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 Post subject: Re: Do botter haters also hate:
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 8:38 am 
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Factory machinery workers, Microsoft Office, cars?

Would you rather them hand make things in factories?

Would you rather have Word not have an automatic correct feature and you reread your papers over until it's perfect?

Walk a lot of miles rather drive to the destination?

Just a question, thanks.


Think of it this way, Silkroad is a game, rather than play the game themselves, botters have a bot do it for them. A bot is something people use to play the game for them, now:

Say that a car is a game, we drive (or "play") it ourselves, we don't have a program that drives it for us.

Microsoft word is a program we use to proof read our papers, we don't have the program write the whole paper for us, thus, it has no relevant meaning to the point you are trying to get across.

Factory machinery is equipment used to help us build cars that we designed, they don't design them for us, they are the "tool" we use to do a job that needs to be done, refer to my first statement about cars.


lolz YAY! and the bot just pop out of no where and just do everything for for botters? U ARE FUNNY!

NOW: man grow up guys! this can be serious. if you're serious about anti-botting then be serious! i bet most of you guys cant answer these questions(which he can make it better) right and in a manner way (other than flaming/stupid &^&#^$). We know that technology make life more and more convient, and the examples that he used were cars, micro office, and factories, all these things make our life easier. isnt that correct? well arent the bots are good convient tools for games? it is there to save u from killing yourself by sitting in front of the computers for hours, right? like car, saving you from walking for miles, like words, saving you time from errors correction etc, and like factories, saving you from putting every parts of a car or airplanes or many other things by your BARE HANDS! (anyway, computer itself is a tool for better and easy life)

now look, when you type an essay or write somethign really important for your class or what-so-ever, and you use the auto detect and correct error feature(gramma/spell check) from microsoft word, then you turn in the essay/letter and get high grade/credits, isnt that worse than a bot? didnt you just cheated?

if i can make a robot and let it sit at my computer and play 24/7, what would you say to that?

then there's cheating/hacking. bot does everything and only things that JM let you do! it doesnt fly to the spot, it doesnt go on GODMODE! you can kill the botter when you pvp, the botter doesnt have infinite hp, doesnt have 999999 dmage

gaming is for FUN! dont you all agree? if you think your way is fun to play, then do it, why should you care about other people way... just play the game, enjoy the game, and pwn the game! dont let the game play you!


dragonkiller, you made a great topic for us all to discuss! and actually, this is one of the best topic to discuss in this "general sro discussion board".

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Factory machinery workers


Nope they are just doing their job. I mean like actually doing it.

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, Microsoft Office


Just clippy and binary format lock in with forced obsolesence.

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, cars?


Only when I am low on gas and need to refill.

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Would you rather them hand make things in factories?


Sometimes yes. And sometimes they do.

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Would you rather have Word not have an automatic correct feature and you reread your papers over until it's perfect?


Yes because if you rely on them while your spelling "might" be correct it screws up grammar. Try feeding it here and hear and see which one it tells you is misspelled. XD

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Walk a lot of miles rather drive to the destination?

depends on distance etc. But sometimes yeah. Good exercise.

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Sinny, do you happen to be an ignoramus? Just curious. :)


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xD i just happen to be the one that love to debate in a fine manner, especially the serious topics and this topic is very serious to SRO, actually to all games, it is also fun (also will help me on my english class on writing essays)

i'm NOT saying that everyone should bot, i'm just putting out facts that how us, as human being, need things, build things, and use things that help our life somehow, like cars/planes for traveling, machines in factories(these stuff are consider bots if you examine it carefully), micro office for spelling/grammar correction.... and bot for saving time sitting on computer grinding your @ss off, which can cause lots of health problem if you grind all day and everyday. dont you think it is very hypocritism to say no and hate bots, but love the machines that make many things for you?

now talking about ignoramus- if you look again at all these posts, you might find many of them, but me, probably, the last to be consider ignorant or in this case ignoramus. i took this matter seriously,look at it in a manner way, and willing to discuss it openly with anyone who is willing to. did i say "NO! BOT ARE GAY!" or "YES! BOT IS THE BEST!" -of course i did not, i show and stated my opion, then i back it up. think again and see who is the "ignoramus" xD.

ping_lo what are u tryign to say?

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lol. It's funny how you compare. There's difference between the need and the want. The wrong and the right.

To bot in this game is illegitimate. To use this computer I'm using, which is a machine, isn't illegitimate. Get it? What you're saying is like saying, everyone should be allowed to use a real firearm, because people are allowed to handle toy guns.

What's the difference between your computer or the bot program for Silkroad Online? One isn't illegitimate and the other is illegitimate. The 'legitimate" part is the biggest key to set these things apart.

I truly think you're still an ignoramus. But, after this I'm hoping I've enlighten you.


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sinny wrote:
Tokughavita wrote:
dragonKiller wrote:
Factory machinery workers, Microsoft Office, cars?

Would you rather them hand make things in factories?

Would you rather have Word not have an automatic correct feature and you reread your papers over until it's perfect?

Walk a lot of miles rather drive to the destination?

Just a question, thanks.


Think of it this way, Silkroad is a game, rather than play the game themselves, botters have a bot do it for them. A bot is something people use to play the game for them, now:

Say that a car is a game, we drive (or "play") it ourselves, we don't have a program that drives it for us.

Microsoft word is a program we use to proof read our papers, we don't have the program write the whole paper for us, thus, it has no relevant meaning to the point you are trying to get across.

Factory machinery is equipment used to help us build cars that we designed, they don't design them for us, they are the "tool" we use to do a job that needs to be done, refer to my first statement about cars.


lolz YAY! and the bot just pop out of no where and just do everything for for botters? U ARE FUNNY!

NOW: man grow up guys! this can be serious. if you're serious about anti-botting then be serious! i bet most of you guys cant answer these questions(which he can make it better) right and in a manner way (other than flaming/stupid &^&#^$). We know that technology make life more and more convient, and the examples that he used were cars, micro office, and factories, all these things make our life easier. isnt that correct? well arent the bots are good convient tools for games? it is there to save u from killing yourself by sitting in front of the computers for hours, right? like car, saving you from walking for miles, like words, saving you time from errors correction etc, and like factories, saving you from putting every parts of a car or airplanes or many other things by your BARE HANDS! (anyway, computer itself is a tool for better and easy life)

now look, when you type an essay or write somethign really important for your class or what-so-ever, and you use the auto detect and correct error feature(gramma/spell check) from microsoft word, then you turn in the essay/letter and get high grade/credits, isnt that worse than a bot? didnt you just cheated?

if i can make a robot and let it sit at my computer and play 24/7, what would you say to that?

then there's cheating/hacking. bot does everything and only things that JM let you do! it doesnt fly to the spot, it doesnt go on GODMODE! you can kill the botter when you pvp, the botter doesnt have infinite hp, doesnt have 999999 dmage

gaming is for FUN! dont you all agree? if you think your way is fun to play, then do it, why should you care about other people way... just play the game, enjoy the game, and pwn the game! dont let the game play you!


dragonkiller, you made a great topic for us all to discuss! and actually, this is one of the best topic to discuss in this "general sro discussion board".


I'm glad someone has vision of my indirect and passive points.

Another point I got across was that this forum is full of people waiting to jump on people for being stupid. They don't try to look outside the box and with an open mind try to see what a person is actually trying to talk about.

I'm saying what if a tool that helped you was illegal? Guns are illegal in most states but that doesn't mean the United States goes out of the country to use guns on different countries. They actually DO! A lot of people do things to get around the system, so why do YOU BOTTER HATERS hate them so much? You might as well hate on the United States for their first acts of terrorism. So my point is either hate on botters for a good reason other than being illegal in the game because there is no solution, so why hate? Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it happens, why continue to rant on hating bots? If it was serious you wouldn't post on here about it, you'd constantly be writing professional letters to the company overseas if it was THAT SERIOUS. It obviously isn't to the remarks of most on this forum. In conclusion botting isn't that serious to me because there is not much I can do to fix the problem and I'm not SERIOUS enough about it to send professional business letter to the company. Come on people get real.

edit: You're hating on a tool that helps people, from my point of view, yet you do nothing SERIOUS to your SERIOUS hate for it. I don't hate bots, I'm patient and wait for JM to ban them.

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lots of dumb stuff


even more dumb stuff


I didn't think the level of stupid in this thread could get any higher and you broke the dumbass meter. GG


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dragonKiller wrote:
Factory machinery workers, Microsoft Office, cars?

Would you rather them hand make things in factories?

Would you rather have Word not have an automatic correct feature and you reread your papers over until it's perfect?

Walk a lot of miles rather drive to the destination?

Just a question, thanks.


The whole point of a factory is to mass produce things, so why would we hate them for being in operation?

Word's auto-correct feature is annoying for me. Usually it's wrong when I use it, but sometimes it's right. I usually either cancel it's auto correct, or turn the feature off completely.

Walking is just not practical for long distances. Too many factors in life depend on you getting to a destination more quickly, like life/death emergencies, getting to work on time so you don't get fired, getting to your daughter's ballet recital that you've been missing for the past year because you always want to walk there and you don't want her to hate you for the rest of her life...

In SRO, the point isn't to race to cap and abuse the system by sitting on a horse all day, or letting a computer program (bot) run to gain your exp. You're comparing apples and oranges here.

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lots of dumb stuff


even more dumb stuff


I didn't think the level of stupid in this thread could get any higher and you broke the dumbass meter. GG

LMAO, dumbass meter FTW :oops: Why didn't I think of that :P

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Dude do all of you pick on people because you are all nerdy in real life and get picked on all the time by real people so you have to take it out on someone so you come to your regular forums and let it all out here?

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Dude do all of you pick on people because you are all nerdy in real life and get picked on all the time by real people so you have to take it out on someone so you come to your regular forums and let it all out here?


Nah. I just have very little tolerance for stupidity. Newbs I can handle. Idiots, not so much. It's a character flaw, I admit. Still working on it but until it gets fixed...you're a moron.

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Wtf did I do but try to point things out in my own way?

You don't see me talking sh*t to people for trying to discuss something, you got f*ing problems. Did you hand grind too much SP?

Let me ask you what you do as a profession in real life? Besides hand grind and play this game.

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Let me ask you what you do as a profession in real life? Besides hand grind and play this game.


I'm an attorney. You?


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Let me ask you what you do as a profession in real life? Besides hand grind and play this game.


I'm an attorney. You?

Well damn you whooped mebut why are you on these forums if you' re an important person? Aren't you married?

I'm just a college student.

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Well damn you whooped but why are you on these forums if you're an important person.


lol. Not important. I just get to control my time and this is what I do between tasks.


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Well damn you whooped but why are you on these forums if you're an important person.


lol. Not important. I just get to control my time and this is what I do between tasks.


Well did you really think I was serious about the first post? Have you read all the posts? Where am I being an idiot besides joking about my analogies. What am I doing wrong? What the F* did I do to deserve people talking sh*t to me?

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Where am I being an idiot besides joking about my analogies.


Here's the thing: the analogies are very poor. Your premise seems to be that legits hate botters because they've found a more "convenient" way of playing the game. It's not the convenience legits hate, its the cheating. Here's a better analogy: why just earn a salary when you can embezzle?

Because your analogies are so poor, it sounds like you are defending bots. It sounds like one of the myriad rationalizations for why botting is acceptable. I don't buy it. Botting is cheating. Botting is selfish. Botting has ruined SRO.

I can't imagine a legit making the statements you made. Its just not conceivable to me. So I assume you're a closet botter. At the very least, you are a bot defender. I don't like people who defend bots. Most of the people posting here agree. Hence the flames.

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Where am I being an idiot besides joking about my analogies.


Here's the thing: the analogies are very poor. Your premise seems to be that legits hate botters because they've found a more "convenient" way of playing the game. It's not the convenience legits hate, its the cheating. Here's a better analogy: why just earn a salary when you can embezzle?

Because your analogies are so poor, it sounds like you are defending bots. It sounds like one of the myriad rationalizations for why botting is acceptable. I don't buy it. Botting is cheating. Botting is selfish. Botting has ruined SRO.

I can't imagine a legit making the statements you made. Its just not conceivable to me. So I assume you're a closet botter. At the very least, you are a bot defender. I don't like people who defend bots. Most of the people posting here agree. Hence the flames.

Make sense now?


I understand but I'm not defending bots. I'm merely just pointing out for people to get over it.

The general comparison was life to SRO, most people don't understand that life is more important and a lot of people are making a big deal out of a fun game. Blah blah you can't have fun because there are too many botters around well poor people can't get rich in real life because the government lets them stay in that environment.

Not to mention the 13 billion a month spent by the US Government for the war.

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Not to mention the 13 billion a month spent by the US Government for the war.


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Not to mention the 13 billion a month spent by the US Government for the war.


/slowly backs out of thread and closes door softly...



He's a college student? He prolly goes to YouTubeU.... :D

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lol. It's funny how you compare. There's difference between the need and the want. The wrong and the right.

To bot in this game is illegitimate. To use this computer I'm using, which is a machine, isn't illegitimate. Get it? What you're saying is like saying, everyone should be allowed to use a real firearm, because people are allowed to handle toy guns.

What's the difference between your computer or the bot program for Silkroad Online? One isn't illegitimate and the other is illegitimate. The 'legitimate" part is the biggest key to set these things apart.

I truly think you're still an ignoramus. But, after this I'm hoping I've enlighten you.


okay now u're going way out, first of all, your assumption is totally wrong, i didnt say anything about gun, because when you compare guns to bots, they are totally different, guns can harm people for sure, but bot doesnt, in fact, it does the opposite, (guns are allowed to have in US anyway) how are the real firearms and toy guns relate to using a computer and bot? computer = toy guns and bot = real guns? then about being legitimate, i know what you mean by saying computer is legal and bot is not, but also like i said, the bot does everything and only things that JM let us do in game, it does only the legit stuff. do you really really want people to sit at their desk and press button and clicking all the time? how does that effect you? or is it because the botters get way too far for you to catch up? you can always play 24/7, and obviously human playing are smarter than bots, so you can always do that if you wish to. again, play the game, dont let the game play you! well again, it seem like u're being the ignoramus here lolz, i bet you dont reall get the meaning of the word, and you even know who is considered ignoramus, because if you, you would have totally different thoughts in your mind right now.

non ego man <- i dont think you understand, in fact, you're clueless and useless in this thread, you have no use in here, so please, begone, be somewhere where you can be a little more productive, useful... if you want to maturely discuss this topic then please be mature and show us your opinion and why... that's all i'm asking...

ps by the way zing, ignoramus should best fit -> non ego man, i'm sure you can use this word on him then go ask people around and most of them will say u're right, and people will also think that you really understand the word and can distinguish who is ignoramus and who is not! your argument didnt enlighten me at all, actually, a little disappointed, i was looking and expecting for something stronger and harder.

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sinny wrote:
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Factory machinery workers, Microsoft Office, cars?

Would you rather them hand make things in factories?

Would you rather have Word not have an automatic correct feature and you reread your papers over until it's perfect?

Walk a lot of miles rather drive to the destination?

Just a question, thanks.


Think of it this way, Silkroad is a game, rather than play the game themselves, botters have a bot do it for them. A bot is something people use to play the game for them, now:

Say that a car is a game, we drive (or "play") it ourselves, we don't have a program that drives it for us.

Microsoft word is a program we use to proof read our papers, we don't have the program write the whole paper for us, thus, it has no relevant meaning to the point you are trying to get across.

Factory machinery is equipment used to help us build cars that we designed, they don't design them for us, they are the "tool" we use to do a job that needs to be done, refer to my first statement about cars.


lolz YAY! and the bot just pop out of no where and just do everything for for botters? U ARE FUNNY!

NOW: man grow up guys! this can be serious. if you're serious about anti-botting then be serious! i bet most of you guys cant answer these questions(which he can make it better) right and in a manner way (other than flaming/stupid &^&#^$). We know that technology make life more and more convient, and the examples that he used were cars, micro office, and factories, all these things make our life easier. isnt that correct? well arent the bots are good convient tools for games? it is there to save u from killing yourself by sitting in front of the computers for hours, right? like car, saving you from walking for miles, like words, saving you time from errors correction etc, and like factories, saving you from putting every parts of a car or airplanes or many other things by your BARE HANDS! (anyway, computer itself is a tool for better and easy life)

now look, when you type an essay or write somethign really important for your class or what-so-ever, and you use the auto detect and correct error feature(gramma/spell check) from microsoft word, then you turn in the essay/letter and get high grade/credits, isnt that worse than a bot? didnt you just cheated?

if i can make a robot and let it sit at my computer and play 24/7, what would you say to that?

then there's cheating/hacking. bot does everything and only things that JM let you do! it doesnt fly to the spot, it doesnt go on GODMODE! you can kill the botter when you pvp, the botter doesnt have infinite hp, doesnt have 999999 dmage

gaming is for FUN! dont you all agree? if you think your way is fun to play, then do it, why should you care about other people way... just play the game, enjoy the game, and pwn the game! dont let the game play you!


dragonkiller, you made a great topic for us all to discuss! and actually, this is one of the best topic to discuss in this "general sro discussion board".



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This thread is made of terrible arguments.

Bottom line is this.

SRO is a game with rules. If you break this rules, you deserve a slap in the face with a ban hammer. In life we have machines which help us to do what we want and need. If these machines are legal than everything is fine. If one of these machines is illegal that it shouldnt be used.

We have laws and we are meant to live by the. As soon as you break the law just for your own self gain and laziness than your actions are unjustified and you deserve a slap in the face with a relevant object.


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This thread is full of idiot bot supporters. May I request a SG to lay the smackdown on the newb bot supporters?

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 Post subject: Re: Do botter haters also hate:
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i actually do hate cars, i've been hit by three of them. Twice, they were parked and not moving.... the third time it was, and i ended up in the hospital go figure.

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 Post subject: Re: Do botter haters also hate:
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sinny wrote:
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lol. It's funny how you compare. There's difference between the need and the want. The wrong and the right.

To bot in this game is illegitimate. To use this computer I'm using, which is a machine, isn't illegitimate. Get it? What you're saying is like saying, everyone should be allowed to use a real firearm, because people are allowed to handle toy guns.

What's the difference between your computer or the bot program for Silkroad Online? One isn't illegitimate and the other is illegitimate. The 'legitimate" part is the biggest key to set these things apart.

I truly think you're still an ignoramus. But, after this I'm hoping I've enlighten you.


okay now u're going way out, first of all, your assumption is totally wrong, i didnt say anything about gun, because when you compare guns to bots, they are totally different, guns can harm people for sure, but bot doesnt, in fact, it does the opposite, (guns are allowed to have in US anyway) how are the real firearms and toy guns relate to using a computer and bot? computer = toy guns and bot = real guns? then about being legitimate, i know what you mean by saying computer is legal and bot is not, but also like i said, the bot does everything and only things that JM let us do in game, it does only the legit stuff. do you really really want people to sit at their desk and press button and clicking all the time? how does that effect you? or is it because the botters get way too far for you to catch up? you can always play 24/7, and obviously human playing are smarter than bots, so you can always do that if you wish to. again, play the game, dont let the game play you! well again, it seem like u're being the ignoramus here lolz, i bet you dont reall get the meaning of the word, and you even know who is considered ignoramus, because if you, you would have totally different thoughts in your mind right now.

non ego man <- i dont think you understand, in fact, you're clueless and useless in this thread, you have no use in here, so please, begone, be somewhere where you can be a little more productive, useful... if you want to maturely discuss this topic then please be mature and show us your opinion and why... that's all i'm asking...

ps by the way zing, ignoramus should best fit -> non ego man, i'm sure you can use this word on him then go ask people around and most of them will say u're right, and people will also think that you really understand the word and can distinguish who is ignoramus and who is not! your argument didnt enlighten me at all, actually, a little disappointed, i was looking and expecting for something stronger and harder.


You seem to be deliberately going out of your way to ignore the obvious. Botting is against the rules. Nuclear's analogy was the most apt because it really is on the same level as botting and SRO.

We are playing a game, a game with rules that are designed to prevent cheating. When you play a sport, certain things are illegal for fairness. The use of steroids for example. Why are they illegal? I mean SOME ppl still use them, right? Because in any contest, the rules are the parameters to determine who succeeds. You dont enter a marathon with a motorcycle and anyone would consider that silly.

Anyone who argues for the use of bots in SRO is just as silly.

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 Post subject: Re: Do botter haters also hate:
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