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 Post subject: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:38 am 
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I have not been online in Silkroad for about 7 days...

Time constraints and failure to login have forbid me to play.

So I thought i'd stir something up and wrote to Inca about the use of their nProtect GameGuard by Joymax even if its just a fancy logo splash screen at the start of the game without any actual program running.

Hell it sure beat me wasting my 45 mins break from work trying to press connect as many times as possible. :banghead:

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I am writing in regards to the use of your product GameGuard by the company Joymax Inc.

First I would like you to understand a little bit of history about this company.

Joymax are the owners of an online mmorpg called Silkroad Online which has been running International servers for more than 2 years.

Joymax advertises that it incorporates Inca's GameGuard program for the security of SilkroadOnline. When you run the SilkroadOnline application the logo for nProtect Gameguard appears giving the user the impression that your company is protecting the game. However it is not actually running your program GameGuard.

Joymax have been using your company to falsely give the impression their game is safe for users to play. This is far from the truth as their website and their game have many security holes allowing hackers to infiltrate and steal peoples accounts.

In fact security issues with Joymax are so poorly dealt with that another website http://www.rev6.com publicly announced their concerns for Joymax customers warning that Joymax's security was so flawed you could simply gain access to another person account and change their password just by knowing a target person's account name! rev6 then stated if Joymax does not take action to fix their website they will release the security flaw publicly. Joymax ignored the threat and on the 27th November 2007 rev6 made public the security flaw.

27th November 2007, thousands upon thousands of accounts were hacked. It took Joymax a whole day to shutdown their website to stop the infiltration. Their website was so overrun with people hacking accounts that it would time out due to the workload.

However Joymax still to this day gives the impression their game is safe to play due to nProtect GameGuard. The truth is GameGuard is not even being used! They simply show the GameGuard logo every time the game SilkroadOnline is run falsely giving the impression your company is protecting their customers!

I have browsed Inca's website and I checked the companies that currently are licenced to use your product "nProctect GameGuard". I do not see Joymax Inc or SilkroadOnline in this list.

So I have some questions for your company.

Does Joymax Inc or SilkroadOnline have the rights to use your program nProtect GameGuard currently?

Are you aware that Joymax IS using your company as "pretend" security against hackers in the game SilkroadOnline?

How do you think the publicity for GameGuard is affected in a situation like this?

Will any action be taken in this situation with Joymax Inc?

My questions are directed at you not only for my sake but on behalf of the SilkroadOnline community (http://www.silkroadforums.com) who question why your company would allow this to happen. This letter and answers will be posted publicly for the perusal of all Silkroad Customers.

Thank you for your time, I look forward to your reply.

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Joymax Customer

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P.S. I hope i remember the date correctly for that security flaw lol

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:43 am 
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Sounds Great!!
Hopefully they will read it.
Good job^^ :P :P

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:46 am 
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im going to rofl if joymax gets sued

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:57 am 
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LivithiuM wrote:
In fact security issues with Joymax are so poorly dealt with that another website http://www.rev6.com publicly announced their concerns for Joymax customers warning that Joymax's security was so flawed you could simply gain access to another person account and change their password just by knowing a target person's account name! rev6 then stated if Joymax does not take action to fix their website they will release the security flaw publicly. Joymax ignored the threat and on the 27th November 2007 rev6 made public the security flaw.

27th November 2007, thousands upon thousands of accounts were hacked. It took Joymax a whole day to shutdown their website to stop the infiltration. Their website was so overrun with people hacking accounts that it would time out due to the workload.


Fixed, other than that it looks good. Although I doubt anything will be done.

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:12 am 
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LivithiuM wrote:
I have browsed Inca's website and I checked the companies that currently are licenced to use your product "nProctect GameGuard". I do not see Joymax Inc or SilkroadOnline in this list.

Yes, I saw this one time....their not listed anymore. They most likely stop paying the license fee because they want every cent they make.

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:27 am 
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I hope they actually read the e-mail and respond. It would be a nice late christmas present for joymax when they find a fat lawsuit on their desk.

Anyways, does Ksro use game gaurd? I forgot if other versions of sro use it still.

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
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The license holder doesn't have to be listed under Joymax. Could be a parent company or licensed to a CEO haha.

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hey when you get the reply post it :D:D

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:47 am 
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i would like to see them pwning joymax LOL

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Inuyasha584 wrote:
hey when you get the reply post it :D:D

+1. Would be an interesting read :).

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
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It's about time someone looked into this. I don't know why I didn't think of it a long time ago. Great job! :) I look forward to their response.

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:35 am 
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Good job, cause a shake up.

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:00 pm 
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I wish they would read this and sue JM..

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:02 pm 
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but why hasn't gameguard get the guts to sue, lol, they could for some big silk! i mean if they know, the would obivously win, i mean not like JM is gonna buy good lawyers, lol they use their office monkey as there lawyer lmfao

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PR0METHEUS wrote:
It's about time someone looked into this. I don't know why I didn't think of it a long time ago. Great job! :) I look forward to their response.


if they respond.....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:52 pm 
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woo a fellow redsea'ese thought of it :D

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
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We should send some complaints to the game guard company stating their product does not work etc etc and people on SRO are using shit loads of exploits blah blah blah might take more notice.

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Axeoo7 wrote:
We should send some complaints to the game guard company stating their product does not work etc etc and people on SRO are using shit loads of exploits blah blah blah might take more notice.


I already wrote a blah blah mail to game guard company. I was surprised, BlackFox send me reply. He wrote - stop this blah blah shits you weasel :x

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deep.in wrote:
Axeoo7 wrote:
We should send some complaints to the game guard company stating their product does not work etc etc and people on SRO are using shit loads of exploits blah blah blah might take more notice.


I already wrote a blah blah mail to game guard company. I was surprised, BlackFox send me reply. He wrote - stop this blah blah shits you weasel :x


rofl that actually made me laugh i hated that guy/girl but i miss his stupid idiotic replies.

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Gaige wrote:
but why hasn't gameguard get the guts to sue, lol, they could for some big silk! i mean if they know, the would obivously win, i mean not like JM is gonna buy good lawyers, lol they use their office monkey as there lawyer lmfao

ok i just have to point this out, thats something a 7 year old would find as funny,

and to the poster good luck and lets hope for a reply :)

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 Post subject: Re: nProtect GameGuard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:54 am 
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Joymax is gonna lose some silk... Joymax gonna lose some silk

Probably not but its nice to think about it :)

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:22 am 
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Why is it only Isro that has such a big problem? Ksro is so much better. Should move to korea just so I can play it lol.

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