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Chaos-Angel
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Post subject: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:49 pm |
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This is Information I found while searching at school Botting Silkroad boasts a considerable amount of botters. In attempts to combat this issue, "Client Altering Preventing Function" and other functions have been added.[4] This problem had been somewhat alleviated as Joymax has in the past been blocking gold collecting bots in large amounts; 1,500 were blocked during the first exertion,[5] 1,400 in the second,[6] 1,700 in the third,[7] and 4,000 in the fourth.[8] Yet there are still thousands of users who bot. The majority of forum threads on the Silkroad Online official website are complaints about botters. Users claim that bots hinder quest completion and overall enjoyment of the game. The missing actions against botting, gold selling and other ways of altering the regular game play by Joymax does cause a lot of frustration among the players. Many players rumor that Joymax allows the botters due to lack of action against them. The often announced "WAR AGAINST BOTS" never exceeded the block of gold bots without implementing a solution to avoid them to come back, since blocks are account-based, not IP-based. And now it seems that Joymax completely gave up on it, they have even deleted "no botting" from their ToS, making it actually legal. So legits better hope that better games come out in the near future  Dont believe me look for yourself. . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silkroad_Online
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Berto
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:52 pm |
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Wikipedia is pretty unreliable as it's the users who create and edit the pages themselves. But I read through that page and i'd have to agree with majority of the points he made.
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Chaos-Angel
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:54 pm |
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Its easy to tell they have given up, they havent really done anything yet about the gold bots even if they are coming back. pretty soon all the names will be used up and they cant make bots with the same name.
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ShadowSpell
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:04 pm |
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Chaos-Angel grow up and change your avatar instead of childish garbage like that.
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ThisIsAvalon
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:05 pm |
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They let the community run the game, and have instituted a hand-off approach pretty much.
Not that its a bad thing, its just people are too lazy to go and get rid of bots themselves. Most people anyways.
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Azilius
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:06 pm |
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All the names? It's up to twelve characters, with numbers and capitals. 10 numbers, 26 lowercase letters, and 26 uppercase letters, and underscores, and whatever else..you do the math. Also, Joymax still has the 'no botting' area in their TOS. Quote: 2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities. As stated in the Operation Policy..anyway, wikipedia is definitely not a reliable source.
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ShadowSpell
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:09 pm |
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Azilius wrote: All the names? It's up to twelve characters, with numbers and capitals. 10 numbers, 26 lowercase letters, and 26 uppercase letters, and underscores, and whatever else..you do the math. Also, Joymax still has the 'no botting' area in their TOS. Quote: 2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities. As stated in the Operation Policy..anyway, wikipedia is definitely not a reliable source. but they have not defined what is considered an illegal programs so that leave it open for debate.
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Toshiharu
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:05 pm |
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You can't get rid of botters. You can only delay it. And here's to a future post that's ganna go "ZOMFGZ WOW HAS NO BOTS!". Lies. People bot up characters and puts them up in ebay.
Deal with the bots or go play a game that isn't mmorpg. Still ganna have hackers. I guess then its back to console games.
@Above. Don't bring in the "Free" excuse. Outspark, K2Network, etc etc host free games and they have good customer service. Free or not. They're still supposed to give good service. When you accept a free sample of something do you expect it to be shitty and worthless? Of course not. Same with free games with premium(Item Mall) in it.
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ineedhelp
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:12 pm |
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not this again -,-
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Rainigul
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:30 pm |
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Some idiot just edited it. Look at the developer and all that stuff "Gaymax" Yeah, awesome dude. 
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Ice
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:44 pm |
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[SD]Rainigul wrote: Some idiot just edited it. Look at the developer and all that stuff "Gaymax" Yeah, awesome dude.  yes it's really easy to edit put in and write what you want in there so is not always true
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Deacon
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:47 pm |
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OT; Think so, they removed it from their TOS
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Spellbinder
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:05 pm |
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ShadowSpell wrote: Chaos-Angel grow up and change your avatar instead of childish garbage like that. But that's what happens when trying to log in. Don't make him hide the truth. 
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:29 am |
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Wikipedia is such very powerful tool. It saddens me when people abuse it. 
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Barotix
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:23 am |
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I have a link in my signature, it would aide you to click it. Botting in sro is not Legal, nor is it Illegal. Because Joymax has not defined what they consider Illegal they are not liable to ban botters. In my eyes and IMO botting is BAD! in the eyes of most of sro its "I don't care how people play the game" emphasis on play (Irony: their not playing  )
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sama98b
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:57 am |
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Ppl can do anything in the game, not going to get banned for it there. If buying silk then account is safe even from inactivity deletion.
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hatred2k8
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:21 am |
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hard to believe they make botting legal isnt it? eh..
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Sylhana
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:39 am |
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JM like any other game company, has game designers, developers, and marketeers. As a company providing a service, they laid out a set of rules for customers to abide to. To an extent this is dictated by JM and its customers (via their Marketeering team). When the game was in its infancy, there were more legit players than botters. It was in JM's best interest to appease the majority of their customers.
Right now, the balance has swung to the other end. A change in the wording of the ToS, and their inaction on previously ban-able offenses, add up to a change in focus for JM (ie protecting revenue). The ToS change as Baro pointed out, is vague, but gives JM time to figure out what to do or not do anything at all. They can at any time do a reversal on this, and make it stark clear what we can or cannot do.
Its the customers that drive policy. There are as much potential revenue coming from legit players as there are from nonlegit players. Inaction from JM and legit players will take their gaming elsewhere, servers overrunned with bots, game eventually dies. Maybe thats why they have Dark Eden <.<. To answer if botting is illegal? It has been, and still is.
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Alterran
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:59 pm |
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Azilius wrote: All the names? It's up to twelve characters, with numbers and capitals. 10 numbers, 26 lowercase letters, and 26 uppercase letters, and underscores, and whatever else..you do the math. Also, Joymax still has the 'no botting' area in their TOS. Quote: 2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities. As stated in the Operation Policy..anyway, wikipedia is definitely not a reliable source. thats only 6760 names and lol there have already been at least what 5k bot names?
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Alterran
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:19 pm |
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Toshiharu wrote: You can't get rid of botters. You can only delay it. And here's to a future post that's ganna go "ZOMFGZ WOW HAS NO BOTS!". Lies. People bot up characters and puts them up in ebay.
Deal with the bots or go play a game that isn't mmorpg. Still ganna have hackers. I guess then its back to console games.
@Above. Don't bring in the "Free" excuse. Outspark, K2Network, etc etc host free games and they have good customer service. Free or not. They're still supposed to give good service. When you accept a free sample of something do you expect it to be shitty and worthless? Of course not. Same with free games with premium(Item Mall) in it. k2network does host Warrock which has great customer service i do recomend ppl try this game
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eendz0r
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:20 pm |
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i lolled at your poll
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sama98b
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:57 pm |
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eendz0r wrote: i lolled at your poll Yep because 95% of ppl know the answer and the rest 5% still thinking on it 
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Chaos-Angel
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:20 am |
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ok all I know is that Gold botting sites are idoits. If they have more bots then people, then there isnt going to be much costumers. So sooner or later people will just give up cause it takes some hours to log on which pisses me off the most. and then why buy all this good gear when its hard to find a decent place to grind when bots everywere are killing every monster on site.
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:35 am |
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i want to quit but there isnt any better mmo with sro kind of party play 
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Azilius
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Post subject: Re: BOTTING LEGAL ???? Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:55 am |
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Alterran wrote: Azilius wrote: All the names? It's up to twelve characters, with numbers and capitals. 10 numbers, 26 lowercase letters, and 26 uppercase letters, and underscores, and whatever else..you do the math. Also, Joymax still has the 'no botting' area in their TOS. Quote: 2. Users found to be using or distributing illegal programs may be subject to restrictions of their account or have their account deleted. In particular cases, the user may be subject to investigation by the proper authorities. As stated in the Operation Policy..anyway, wikipedia is definitely not a reliable source. thats only 6760 names and lol there have already been at least what 5k bot names? You fail at math  That's well over a billion names.
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