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haha people people, u guys dont get it at all, and do not read much eh? first of all, me, and probably dragonkiller, DO NOT SUPPORT BOT! I did not say yes to bot, i did not say we all should use bot, if you actually read, you would have understand, what i want to say is, bot is another tool to make life better, if you dont use it, then it is your choice, other people use it, then it is their choice. the question, and problem, for this issue here is, WHY DO YOU HATE THE BOTTERS? why do you hate the botters when they just simply use a tool to make their life easier? when talkin about steroid for sport, it is another different thing, the drugs power you up when you use it, but when you play the game, does the bot power your char up and make it stronger? i said it earlier, bot doesn't harm any player in the game, it doesnt give more hp, dmage or whatsoever. well the steroid for sport people sound like cash items for sro but in a LEGAL WAY which is worse dont you think? if you hate botters why not those who bought the cash items? and if you need to me explain why steroid and cash items are related, please say so.

anyway i do know that bot is against the rules, and of course, i do not want to make any change to the rule. i'm not talking to SRO GM or anythign right now and trying to tell them that bot is fine. i'm talking to players who play the games, and for some reasons, these players hate botters so much for something that they SHOULDN'T care about. is it simply because JM says it is illegal? lolz

Tokughavita <- WOOT! you got it right, maybe you need someone, like me, who education level is above 10th grade, to criticize your words.

"get GS to smackdown newb bot supporters?" i didnt even care to look at this guy name, is he like some middle schooler? or he just happen to have a not so up to normal level brain?

THIS TOPIC IS VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE, it is NOT USELESS/POINTLESS, we all have strong opinions about botting, then something like this should be the opposite of useless. if you still think it is useless, instead of saying it is just useless, give us the reason why it is useless. or else i can just ask zing to use that word "ignoramus" on YOU! xD

are you serious??????

lol, well i guess if you cant answer the question yourself.....then, sorry i cant help you

and my answer is no lol

i love others doing what i have to do myself..^^

i see were you get all this, you like bots, and you probably have thought of using bots, i have too, many have but the only problem about bots is the number of bots, if the game had some, a few, 20 or 50 then this would fall into your category of misunderstanding.

Also bots are very much like steroids, you use then to cheat your way to greater lengths, something that you could not ACCOMPLISH YOURSELF.
So, one could not physically stay up 24/7 and play the damn game, no one can , well you could...but some people that have have died..look it up...
ALSO, MAKES LIFE EASIER.....hummmmm, if I wanted to make life easier i would just quit....so my guess you are addicted to the game so much you deside to download a bot to play the damn game and make YOUR life easier, im not saying you do, but the only people that really bot are people that want to make money and people that are addicted to the game and cant really stop plying the game , have no life them selfs ......how the addict now??????people that quit or people how bot or people that actually play the game how its suppose to be played and fit it into their schedule????

One very last thing....item mall is just a way for the company to have some kind of revenue, added for the game and in no way cheating, sport dont add steroid as one of their option??well some do ,, but only to those then its okay....

might have gone a little out of topic but i understand...




people still dont understand computer ethics.....somehow they dont exist in the WWW

Using a bot DOES power you up, it gives you stamina to play for a length of time you cannot do on your own.

It is like running a marathon with someone who secretly rides a bicycle when no one is looking. SRO is a grind based game where being able to play for a long time is what makes you stronger than the other guy. Botters have forgotten that.

Quetzalcoatl <- i like how you show your opinion, but it is still too weak for me make agree,

1. i do not care about botters, that doesnt mean i like bots, and yes i would use bot if it is free and i dont get ban. then i dont get your 2nd part "many have but the only problem about bots is the number of bots, if the game had some, a few, 20 or 50 then this would fall into your category of misunderstanding."

2. if you gonna put it that way, then when you drive a car, you've cheated because u just did something you could not accomplish yourself, when you use the factory machines or the micro office word, you've cheated yourself.

3. you think playing sro is a hardship of your life? cuz it sound like it when you said this "if I wanted to make life easier i would just quit" and of course, you got all this messed up, are the botters are the ones who have more time for their real life? those who sitting on their butt and grind all days have less time for their real life, am i wrong? lolz this is your biggest downside, your weakest part argument, which i guess it suppose to be your strongest? maybe they are addicted, but they definitely have a better life!

4. another weak argument because you do not know why steroid and cash items are related in my statement, what does steroid do? it power one's strength and win competitions, what does cash items do? it give those who use more powers hp,mp,dmag etc, and which mostly like to win a duel against a same player without the cash items. though, steroid are illegal while cash items are legal. bot doesn't make u stronger than your opponent in pvp if you and your opponent maxed out with the best gears.

i dont want to 2x post so i gotta edit:

nightbloom <- it is not about the person who's botting compare/contrast with the steroid user, it is about the steroid users compare/contrast to the char that you have in the game, when we play the game, do we compete to see how long a person can sit and play? no, we compete to see who win the duel!! maybe the botters can level faster and be stronger for a bit, but then u will be there too right? u will get to the max level right? most of the strongest players in the game, are they botters? when you said this, you are saying that all the strongest players in the game are botters!! which is totally false!

Sinny, it's a game, and every game has rules to keep fairness. Botting destroys fairness and countless other things as well.

Can't you see that? It's been said so many times. If you still see it as botting in Silkroad as a car driving to get to somewhere, then you are truly ignorant as ever can be. A car is a tool which people use in life to get around. It's not cheating when you drive to Mcdonald's in a car to get food. Though, it is cheating when you take a car into a bicycle's race. Why? Because the bicycle race is a game and it has rules. And those rules forbid cars to be used in the race.

By botting you can grind longer, which means more gold, which means better gears, which gives you an advantage in pvp. So i guess it is like steroids.

You also said something interesting which i will use against you



Lets use the steroid analogy again. If steroids were free and you didn't get punished for using them, would you still do it? Even if you dont get caught does it make your acts justified? no! Its still unfair. In no way does not getting caught justify the action.

And this brings me into my most important part of that quote. You simply said "if you dont get banned". You can not create a hypothetical situation where ruels dont exist to justify somethings use.

are the cash items that give +hp+damge+mp +exp and many other things fair to you zing?

i get what you said about the cars, but i used it to show that guy that we use things to accomplish what we cannot accomplish ourselves, when use the example of car goign into a bike race, your analogy is incorrect, why? same thing like nightbloom, we do not compete to see who sit and play the longest, we compete to see who win the duel, are car is obvious too superior to the bike in a race, but does a bot do anything when you pvp? does it make you move fast/cast faster than other players like the cars to the bike?



again guys, i'm just saying that you guys should not be bother by the botters because it do you no harm! the botters do not affect you!


ted<- i didnt say anything about free steroid etc... but i bet many would use, now ask yourself ted, would you and many many other players that are not using bot right now, use bot if it will not get you ban? i know i would, and of course many others would. i did NOT use this as an argument, i was just simply answering the other guy's question, it has nothing to do with the whole topic thing, he said that i might of thinking about using the bot, and i answered yes i would if it doesnt get me banned. what does that has to do with rules and stuff you said? you picked on this to prove what?

Sinny, I'll break it down for you.

Silkroad Online's rules forbid using the bot program.
The bot program is a tool used to hasten the progress of gaining levels and/or achievements.
The idea of not doing things yourself in a competitive game is immoral.

The Olympic games forbid the use of steroids.
Steroids is an injection that provides your body more testosterone to gain achievements at a faster rate.
The idea of using steroids to enhance your training to get results faster is immoral in competitive sports, such as the Olympic games.


--- Sinny, the bot does harm. It's already turned the game Silkroad Online into the craphole it is. People want fairness. People want to see people work to get their levels. It's a competitive game. Whoever puts their time and efforts into certain achievements deserve them. Taking shortcuts does not give you the deserving achievements.



If they're apart of the game, created by the developers and allowed through the rules, they are allowed.

Botters steal my grinding spaces while doing no physical work themselves, they grind 24/7 even once their capped meaning they get more gold than i do and they inflate the economy as a result. Now please explain how this things which i proved to be affecting me, doesn't affect me?

Of course they are fair, because they are legal and part of the game. In skiing and racing, the more money you can spend on your legal equipment could mean you win the game. That is just how it goes. But that doesnt mean you must cheat.

In the race of SRO, the referee isnt here. He does some random testing for steroids, but we pretty much gotta catch ppl ourselves to try and keep the game somewhat fair.

Botters dont like it.

On Venus they whine and complain that we are ruining the game for them. We like that. We have bot trapped the gold farmers so much that the ppl running them come to complain. We like that too.

The fact that you are complaining here makes me happy. It shows that we are making an impact.

well, i guess what i was trying to say is how you dont understand fairness....
the reason i hate bots is about fairness....Silkroad is a game that has rules. as with all the games, so compare silkroad to Baseball or Futbol, its makes more sense that way. at least i think so

one more thing....its cheating so....have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating



one more time so he can see it...

That's my analogy. Nuclear silo stop stealing my words.

Anyway, on topic, the difference between real-life technology automating processes and the automation of a game to make things easier, is that the game isn't meant to be made easier. It was made the way it was with rules in place for it to be fair and fun for all. Forcing people to manually spell check, walk everywhere and build cars by hand doesn't make things fun or fair, it's just stupid.

talking about fairness, is life fair to everyone? is sro fair to everyone? of course no! those who have money, they can get cash items!!! which they have hella advantages over those who dont, there are people with more than 1 computers and there are people who has just 1 computer (one can log in more), there are people who has hella fast computers and there are people who has super slow computer... (lag can cause one to lose a duel).....


alright...well i didnt get you guys to stop hating the botters, which i think it is very stupid to let those people/botters affect you, but at least i got some people to actually do what they should do in a discussion, like zing and some others, they did what i wanted everyone to do, which was stating your statements and back it up. not just some useless sentences like some kids would spit out.

anyway, me going against the forum is not easy, and i wish not to spend too much time on this now, just remember, i didnt say anything about we should bot or allow bot, all i want you guys to do is not letting the botters make you feel angry etc. because we are human being and we want things to be easy for ourselves, it is human nature, that's why factory machines are built, micro office were created, and cars are made.... you do not need to bot, you dont have to bot, but other people do... just accept it, there always will be those who bots, just hope that there will be no godmode hack xD

see you guys, and thanks!

I can feel the nerd rage flowing through this thread

Well on the topic of "the game is unfair for poor people who can't afford silk or a good computer", here is what I have to say:

I don't buy silk on a regular basis (I've bought it a total of 2 times since I started playing in beta) and I play on a computer which is over 6 years old which I bought at a grocery store. I don't see item mall items or über computers as being so unfair that they can be compared to bots. I recognise that some people have parted with their hard earned cash in order to add a little something to their gaming experience without harming anyone else's in the process. They earned their money, and I am fine with it. (unless of course they CCF'd silk or stole a computer :x ) Bots however, do harm other people's gaming experience. Take a look on these forums or in game and you will know what I am talking about. They are breaking a rule which is in place to keep the game fair. Even if the game or life isn't totally fair, does that warrant breaking the rules and making the situation worse?

Botting in SRO is cheating.

Why is it so hard to understand?
Nobody wants to play games with cheaters.

If you are playing soccer and someone just picks up the ball and carries it up to the goal and throws it in, it doesn't count as a goal. It's against the rules of the game. They don't just say "oh well, who cares if he cheats? 1 point! Let the game continue!"

Why are so many people against players who want to play a game by the rules?

No rules = no game.
No game = no fun.


Buying gold in SRO is cheating.

"I don't bot, so why do you care so much if I buy gold?"
You are not isolated in your own instance of SRO... everyone on the server suffers from the crappy economy that results from people buying gold. Hell, why doesn't the government just print trillions of dollars and shovel them into the streets? Honestly, I think most younger people playing SRO really don't understand how dumping enormous amounts of currency into a closed economy affects it.

So maybe I'll just bring up a reason they can understand... GOLDBOTS.

Goldbots = server is full = can't log in without premium. And honestly, some of the best people I've met on SRO do not have the resources to buy the ability to log in. I hate the fact that people who buy gold keep these valued members of the community from being able to play. If nobody bought gold the servers would rarely be full.

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To all you gold buyers... you do more of a disservice to the SRO community than botters. Seriously. Please stop.
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