a warlock.. but other people werent willing to split up. Its ridiculous how selfish some people were to just stay in the main party that was up and to leave off a couple people. I was also expecting fellowship.. but.. guess it was too much to expect.

Oh and Sayago, please stay, we need all we can get... Im hoping things will change

/sigh.....

90% of sro players are sheep.
10% of sro players are leaders.

seems to me like 2 guys planned and got 2 working parties together, and are leveling effectivly, while everyone else whines about parties without making any effort to start there own.

We had the same problem on venus with the same exact people. you move to another server and hope your new friends are dumb enough to hold your hand and do all the work for you.

Its not hard to press E. its not hard to make a party. Its not hard to advertise your party. If you have a guild and your members need parties then MAKE ONE! whineing about the big bad people who wont let u into there FULL party just makes you look retarded.

soooo glad Hera took the lazy mindless sheep off venus. Sorry to the REAL Hera players, you have to put up with those people until another server opens and they run off again

Oh shut up, you guys did the very same thing and I was in the secondary party but decided to quit due to the simple fact you guys left a lot of people behind.
you must have an idea of how hard it is to find people that know how to play their builds and how annoying it is.
I don't want people to hold my hand, I want people willing to play for hours without quitting, no school/work/mom won't let me play excuses, if you knew you wouldn't be able to play why bother signing up?

Fly, sorry to tell you but keep that attitude up and soon you'll be left with the first few Avalon members and believe me the bots will outnumber you greatly. You should start thinking of someone else other than yourself.

this isn't kindergarten. We dont hole your hand as we walk across the street. If you can't hold on your own, what makes you think a party would want you? It only means they have to cover for you too.

Today there were almost 6 ppl in line for a full party...well they could have gotten together and made their own party. But some people just kept pming me, instead of initiating another party.

Anyway im thinking of switching to one hand so i can lead another party, cause a dual axe as the main tank = failure.

You just repeated what Fly said. Do you think I'm crying in a corner waiting for a party invite? I found my own party with Epic and Vengeance left outs, including me. I just hope they play as much as I do.

wth, we had vent and everything planned. i was the first to hit lvl 5 and make a party, i did, and vengeance members joined my party. we were organized, albeit not as good as avalon, but still good.

2bad am willin to help at anything but still waiting
for a spot at epic

The funny thing is I never even joined a party my level today. All I did was solo and join the guilds late comers party and played with them for a bit. Seriously, I don't think I've said anything wrong. I'm sure most people who wouldn't flame you would probably say the same thing or maybe help you a little more than I did. I actually didn't even know you were in the guild. If you didn't get that from how I was talking to you then you know now at least.

I might have been more nicer to you if I knew you were in the guild but some people need to be weeded out. Some people are just plain weak. Some of us are in another league above all the others. You chose to not get to know other members and go on vent. You chose not to buy silk. You make these decisions and expect us to help you stay up at our level but we cannot help you if you cannot at least try to do a few things to help yourself.

I try to help the guild out as best I can. I try not to make bad publicity for the guild. I never strive for anything in the guild that can hurt us as a whole or in the community, such as a large drop of members. I never did anything bad you just happened to not want to actively engage in the server before hand and this is why you suffer now. It is not over for you though. You can still start being active now. Actively try to be a part of the guild and we will try to help you. If you quit now some people in the guild will never even know you were in it. If you at least try to be active in the community and be liked you will get helped.

Now it is the first day. Get to work and try to become a part of the guild. I will not guarantee you will get anywhere unless you actually try to be a part of what you want a free ride with.

I can say that you would have been in good company Casey, had you made the effort to log onto the Ventrilo server that we have set up and gotten to know everyone beforehand. In reality, planning for the union was derived from all the members, each giving their opinion. When the server started, of course, not everyone in the guild got into the "main" party, I was one of them. But I will tell you what I didnt do. I didnt go on Vent and bitch to the other members that I wasnt in a party. I didnt seek out the members in game and send them stupid messages about how I am not in a party and how life sucks right now. No.

You see, since I had taken the time to get to know most, if not all of the union members thoroughly, a low level party was created through 2 other members and myself, as we were all on vent, know each other very well, and were near the same level. That party lasted for about 6-7 hours.

You cant judge any of our members Casey because you havent taken the time to get to know them, just like Blood said. It is up to you if you wanted to be apart of our community. If you had, this topic would paint and entirely different, yet truthful picture of our community, I guarantee this to you and to all who read.

Oh boo hoo.

I've been partying the whole time on Hera, and never with vengeance or epic members bar ONE. And they have been good parties too.

If you're not in a party...GO FIND ONE OR MAKE ONE. No wait, much easier to bitch and whine about it.

BTW how are you to doing in Hera lvl & enjoyment wise?

Topic Over

I don't expect anyone to give me anything for free, buddy.
If I didn't go on Vent is because the website engine seems to be always "out of order" and I get a google engine instead, even asked some people to copy/paste the IP and port and got nothing.
I do buy silk, in fact I'm probably the first 5 people on Hera to buy the new avatar plus the prem. card and spgt & pet.

Zappa, I did what you did, I created a party myself and grinded with the by then strangers for hours, even with Pawnage for around hour and a half. But guess what, once Pawnage left the party pretty much died because people don't know how to play their characters when partying. Pawnage died once, the next tanker died over 5 times in less than 10 minutes. That's where the dilemma lies, whether to hunt mobs 4 levels lower than you, team up with kids that think party grinding is only key smashing, or give up.
I'm not quitting, I never said I was going to. I'm just pissed off at how obviously you choose quantity over quality when it comes to the whole new people and quality over quantity when it's you and the close friends. I rather have a list written on the forums than shouting in Vent "make party plys"
-ok I maek!
I was really hoping for people to grind with steadily. Knowing I can log into the game and start grinding right away without having to find a good random party that I know is going to last a good while and that it's members are not clueless newcomers.



Oh and Hime_Sama, Perseus.. read the god damn replies following the first post, before posting

Let's face it man. There's always gonna be some people leveling faster than others. I used to be in Avalon 1 in Venus, but I couldn't keep up with their activeness, so I later switched to Midnight. Being left in the dust by your guild leaders doesn't make you a reject of any sort. Everyone has their own pace of grinding.

Buy GT/Premium time if you want to keep up with the main party. Otherwise, there's always the other members in the guild/union you can party with. There's also the "friends" function, which lets you call up your own group of in-game friends to party with. There's also party search.

There's no reason for you to not find parties at the beginning of the game. It might be a problem in a couple of months, when most Euros reach high levels and Constantinople becomes a ghost town. However, since the server just started, you'll find parties almost Constantly.

Next time, add all the good people in your party to your friends list. Then pm them anytime you feel like grinding. That way, you'll have a party of people who actually know what they are doing. Also don't hesitate to kick anyone who is dragging your party down (such as warriors who don't know how to tank, wizards that think they are tankers, and clerics/bards that think they are being taxied). Kick anyone who doesn't know what he is doing, then reform your party and let a good player in. By the time you reach Sungsungs and higher mobs, most people have a good idea what their role is in the party. You shouldn't have any problems then.
If you want to feel "unity" in the guild chat/vent, then by all means chat or talk with them. However, you must take into account that everyone grinds at their own pace. You can't expect guys like Pawnage, Sashimii, IceCrash, etc. to grind with you all the time.

I'm not telling you anything you don't already know.

For your tone, it seems that you know what my pace is like. How in heaven can I pm people on my friend list when everyone is off? <Rhetorical question>

Keep adding friends until your list is 20/20. After that, you will soon notice that there are people outside your friend list who often party with you (and does a good job). In that case, delete the ones that haven't logged on for quite a while, and then add people who you think will be playing on a regular basis. By the time you grind on Kokorus and Huns, you will notice who is worth keeping on the list and who isn't.

Sorry but fellowship is going on.

The high levels are trying to get 5 mil and 42 for fortress war... can you blame us?

Low lvls are trying to get up, but all the noob parties are hindering it. Sorry, but there will always be noob parties

today we had a party going on with lvl 3 22's and a bunch of 16s at crabs..

Sorry but, it's hard to include everyone if you're not in guild chat. We're working on leveling up the guilds ASAP but, takes a while.

I really don't know what you are talking about. Because of work i came in late, when i started on Hera Vengeance was already full, Pawned told me to wait till they reached lv 2 so i did, now its the 2nd day and i'm still guildless. Did that stop me from levelling? No! I'm already lv 15 with my limited playing time, i had a few awesome parties going on at Kiklopes and Polipemos with guess who? In our Polipemos party, that lasted about 2 hours before i had to go to bed, we only had 2 member of Epic, not a single from Vengeance. The other 6 guys, including me, were all guildless, hell 2 of them were even spanish who did not understand a word in english, but we still did an awesome job.
Take advantage of the amount of parties while the server's new, its really not hard to find a party at the moment so don't be lazy.

same here. i was in the main party for while and just jumped around. had parties with turks...spanish-speakers...whatever lol. just try to lvl up fast.

i ll make a party with you if you want

i started 6 hours later bcs i was at work i"m around lvl 18 now i think

leave me a msg mby we can help eachother out

This pretty much sums it up.


Besides that, I dunno why people say "Avalon doesnt like Vengeance because Vengeance took members from Avalon's union". Actually, its the opposite. Vengeance took like 4 members from us who kept going "Plvl plyyyys" in pm to me over and over, and for that I them. Saved me 4 chatblocks that can be used on some useful people. Thx to Vengeance for that! Its a simple survival of the fittest, the weak will die off. People who say "ZOMFG I CANT GET A PARTY" in Venus, quit. The people who are smart, somehow manage to get parties, and SuicideGirl's already at level 45 mobs. No parties? Solo. Its not that hard....

Same goes for Vengeance, they're too busy to level up nubs. Once they are 80 and fully farmed, and they FEEL like leveling up their friends who are moving to the server, they can go ahead. Until then, they got their own goals.

The site is fine. We switched vents using the site and all the people who were on vent before were able to make it onto the new vent easily. Don't make excuses, take the 30 seconds to look in general for the New Vent thread. And good for you, you bought silk! I did too. You got the stuff before others because you were on before us. So what does it matter?

Also, even though you think you do not expect anything for free, you in fact created this thread to show how we aren't handing out help to everyone. So it seems you wanted us to give you out the help but you didn't get it, so instead you are trying to make us look bad and leading us up to problems. I don't care what you say as a response because this is exactly what you meant by making this thread. If you didn't mean that and it was purely to bring the guild down then my appologies.

And just as a little heads up. Before you think I am hating on my own union. Read the messages more closely. He highlighted a message that he sent to me and it makes me seem like I am saying it sucks for Epic that they had no groups going when, in fact, I was talking about how it sucks for Venus how one of their groups shut down.

I have nothing against Venus players or Avalon. Most of you have been supportful enough but Necrobat was causing some trouble on our forums and we really don't know how you really feel about us, all we think is we had some problems with you and it's over now.

I appologize if I have offended anyone...

No, that's what it seems to be if it's not highlighted, I wish SRO had timestamps.
The reason of this thread was to show those 3 lines and how much SOME of the members care about other people than themselves.
I can't find a good real life example for this kind of situation but once I do I'll edit this post.



And this my last visit here. I can't be arsed to discuss what has been discussed already.

i lol'd

Causing troubles? Your members were having a go at another guild and union who was trying to HELP you. Yet you look at negatives and things taken out of context. All you did was stir trouble for yourself. I noticed it while I was helping you guys around, that the unity you shared just didn't seem there. I honestly mean that. People will want to feel included because of the "legits united" statements, but will probably quit when they don't party.

The problem is MOST people need people to hold their hands. They probably also need extras too look both ways before crossing the road. This is not directed at you either Casey.

By the way, I'd hate to be looking over in China. The goldbot count must be horrendous...

...I did read the posts before.
i was really just trying to be your friend,
i'm very sorry if i have insulted you or made you more angry.
i had the same experince as you (i was left out of the guild first add because i had school)
and i played 90% of the time with Turks or randoms who's english was 50% complete.
Once again i am sorry if i offended you.

You might have tried to help but all you really did was stir up trouble in the guild. We told you to stop numerous times because you were causing problems in OUR guild but you kept going. I have nothing more to say the proof is on the forums.

I never had ANYONE telling me to stop helping you guys, so unless you can provide me with a link to this, it's pure BS. Considering I have had no problems with members in your guild and any small misunderstanding were quickly sorted out. Personally, I'm seeing this as more of a personal vendetta, or else I'm sure Ice, Pawn or Sashimii would've said something to me a fair while ago.