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 Post subject: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:03 am 
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if i am going to go both daggers and xbow do i get every single skill? also, i am going for warlock as sub, which skills do i take?

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 Post subject: Re: bard/cleric or 2h/xbow
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:14 am 
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2h/xbow would be a fun build. I am pretty sure bard/cleric would take more sp, it just depends on what skills you want.

(on the other hand, if you're going 2h/xbow you should choose on or the other and pick cleric sub. You won't get as good of advantages if you do two melee classes.)

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:06 am 
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*sigh* Here we go again, its like saying "is pure INT bow good?". Rogue/Warlock is overkill! You already dish out tons of damage what's the point of wasting his SP on the de-buffs? It will only make you much weaker and will render Stealth totally useless. You will have to de-buff, losing Stealth status, then switch to Crossbow/Daggers, cast CE or DD and only then attack. Meanwhile your opponent will ghost walk to you, and kill you before you're able to do any damage on him.

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:44 am 
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Pure Int Bow = Less Damage...

There's a video of Rogue/Warlock floating around somewhere. Wasn't that interesting. Personally, I think Warlock sub is good for any class though. With the ability to steal HP, Debuff and Stun, as long as you walk around most of the time with your Warlock set on you probably will never die under most circumstances. But I agree with the idea that it is overkill for Rogue. Depending on what you want to do I suggest Bard or Cleric.

Cleric - Stronger PvP character with no ability to party in PvE.

Bard - Weaker PvP charcter with a decent ability to party if you have friends.

Even the people I have talked to who party a lot say that Cleric is better in the long run because you will probably get alot of experience out of solo anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:22 am 
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If u wan to t be good at pvp just use cleric, u can be just as good. Bless+rd+holy word+stealth+DD= 1 shot almost all the time if u use prick as ur first skill, and if they block the attack switch to cleric cast heavenly flash run beck a little, switch to Xbow+CE and snipe them for about 5 seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:30 am 
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noobert mclagg wrote:
If u wan to t be good at pvp just use cleric, u can be just as good. Bless+rd+holy word+stealth+DD= 1 shot almost all the time if u use prick as ur first skill, and if they block the attack switch to cleric cast heavenly flash run beck a little, switch to Xbow+CE and snipe them for about 5 seconds.

that is the lame way to play a rogue indeed.

you can avoid using DD with warlock debuffs
weakness of rogues is usually the hp/defense decrease when in the damage increase modes :D
with a warlock sub you can stun and have enough time to use your damage increase or just debuff your enemy.


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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:49 pm 
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borat2 wrote:
noobert mclagg wrote:
If u wan to t be good at pvp just use cleric, u can be just as good. Bless+rd+holy word+stealth+DD= 1 shot almost all the time if u use prick as ur first skill, and if they block the attack switch to cleric cast heavenly flash run beck a little, switch to Xbow+CE and snipe them for about 5 seconds.

that is the lame way to play a rogue indeed.

you can avoid using DD with warlock debuffs
weakness of rogues is usually the hp/defense decrease when in the damage increase modes :D
with a warlock sub you can stun and have enough time to use your damage increase or just debuff your enemy.


Hmm..interesting point of view. Might even work out ;-)


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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:04 pm 
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borat2 wrote:
noobert mclagg wrote:
If u wan to t be good at pvp just use cleric, u can be just as good. Bless+rd+holy word+stealth+DD= 1 shot almost all the time if u use prick as ur first skill, and if they block the attack switch to cleric cast heavenly flash run beck a little, switch to Xbow+CE and snipe them for about 5 seconds.

that is the lame way to play a rogue indeed.

you can avoid using DD with warlock debuffs
weakness of rogues is usually the hp/defense decrease when in the damage increase modes :D
with a warlock sub you can stun and have enough time to use your damage increase or just debuff your enemy.


might be lame, but it works. :D

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
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As a Warlock secondary that supports your damage primary you usually switch weapons after you Stun your opponent. So really it would be a lot better just to cast the DD just in case you are blocked so you can kill them easily with the combo hits.

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:36 pm 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnCmMwrj60o

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:57 pm 
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I was gonna say this build is good only against full sun people, and even then it isnt necessary.

That video above my post is against a full sun blader, sure he's tough to take down but that rogue is underfarmed. A rougue with lvl 80 rogue mastery would need 2, or 3 max skills to take down that blader..they really wouldnt need bleed and decay on.

Its an okay 1v1 build against the full suns in your server, against the rest its unnecessary.

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 Post subject: Re: rogue/warlock
PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:49 pm 
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Berto wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DnCmMwrj60o

lol at when he just stands there watching the blader :D
guess this is my next build :P
havent made any euro yet still dont like the pot fact


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