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BloodOwnzzz · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:18 am

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

What? Go after that easy? Cant even touch the skin of the bowman
Look @ 2:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQqRkXXO5o

Oh, I didnt know that arrows combo have splash now. You can arrow combo BOTH my wizard and my tank at the same time? :shock:

Wow, nice hacks.... :roll:

[SARCASM]Yeh it's the new .pk2 edit they made at 0x33...[/SARCASM]

*Added sarcasm just in case*

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

What? Go after that easy? Cant even touch the skin of the bowman
Look @ 2:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQqRkXXO5o

Oh, I didnt know that arrows combo have splash now. You can arrow combo BOTH my wizard and my tank at the same time? :shock:

Wow, nice hacks.... :roll:

Yeh it's the new .pk2 edit they made at 0x33...

Screenshot or never happened.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Da_Realest wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Assuming KB hits, scorn is canceled: switch to Xbow use KB (move name escapes me) on archer, followed up by KD(assuming it hits 2x 50% each 100%): switch to dagger activate DD scud to archer and prick for 40k. Warlock/Cleric stuns cleric/bard, Cleric cast Bless spell.

Your move.

1. This bow user is in Armor not Garments like a typical bow user. Not to mention the Fences casted on my Armor Bow user. You're not hitting 40k even with a critical.
2. You can't kd or knockback an opponent that has a wall casted.

With that said, your Rogue won't kill me. So you may want to rethink that step.. If not, I can continue.

El-oh-El, no KD or KB because he doesn't have to get close: In his comfort zone with a Fence and Fire wall i shouldve read better.

so Scorn is canceled, hmm: Rogue is Kbed. Warlock/Cleric does a group stun on the warrior in armour the cleric/bard and the (A)Archer, Cleric cast bless. normal mage atke bow in Fire breaking shield followed up by KB x6 80% each.

@blood, not all warrior and cleric buffs are applicable outside a party.
@Da_realist, i like how in your 4th sro PvP video the glaiver ran away from the blader.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:24 am

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

What? Go after that easy? Cant even touch the skin of the bowman
Look @ 2:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQqRkXXO5o

Oh, I didnt know that arrows combo have splash now. You can arrow combo BOTH my wizard and my tank at the same time? :shock:

Wow, nice hacks.... :roll:

What? I thought I killed 1 of your men at the beginning, so it is 8vs7. Easy to KB now, huh? Ah, u have a bard cant fight, so 8v6

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

What? Go after that easy? Cant even touch the skin of the bowman
Look @ 2:18 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQqRkXXO5o

Oh, I didnt know that arrows combo have splash now. You can arrow combo BOTH my wizard and my tank at the same time? :shock:

Wow, nice hacks.... :roll:

What? I thought I killed 1 of your men at the beginning, so it is 8vs7. Easy to KB now, huh? Ah, u have a bard cant fight, so 8v6

You cant break thru 3000 def no matter how hard you tried.... unless you had a Wizard in your party.

BloodOwnzzz · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:31 am

7 SoSun Bows...

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

7 SoSun Bows...

getting desperate? same concept i used against silos earlier party. Rogues/clerics and wizards/clerics, throw in two warriors to fill it, even though you're about to get one hit.

BloodOwnzzz · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:32 am

Barotix wrote:

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

7 SoSun Bows...

getting desperate?

Not my build it's his. Was just saying...

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Barotix wrote:

Assuming KB hits, scorn is canceled: switch to Xbow use KB (move name escapes me) on archer, followed up by KD(assuming it hits 2x 50% each 100%): switch to dagger activate DD scud to archer and prick for 40k. Warlock/Cleric stuns cleric/bard, Cleric cast Bless spell.

Your move.

1. This bow user is in Armor not Garments like a typical bow user. Not to mention the Fences casted on my Armor Bow user. You're not hitting 40k even with a critical.
2. You can't kd or knockback an opponent that has a wall casted.

With that said, your Rogue won't kill me. So you may want to rethink that step.. If not, I can continue.

El-oh-El, no KD or KB because he doesn't have to get close: In his comfort zone with a Fence and Fire wall i shouldve read better.

so Scorn is canceled, hmm: Rogue is Kbed. Warlock/Cleric does a group stun on the warrior in armour the cleric/bard and the (A)Archer, Cleric cast bless. normal mage atke bow in Fire breaking shield followed up by KB x6 80% each.

@blood, not all warrior and cleric buffs are applicable outside a party.

My Rogue/Warrior uses the AoE Scorn that gets the attention of your two Warriors, then switching to 1hd/Shield. While doing so, My 2 Bow users spam knockback combo on the Wizard who just attacked and my Warlock/Cleric cast Advance Reflect and stuns your Rogue.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:35 am

what skill that give 3k def?

Im trying to search in konpaku site

BloodOwnzzz · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:36 am

Bless + Screens

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:39 am

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

Bless + Screens

I know, but specificly? The maximum that bless can give is 200 def

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

NuclearSilo wrote:

what skill that give 3k def?

Im trying to search in konpaku site

Nightbloom came here with a screenshot pimping with that 6k def, Jesus Christ freaking unstoppable. Although 1 AoE would've killed her because the gear was not touched by the pimp hand.

ATM reading everything up to now to see what i can do to Da_Realist.
Hmm since my warriors weren't atking scorn won't do anything, so i have one immobilized rogue for 5 seconds and my Wizard is being annoyed. Thinking of a counter must check konpaku.

EDIT: yeah i knew it was to stop sprint, and screens thats why i need to think of a loophole, and i forgot what advanced reflect does. My brain isn't as top-notch as it was when i started with blood, I'm bogged down by this gay flu.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Barotix wrote:

NuclearSilo wrote:

what skill that give 3k def?

Im trying to search in konpaku site

Nightbloom came here with a screenshot pimping with that 6k def, Jesus Christ freaking unstoppable. Although 1 AoE would've killed her because the gear was not touched by the pimp hand.

ATM reading everything up to now to see what i can do to Da_Realist.
Hmm since my warriors weren't atking scorn won't do anything, so i have one immobilized rogue for 5 seconds and my Wizard is being annoyed. Thinking of a counter must check konpaku.

That was the point of scorn. To prevent your Warriors from taking any counterattack measures. You know, no casting screens, sprint assault, etc.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:43 am

lmao
Screen is only apply for 1 subject. How can u protect the whole pt with that?
And how could ThisIsAvalon knows what target im about to kill? :wink:

Advancechao · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 449 **Location:**

This topic is turning into a huge theoretical fight fest :shock:

On topic: Lion Shout works reeeally well on rogues and wizards. I remember pvping a nuker around my level on my rogue and he could kill me in two lion shouts, back to back. That's probably the same for wizards. On a side note, it's very good for plvl. I saw some level 80 nukers do 10k with their strongest shout, and that's basically the only attack they ever used excluding the lightning nuke. Very efficient.

BloodOwnzzz · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:36 am

I'm done with this fighting. I already got it down to this...

As long as you have 2 Warriors and 1 Cleric your party is pretty much invincible.(No more than 3 Wizards with it though...)

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

I'm done with this fighting. I already got it down to this...

As long as you have 2 Warriors and 1 Cleric your party is pretty much invincible.(No more than 3 Wizards with it though...)

YAY you got it:
2 tanks (warrior)
1 healer (cleric)
3 dmg (wizard)
2 spares. (other Euro Build)

and after that you can customize to your personal preference

.

Astra · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 535 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

8 Wizards keep up perma Party Invisible and then when your party least expects it AoE's the shit out of you. Beat that shit!

8 Warlocks using stealth detect pots keeping Advance Reflect casted?

FTW dudee!
I still haven't seen 8men warlock pt.
Scary theory. I can imagine Vampire Kisses going on all sides, diseased people everywhere, someone call a doctor!

-.- · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:39 am

advanced reflect + 2h reflect passive...
then just vital increase, skin and wait for them to kill themself

tedtwilliger · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:56 am

seriously, make a video of these fights or else you cant compare them.

These are too idealistic, what if the wariror goes to use a screen but hits the wrong key? what if he clicks the wrong target? what if the cleric goes to heal but hits offering instead?

dam theres so many variables in this game, you know the whole "human side" of the game and all. Theres no justice in arguing on paper because you aren't taking into account anything.

Not to forget lag :wink:

sama98b · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 1428 **Location:**

^^ everyone here thinks the rest is stupid enough to attack when seeing def buffs on the target ?

ps.: this topic just turn in to : I can kill you faster, and my build / team better ... kids

Gman22 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

This thread is so off topic, that Samuel L Jackson has GOT to make an appearance sometime. If I had money I would bet on it.

Gman22 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 519 **Location:**

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

That guy is in almost every movie made since the beginning of time.

HAVE YOU SEEN HIS RESUME???
omg

http://imdb.com/name/nm0000168/

wtfarrrrrrrrk.
that shit aint even funny. He was even in delta farce...a penguin movie.

jabbers · **Posted:** Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:02 pm

id like to see a bower KB the cleric just as he is casting bless, canceling it. as far as theoretical pvp that would be some funny shit

ShadeMoon · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 330 **Location:**

They dont know how to pvp

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Astra wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

BloodOwnzzz wrote:

8 Wizards keep up perma Party Invisible and then when your party least expects it AoE's the shit out of you. Beat that shit!

8 Warlocks using stealth detect pots keeping Advance Reflect casted?

FTW dudee!
I still haven't seen 8men warlock pt.
Scary theory. I can imagine Vampire Kisses going on all sides, diseased people everywhere, someone call a doctor!

lol

tedtwilliger wrote:

seriously, make a video of these fights or else you cant compare them.

These are too idealistic, what if the wariror goes to use a screen but hits the wrong key? what if he clicks the wrong target? what if the cleric goes to heal but hits offering instead?

dam theres so many variables in this game, you know the whole "human side" of the game and all. Theres no justice in arguing on paper because you aren't taking into account anything.

Not to forget lag :wink:

Agreed.

These discussions are quite entertaining, though.

Love · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 5336 **Location:**

things change by lvl that is your answer

Falcos8 · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 33 **Location:**

lionshout is like "come pvp me, i challenge u in a solo pvp" IF U DARE

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