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Because most iSRO PvP'ers are braindead bots who never learned how to play their character. They don't realise that lion shouts can interrupt an enemy's next attack, or that 3 lion shouts(different books) used one after another does as much damage as a nuke. Instead they spam KDs/soul spears to the point that i wonder sometimes why they're not called pure INT glaviers/bladers yet.

Lion Shouts do not interupt the next action. Fudge pointed out that it was due to the Shouts' damage taking others MP down to 0 because of Snow Shield.

Anyway, kSRO does party...



Either Full Euro or...



A mix with Chinese.

thought they just use lion shouts because they ran out of masteries for weapon skills lol

LOL
where did u get that infomation, sir?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pAcx6rky5a4

1:00 - 1:05

Da_Realest confirmed that sometimes it prevented enemies actions. Word spread around but then was disproved. Guess he didn't get the message.

It doesnt prove anything. He has mana shield on. And 10k dmg lion shout is not shit.

i wouldn't call a party full of wizards with 2 bards and a cleric or a party full of chinese with 2 bards and a cleric "the best".

2 warriors/3-4
3 wiz/4-5
1 cleric/2-3
+-2 bards, or +-2 warlocks.

^thats the best, that is functional.

OT: lion shout is better than ice nukes.

And I bet you've tryed the Chinese parties too right...?

Don't talk about it unless you've tried it. It's a far more efficient party because this way they can bot the party, and the Cleric can too with heavy macros. If they do indeed bot the party they will be level 100 in no time. All they have to do is hope the Bards dances aren't canceled overnight.

bots have nvr been more efficient than real players. The only reason they outlvl real human players is because they go nonstop 24/6 (inspection).

Mine, the HUMAN based party is far superior than any shoddy bot party.

Yeh that's the point... Koreans don't fool around they just bot the shit out of there party and get to 100 about 10x faster than you ever could playing legit. Like I said, they've had the time to figure out exactly what is best for Silkroad and everything they do in it is pretty much perfected. kSRO would roll over iSRO players in leveling and PvP it is as simple as that.

What you're trying to say is: if some chinese character in Ksro decided to bot 20 - 100 in one of these lame parties they would "roll" Isro Legits who know their character "like the back of their hand".

"time spent playing"(in this case the bot spent the time) =/= experience. On another note: have you seen botters party? They atk any and all mobs no distinction, you honestly think their gonna grind faster than my 8/8 AoE euro party? gg

take out the Time limitations and any 8/8 AoE euro party will role ALL.

lol you really area a tard if you think they bot their party

Ok seriously I am getting pissed at how Farking stupid people can be. None of you realize this game is about 1% Skill and 99% Level and Equipment. This game is Farking the easiest game I have ever played. It took me a total of a couple hours to learn how to play this game perfectly and as long as you aren't a retard you can learn it too. There are no tricks you can learn by having played this and PvE will not teach you how to PvP unless you seriously think others will be like, "OMG A TANK LETS GO FOR HIM!", so you can sit back and nuke the shit out of him. PvE =/= PvP and thus botting your character will not make a difference between your ability to PvP. You might function well with others in your party but that's it.

This game is simple but the hardest part is leveling. Why waste your time taking so long to level when you can bot to get to the better part, PvP. This is not a bot admition this is just me calling the majority of other legits Farking stupid.

Also I never said they did I said they can. I've never done a Chinese Euro party but seriously just turning on some bots and macros can give you and almost invincible party that runs almost 24/7...

Yup. You can nuke(takes about 2 secs) then lion shout, lion shout, lion shout, ghost spear in quick succession. It's very devastating in terms of continuous dmg.

koreans spam..

Glaives - ghost spear
nukers - lion shout
bowmen- arrow combo
bladers- they dont use them

even in 1v1.

Exactly. And it out damages the weapon attacks too plus gives you Fire or Force mastery to max.(Or Ice but that can be at 60 at 120 cap so not really good to max)

Nice sig btw.



I guess they don't 1v1 much. Although this is probably the best stuff to be doing om Wars and stuff though because it will provide the most amount of support for your damage dealers.

I personally use all of my lion shouts, after a nuke or two, Spam lion shout and you should have a good chance of them dying.

Now I'm pissed you prick bot supporter:
*=unsure




Still talking like a Chinese.. Yes this game is easy on the surface, Chinese are cookie cutters: its as simple as that. You create your character pick masteries, get a 100% GT and SPT and grind 3 hours a day 1,2,3,4,5 rinse and repeat, for 4 months and then you reach 72, another month and you're 80, another month and you're 80 fully farmed.

Euros shouldn't act chinese and any euro with half a brain won't solo unless they CAN'T find a party and they have exhausted ALL their resources looking.



PvE can and will teach you how to PvP.

Scenario: A Warrior decided to bot to the cap, and just went 1h/warlock because "Their bad-ass and he saw a cool vid". Its the warriors 5th day actually playing the character, and he goes to PvP he gets rocked, bitches about pot delay and sells the character: I'm sure he had fun

A warrior decided to party to the cap, and goes to help defend the Fortress Is unrealistic and won't happen, but what will happen is this:

You will have an invincible cleric, 3 wizzies who are as adamant as the cleric, 2 warriors (1h) ready to rock and roll, and 2 bards. Naturally any dumbass with a character will go, hey a cleric, lets go gang em: good luck with that, warrior sprint assault shield crush/trash and you're far from the cleric. You want the cleric? kill the warrior. You don't have to make the choice to kill the warrior initially, but if that warrior has half a brain he won't let you anywhere near the cleric(s). Lets say you kill the cleric (near impossible, with screens, buffs, quotas, fences, bless, lol you won't kill that cleric), but lets say you kill it anyway. Guess what: the wizards have cleric sub (not surprising) and what does one pop off? REVERSE OBLATION! (while the other wiz, heals until the main cleric is fully buffed and good to go) You won't faze this party, once the gears start cranking there is no stopping it! everything a Europeans learns in PvE is 100% applied in PvP, then again you wouldn't know that would you? gg

Now you're probably saying, Chinese are better, so lets do your scenario mister bot sympathizer: Chinese 8/8 with 2 bards and 1 cleric. You scenario entirely relies on the buffers, so what do i do? i get 2 rogues, 3 wizzies, 1 clerics, and 2 warrior to counter that. Most Chinese don't even bother lvling their destealth past 1, and a wizard can make the entire party invisible. Well you're now fight a party full of invisible mates. The 2 rouges kill your cleric and then run (for 12* seconds while under bless then recast stealth), 2/3 wizards AoE your bards, you're now defenseless and all this in less the 5 seconds. The 2 warriors begin to shield trash, shield crush, and sprint assault like hell knows no fury (completely immobilizing the chinese) The only thing that could slow them down is that accursed Bow Combo, so how do you deal with it? remember that last wizard who didn't leave invis, and the 2 rogues who re-stealthed. Their baaack, and now their going to rape your bows. I'm still assuming the wizards have cleric sub, so 4 bless spells, combined with screens fences and quota? INVINCIBLE! pot delay? nvr heard of it i have healing division cycle and orbit.

YOU AND YOUR INADEQUAT BOT NOOB PARTY DON'T STAND A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL! (assuming hell is hot )

Any person that has gone against the formidable force that is a european party should know that if the warrior sucks the entire party is going down.

You obviously have nvr been in a real 8/8 euro party or thought beyond your "must be capped to play mentality". Games are for fun, and if the botters can't handle the grind (pVe) then they shouldn't be PvPing. gg

your party is NOWHERE near invincible, not even close.

How are you even a mod? You are rushing to conclusions calling me a bot supporter? I didn't read a single thing you had to say because I know I'm right and you haven't shown me anything before that makes me want to read your argument. It will just be something stupid trying to give yourself and excuse why you should want to play legit.

lol, my argument has to do with why PvE = PvP for a european, and your post hint toward a preference for parties that bot rather than parties that don't.

PvE =/= PvP

You might think so but I don't even think you are even in a position to say that with a 3x Warrior, haven't even experienced Recovery Division or any of the better shit yet >_>. As long as you cannot create and equal scenario between PvE and PvP, which is impossible, it will never be equal. You think to little of botters and that they seriously do not understand the basics of SRO, which includes partying. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Euros are for support and that the support skills that are useful for everything but taunt and stuff, only use in PvE, are good. It is an easy concept which you cannot grasp because you expect all botters to be stupid and not understand the game they are trying to take shortcuts in. You see all these respected people being banned or admitting they are botters and you still think of bots being absolute scum that are horrible at PvP. What you should think of bots are normal players who just don't feel like leveling so they use a shortcut.

Anyway, as long as there will never be an equal scenario between PvE and PvP you cannot say that PvE will teach you how to play PvP. You can only have experience with the character which after about 1 day a botter can learn through PvP.

ignore the 3x, and i hate cheaters with a burning passion
You're the one that cannot grasp, that you ONLY use taunt in PvE, and most parties have rogues (or chinese) luring then tankers taking the agro off the rogue (or chinese). The Scenarios are equal, Your party VS my Party, AKA My party VS Mobs. Just remove agro control (taunt) and replace the NPC with intelligent AI (other Players ). My lvl is irrelevant as is yours, all that matters are the facts and strategies that can be applied in the respective parties, and trust me your Majority chinese party comes no where near capable what The 100% european party could do.

Lets have fun, you propose a party and scenario then I'll propose a counter party and counter scenario. Every possible scenario devoid of taunt that can be applied in PvE can be applied in PvP, in the case of a 8/8 european party, or a 4/4 Assault Cell.

Legit or Botter doesn't matter, allot players can't PvP well. (its just you brought up the whole botted party being better than the euro party)

EDIT: OffTopic: don't assume i haven't experienced the "better shit" yet. lol@you not knowing how a pt works, I have been in bad parties (which i tolerate for that last 10%) and good parties, which i or someone superior leads.

IMO a bad party is better than roughing it solo (sometimes XD)

Partying is simple. Insert Clerics with Absolute damage, Insert 2 Bards, Insert 5 Glaivers or Chinese Nukers and you have an unbeatable party, PvE and PvP. It is too easy to do either and nothing will help you to prepare vs these kinds of parties since you are facing easily killed monsters. To be good in PvP you need PvP experience, not PvE experience. I can easily destroy your party by wiping your Wizards with Abosolute damage then taking out your Warriors when I have all my damage able to concentrate on them, and before you say what about my Cleric you should know from about 80 on your Cleric will be mostly inside town only coming out to deal Absolute damage and the occasional Offering.

Your party: 1 cleric, 2 bards, 5 glaivers = 8/8
My counter: 2 warriors, 2 rogues, 3 wizzies, and one cleric. = 8/8

The warriors are the weakest, kill them first not the wiz. If you want to get rid of this party ASAP with your party then kill the warriors, and then have your glaivers attempt to kill the Cleric (bless + earth shield = a live and kicking cleric) The cleric will group res + division, and then the wizard/cleric will cast a second bless (to give the warriors time to recuperate 5 seconds). Even if you do get through all of this you have 2 rogues that will force your glaivers to atk them, and with the warriors back up, you're gonna end up atking some invincible rogues. The dmg distribution(from warriors) buffs render your absolute dmg worthless.

For you the easiest target would be the Bards, because they have no shield and they are pumping buffs, i would have the rogues take out the bards. Your cleric will cast oblation then bless; we will go invisible (from wizards) for 46* seconds and wait out your bless, you attempt to cast combustion to detect us all our warriors sprint assualt 2/5 then shield crush/trash your chinese and rogues force them to atk the rogues, who were screened and BS was pumped when you attempted to detect. Now we are cranking at full force, the wizzies Nuke the Life out of your bards and proceed to nuke your cleric who still has bless on cooldown (note: we still have a bless left). The warriors sprint and Daring Berserker the Cleric, while the rogues stealth and atk 2 glaivers. The cleric attempts Offering, but that 80% kb X4 won't let it. so we have 2 glaives down, and the wizzies will just kill your other glaives.

All of this could be applied to PvE, only difference is the NPC can't think and only reacts to agro meaning the tanks would have to use taunt/s and the rogues would either lure or be replaced with another class. You don't even want to know what a warlock will do to your chinese party.

Your response: what did the glaives do during that time?
My response: They fought, but couldn't pull of enough dmg without their bard, and the cleric died. Also the warriors were being a pest with their buffs and those Wizard/Clerics were a drag.

lol@the only coming out to do absolute dmg. once again imposing the chinese mindset into the European teamplay.

Hey blood, since when could you hump the safe zone, in the middle of a trade that is getting jacked, since when could you hump the safe zone in a Fortress war, since when could you hump the safezone during a GW at the Bowl in Takla. Since when? Still thinking like a chinese, tsk, tsk, tsk.

Easy counter to safe zone humping when my party is movable, move away from safe zone leaving your buffers with two choices: stay in safe zone and do nothing or come out and die because they have no buffs to protect themselves. Face it, you don't know how to party and still have the whole chinese mindset. Any fully functional European Party will rock and Chinese party + 10 - 15 lvls. Your absolute dmg will be distributed among party members rendering that useless. My Warriors will be disrupting your glaivers, and my rogues will also disrupt the glaivers before killing them. You won't be able to kill anybody in the party without first killing those annoying (1h)warriors, and the warriors will buff the weakest parts before even thinking of buffing themselves. Euros that know how to play can't be beaten by chinese who are just as skilled, yes it will be hard for the Europeans, but if we're assuming their evenly matched and there is no safezone involved then the Europeans will come out on top.

Blood there won't always be a safezone to hug.



any chinese retard



Thats very 1v1ish. I'm not talking about 1v1 I'm talking about P(arty)vP(arty) not P(erson)vP(erson)

I didn't forget bards reduce dmg, thats why i go after your bards, and how will you kill my wizzies? Blessed Screened Quotaed and fenced, lulz good luck killing anyone (other than the warriors) on my team. Full str bards would run out of MP so fast its not even funny, They would still be eliminated by the wizards. My dmg is not easily killable because you don't consider the warriors or rogues a threat, you underestimate them, which will be your downfall.

As a i said the battle will be tough, but this scenario has been run so many times its like clockwork: the Europeans will come out on top.

lol, you dont need to learn how to play this game by grinding...

pvping is pressing a few buttons in sequence its not hard, any retard can learn the correct sequence and tricks in less then 2 hrs

Um dude my Bards would be in town. Good luck killing them. Anyway I would just absolute your Wizards then kill your Rogues because they actually are the weakest on your team. I don't even have to attack the Wizards all I have to do is send my Glaivers to kill your Rogues while the Wizards are taken out by absolute damage and the Warriors sit there trying to tank or something.

lol@warriors being weakest.(I can do it too!) I guess you've forgotten that Warriors have Vital Increase, Skins and are Full Str. The smart thing to do is keep your Cleric in town instead of having them out as cannon fodder. I'd rather play to win with my Clerics and Bards in town then play the way you play for whatever reason that is.

And uhh Raged! you are basically saying that PvP is easy to learn so you have to PvE or you won't know how to play. Which means if they already know the basic shit they should just bot their characters so they can get to the easy part of the game...

what the hell?
how can you turn something so easy to say and make it so complicated

@blood read my edits, they counter everything you typed.
Your best counter so far has been hugging the safezone, which can be easily countered by the opposing party heading away from the safezone.

LOL
and euro PVPing is hard?
ill break it down for you
-press T, setup HP/Mana/Pill recovery
difficulty 0/5
-use correct sequence of skills for your own class, know opponent HP full str about 19-22K, full int about 8k-10k, when you estimate their HP is low use fast skill to finish off. can be learned by watching a youtube video
difficulty - 1/5
-low HP, press vigor
difficulty - 0.1/5
-low HP, press [insert life saving skill, like bless, skin, etc]
difficulty - 0.1/5

Ok dude you can do trade runs all you want I rly don't care about those. I wouldn't be PvPing to steal your trades I'm doing it for the fun and competition. Plus you are forgetting that Bards reduce damage plus there is the Cleric that reduces damage. My Bards would probably be Full Str anyway and your Wizards would be dead by the time you truly engaged my team and my Glaivers would probably be finishing off your Cleric by then, Unless he Blessed then they just kill your Rogues. Your damage is to easily killed and thus your party is useless, unless they don't use their damage buffs which makes them pointless then. There is really nothing you can do to my party other than kill my Cleric which probably won't happen anyway.